Falluja Breaks the Back of Iraq Rebels - U.S. General (pass the koolaid)

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The ground offensive in Falluja led by U.S. Marines has "broken the back of the insurgency" in Iraq (news - web sites), disrupting rebel operations across the country, a senior U.S. commander said on Thursday.



Lt. Gen. John Sattler, commander of the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force at Falluja, said the all-out assault on the city, which had been a safe haven for Iraqi insurgents who rose up after last year's ouster of President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites), had flushed the rebels out of their lair and scattered them.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20041118/ts_nm/iraq_falluja_sattler_dc&cid=564&ncid=1480

AP:Commander: Fallujah Insurgents Hit Hard

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041118/ap_on_re_mi_ea/us_iraq&cid=540&ncid=1480

Bloodshed in N.Iraq, Govt. Hails Falluja 'Success'
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=574&ncid=721&e=2&u=/nm/20041118/wl_nm/iraq_dc

WTF are these guys smoking????

if people weren't dying. :mad:

that's trademarked

I remember cause it took a few moments to pick my jaw off the floor

Yes, we crushed those insurgents time and time again as well.

I had a Tee shirt that said,

"WE WERE WINNING WHEN I LEFT." wore it out

LOL

I just completed "A Bright, Shining Lie" by Halberstam and found the Khe Sanh account absolutely shocking.

A lot of lies told Then. A lot of lies told Now

The more things change the more they remain the same.

send from Iraq all the good news to the shores of the US?

No, this is NOT like Viet Nam! :crazy:

So how come I heard on the news last night that the insurgents were slipping back in and ambushing the marines?
I suppose he has to say this, but, unless one is totally brain dead it's so obviously not true.

Get Bush dressed up in a flight suit! Stuff his crotch with socks! Put up a big "Mission Accomplished" banner on an aircraft carrier and pretend Bush landed a plane on it! The war is over!

Where have we heard this before?

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Don't you just luv these idiotic pronouncements? They say the have "broken the back of the insurgency" then in the next breath admit that this consists of "flushing the rebels out of their lair and scattering them." Sheesh....

I believe the troops are outnumbered by the "insurgents".

Last of the kool-aid drinking dead-enders will be choppered off the roof of the embassy.

Should have read your history books, you morons.

coming to mind a lot recently-choppers barely able to lift off the embassy roof with people hanging on by one hand, desperate to escape.

better communications and intelligence. What Colonel Happablap says is utter bullshit.

Unless by "scattered" he means dismembered and strewn about the city in small pieces, I don't think I would call this a mission that "broke the back" of the insugency.
Then again, that may be EXACTLY what he means.

Our volunteer military was designed for attack and destroy tactics against a hostile force, not police patrols and winning the "hearts and minds" of national civilians.

We seem woefully frustrated by the insurgents unwillingness to don a uniform, buy tanks and fighter jets, and fight us as a conventional army. Have we learned NOTHING since the Viet war?

The economy is turning around.

Freedom is on the march.

You forgot Poland.

And so on.

Sometimes I wonder if they say these things to make us believe them, or if they say these things to make themselves believe them. Right now, I'm starting to think it's the latter.

n/t

BAGHDAD, Iraq - U.S. troops sweeping through Fallujah on Thursday said they believe they have found the main headquarters of the insurgent group headed by Jordanian terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.



In video shot by an embedded CNN cameraman, soldiers walked through an imposing building with concrete columns and with a large sign in Arabic on the wall reading "Al Qaida Organization" and "There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger."


Inside the building, U.S. soldiers found documents, old computers, notebooks, photographs and copies of the Quran.


Al-Zarqawi last month renamed his group al-Qaida in Iraq (news - web sites), and his followers have been blamed for a number of deadly bombings and beheadings of foreign hostages, including three Americans and a Briton. The United States has offered a $25 million reward for his capture or killing — the same amount as for Osama bin Laden (news - web sites).

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&ncid=736&e=1&u=/ap/20041118/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

An imposing buiding

this is a great victory....we found a building!!! :eyes:

obviously al qaida would put a big sign on the building announcing it as their headquarters (sarcasm)....they might as well put a bull's eye on the roof. smells to me like the same people involved with the pre-election terror tape had their hands in this one also....

if it wasn't so sad. it would be funny.

We had drones and planes flying over Fallujah daily in the runup for months, and we didn't notice a big fucking sign that said Al Queda on a big fucking building? We never thought about dropping a bomb or two there, but we thought it was a good idea to drop a few on civilians? What do they need, flashing neon and a giant terrorist doll on the roof waving?

Something tells me some Iraqi's are having a really good laugh over this. What else did it say, ... "Really bad and scary guys inside"?

"In video shot by an embedded CNN cameraman, soldiers walked through an imposing building with concrete columns and with a large sign in Arabic on the wall reading "Al Qaida Organization" and "There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger."

Inside the building, U.S. soldiers found documents, old computers, notebooks, photographs and copies of the Quran".

...Saturday Night Live line awhile back

22 soldiers and marines died in the three days that followed the official prouncement that we had occupied Fallujah

DUBAI (AFP) - A statement posted on the website of Sunni Muslim militant group Ansar al-Sunna threatened to attack both candidates and voters in elections due to be held in Iraq (news - web sites) in January.


"We will target anyone who dares to stand in these elections because they will be considered apostates," said the statement, whose authenticity could not be independently verified.


"We announce that the Mujahedeen will attack the polling stations which are heathen places."


It was the second time a statement in the name of Iraqi insurgents had threatened efforts to wreck the promised nationwide elections.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1515&ncid=1515&e=9&u=/afp/20041118/wl_mideast_afp/iraq_vote_threat_041118181233

Victory Hasn't Broken Insurgency

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,138921,00.html

The recapture of Fallujah (search) has not broken the insurgents' will to fight and may not pay the big dividend U.S. planners had hoped — to improve security enough to hold national elections in Sunni Muslim (search) areas of central Iraq, according to U.S. and Iraqi assessments.

as a sorta, kinda, maybe a success. :)

Iraqis exist in "lairs," and we "flush them out." Doesn't take a linguist to figure out the dehumanizing going on here.

Praise our glorious victorious leader Bush! All is well now and the forces of freedom-hating Islamofascists are defeated. All hail Bush's name! Praise Him!

Sometimes I wonder how these folks get promoted.

Must be the Peter principle.