Reply #15: Julie, I believe you're missing the point. [View All]

Just think First Lieutenant Ehren Watada.

From Wikipedia:

"First Lieutenant Ehren Watada refused to deploy to Iraq for his unit's assigned rotation to Operation Iraqi Freedom.<1><2> Watada said he believed the war to be illegal and that, under the doctrine of command responsibility, it would make him party to war crimes. At the time, he was assigned to duty with the 5th Battalion, 20th Infantry Regiment, part of the 3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division, as a Fire Support Officer. Watada was the first commissioned officer in the U.S. armed forces to refuse to deploy to Iraq.<3>"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ehren_Watada

It's about not obeying orders known to be illegal or unconstitutional.

I think everyone who has read about these oathkeepers immediately think "freepers." And I suppose some or many of them are. But their 10 points are quite valid in light of Germany in the thirties and the U.S. in the last 40 years.

It's not about Obama. It's about the Patriot Acts I and II. It's about the Military Commissions Act.