Reply #26: Actually, you're both woefully wrong. [View All]

I really don't think you're worthy of a reply, but I'll do it anyway.

I hate to break it to you, but liberals and progressives aren't the base of the party. At least no more than the moderate and conservative voters in many areas throughout this nation.

What's silly is this belief that the liberals are bolting the party because of Pres. Obama. FUCKING PROVE IT. You can't. All evidence points to Pres. Obama polling his best among liberal and progressive voters. That's a fact. Check Gallup and ABC and every other goddamn approval poll out there.

See, the facts don't jive with your baseless argument.

You know why Pres. Obama's approval ratings have slipped and Democrats are hurting? Because a good many of Americans think the Democratic Party has moved too far to the left! I know that's hard to believe because you've all flanked yourself even further left than those who call themselves liberals, but it's reality. A plurality disapprove of the healthcare bill because they think it's too liberal. Not too conservative or because they perceive it to be a corporate giveaway.

Again, the facts.

Liberals aren't voting for Scott Brown because Pres. Obama is too conservative. That notion might be the most pathetically asinine thing I've heard here!

It's the conservative Democrats. The Democrats who backed Reagan and voted Romney for governor, who are backing Brown now because they think Washington has gone too far to the left.

Now you can sit there and bitch and complain about Pres. Obama not being progressive enough or not liberal enough and you'll just be pissing in the wind. You know what will happen? The Democratic Party will lose to Republicans. They will lose to Republicans similarly to how Republicans lost to Democrats a few years ago. They'll look more moderate (Brown is running as a moderate against the leftist extremism of Washington) and they'll gain power that way.

That's the path we're heading down if people refuse to look at the facts. Get off this bullshit that the Democratic Party is losing because it's not liberal enough. It's losing not because the liberals aren't voting or supporting Pres. Obama (polls suggest they are at a higher rate than conservative Democrats), it's losing because the perception at this point is that Pres. Obama and congress is extremely liberal. Whether that is right doesn't matter - it's the perception.

And as we've seen throughout the history of this country, generally Americans pull back when they think one party is too liberal or conservative. We saw it in 2006 and we're seeing it now.