Reply #11: the SA countries modeled their constitutions off yours, and also they wanted immigrants, but now... [View All]

all but the USA use de facto blocking practises to prevent illegals from having babies given citizenship. Canada has its own ways of blocking people, as they now have a 'public burden' test for entry, even if one of your parents are Canadian citizens.

For instance, if you got a job in Canada, and then applied for your spouse to join you, she/he has to have an official government health exam. Lets say your spouse has lupus, or hepatitis C. They will be denied, due to the claim that they will be an undue burden on the Canadian people via health care expense.

The USA, unfortunately for the citizens there of all ethnicities, is locked into a strange paradigm, designed to accomplish the systemic controller's end game, which is lower the wages of the entire populace and reduce the social mobility expectations of the workforce. If you come illegally to the USA from Mexico or from China, and were making 5 or 10 dollars a day, you will be thrilled with $50 or $60 a day, but for the American already there, this pay level is not acceptable as a striving-level motivation. This is the route of appeal designed to capture and manipulate the bourgeoisie Republican.

Furthermore, it is also a divisive political football designed for the Left, wherein the Democratic party looks with great happiness as the more legal and illegal immigrants that come in, the more votes they are sure they can get.

Here is my problem with this whole line.

1. The left (myself included) cherishes a broad social safety net, but here in the EU, especially the northern part, we are able to provide this because we have a large amount of high wage, high-skilled industrial manufacturing jobs, and we do not give auto-citizenship. The USA has shipped off 85% of its industrial manufacturing base since 1965, and has no system of high-tech trade schools to offer. Therefore, the vast majority of immigrants simply add into the already damaged job market, and most of the illegal ones work near the bottom for their lives, and many of the legal ones with skill sets simply debase the wages of the skilled pre-existing American workforce (look at Silicon Valley foreign software workers). Of course you can find many many exceptions, but in a nation of 312 million, they don't change the bottom line. This overall downward wage/skill pressure reduces the social democratic ideal from being realized at a multiplicity of levels.

2. Beware of auto-voters. By this I mean groups who will vote for a party in huge numbers no matter what that party actually does. If I was to list off the political major events from 2009 to now (expansion of war in Afghanistan, non closure of Guantanamo Bay, renewal and expansion of Patriot Act and DHS, renewal of huge tax breaks for the rich, new war in Libya, a health care reform (written by the insurance industry) that never seriously had single-payer as a goal, no serious financial reform, no prosecutions of anyone of import for the massive multi-trillion dollar fraud of the last decade, etc etc etc) and not tell you the party of the president, you would of course assume that those actions came from the pen of a Republican. If a party has auto-voters it can count on no matter what, it will abuse much of its base principles. Look at what is happening now, Obama gives left cover to right wing de facto policies.

3. Divide and conquer nature of not only the political immigration debate, but the outcome in the financial/physical/cultural real world as well. At some point, the country will reach a tipping point where the values that created the best of BOTH the American Left and the American Right will cease to exist, and the core values that held the nation together will be rent asunder. Then the WORST of both sides comes out, all orchestrated by the systemic controllers at the top, as they do not care which of the two parties is in so-called power, their agenda passes either way, nd the turmoil is a distraction away from their wicked ways.

This is the very model that makes 3rd world dictators so prevalent, as the nations they rule are artificial constructs with little ties that bind. They thus play one group against the other, and there is no center for deliberative democracy to cling to. Tyranny and poverty rule the day.