Reply #3: What Obama does or doesn't do doesn't really matter... [View All]

Wow that was a "d" loaded reply! :)

The purpose of the primary challenge might not even be that we "change" Obama, but to make sure that progressives have a bully pulpit to put forth our values, since no one else on the national stage seems able or wiling to do it, and we have a corporate media that is set up to make sure that these values also get kept from us too.

Obama's taking advantage of this and either being forced, or as someone who used us, willingly is taking the right side of the fence and trying to make it look like "the center".

Even if this person doesn't win... Even if he/she doesn't change Obama's public stances, etc. They still will be able to put forth our messages. Which will be important at the congressional race level to help newer challengers echo those sentiments and serve as a rallying cry to change congress to one we haven't seen in ages to get rid of both wingnut Republicans and worthless blue dogs so that we can have a body that has some power and clout so that hopefully at some point, they can be the ones to tell Obama what's going to happen, instead of the other way around.

Even if that person lost the primary, if that person inspires and helps a new set of Democratic freshman in the congress and reinforce the backbone of the veterans like Grijalva, Kucinich, and DeFazio, we will have won, and perhaps also establish early on who we want to run in 2016 to make big changes, if Obama fails to help get things going in the 2012-2016 session. People will see in that case how Obama failed us, and how we need someone new like the person that ran against him. If Obama surprises us and starts doing a lot of the things this challenger advocates if and when he becomes president, once again, that will help establish the challenger as a front runner for 2016 too I think.

Staying out will leave us a vacuum and allow the DLC to manipulate our choices again in 2016 like they've done in the past elections.