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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-02-08 08:19 PM
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I Will No Longer Advocate Hillary for Obama's VP If She Continues This Nonsense After Tuesday. Updated at 6:50 PM

Hillary Clinton's eleven straight losses (more than Mike Huckabee!) has not been enough to dampen her and Mark Penn's endless and losing campaign. Whether it is ambition, whether it is a sense of entitlement, whether it is for some other reason, it no longer matters to me: Hillary is hurting the Democratic Party and her campaign has become a very petty and nasty one and she's about to lose me for good.

I've been one of the very few Obama supporters who has consistently advocated that Hillary be his Vice President. However, if she continues this nonsense after Tuesday and continues to help John McCain gang up on Barack Obama, I will then be convinced that she would only be a destructive force on Barack's ticket this fall and that he would be better off choosing someone else.

I am certain that even the Super Delegates will begin to peel away from her after Tuesday regardless of what happens. If she can not face the music and wants to continue in her spiral to the bottom, then so be it.

We will learn everything we ever need to know about Hillary Clinton on Wednesday of this week.

David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed May-14-08 11:35 AM
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Barack Obama Needs Hillary as VP Like a Fish Needs a Bicycle. Updated at 6:50 PM

My daughter worked her way through college, played by all the rules, took her degree and today oversees nearly $2 Billion for a large organization in the midwest. Her husband did not help her with getting her job or attend her job interview. She is also a great wife and mother to my grand-daughter. In her spare time, she is active in her church and is acting as the general contractor overseeing the construction of her new home. Why do I mention this?

Our country is simply overflowing with talented, untapped women who could walk into the White House this afternoon and turn this country around, put it on the right track by 6PM and then still have time enjoy their families and life itself. Moreover, the Democratic Party is rich with talented women, brilliant women, bold and innovative women, seasoned and experienced women any of whom could stand at the side of Senator Obama, strengthen his ticket and chew up John McCain at election time.

It is absurd to entertain even for a single moment that Hillary Clinton could be the only woman to be considered to be Obama's Vice President. And it is insulting.

Having said that, I must say that I believe that Barack Obama should choose a woman to be his Vice President. I have for decades suggested that since every state has two U.S. Senators that one should be for men and the other women. The population is 50/50 anyway so it's really a no-brainer. I really believe it should be the law of the land. 100 Senators with 50 Women and 50 Men. If I could wave a wand today, I'd etch it right into the Constitution. And I think that the same should apply to the Executive Branch for Republicans and Democrats alike. If the Party nominates a woman or a man to be at the top of the ticket, then by golly, the reciprocal should be in the VP position. Period. There's no rationalization that can be made against that argument. In a nation of 300 million citizens, it is outrageous that women are not by mandate and yes by quota (I did use that word) hold 50% of the Senate and share one of the two top positions in the Executive Branch.

Barack Obama should prove he is really for change and demonstrate to the entire world that American women are as valued and respected as much as men. Change does not shut out women. I will be very unhappy if Obama should pick another man to be his VP. I've suggested Senator Barbara Boxer as my favorite pick for a very long time, but the truth is that Barack has an incredibly viable pool of other choices beyond Senator Boxer. Even Senator Dianne Feinstein, with whom I have my differences, would make an outstanding Vice President.

I was happy to see that NARAL endorsed Senator Obama today. It only proves yet again that women are no more monolithic than any other group of Americans.

Finally, with all of the superbly talented and experience women in the U.S.A. and within the Democratic Party, Senator Obama should have no problem whatsoever in selecting his running mate. He is not limited to only Hillary Clinton in making that choice. That somehow Hillary is the only choice is an insulting suggestion. Senator Obama, if you can't find someone, contact me because my daughter might be able to squeeze it into her schedule.