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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:19 PM
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U.S. General Says Zarqawi Harder to Nab Than Saddam
Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 12:23 PM by maddezmom
SANTIAGO, Chile (Reuters) - Iraqi insurgent leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is harder to catch than Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) but the chances may have improved since he fled Falluja, a U.S. general who captured the former president said on Saturday.



Zarqawi, an ally of al Qaeda, has a well-organized guerrilla network moving him between hide-outs but the U.S. defeat of insurgents this month in Falluja could have disrupted his coordination because he lost his main base, the general said.


"I think (with) Saddam, after the fall, there was no organization, he was fleeing for his life, whereas I think Zarqawi is a little more organized ... he has a more organized group around him than Saddam Hussein," Gen. Ray Odierno told reporters. "That's what makes it a bit more difficult with Zarqawi."

~snip~

The United States acknowledges Zarqawi's capture would not mean an end to the insurgency. Rather, success depended more on training Iraqi forces whose local knowledge should mean they understand how the guerrillas operate better than the American invaders, according to U.S. officials.



more: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20041120/ts_nm/iraq_usa_zarqawi_dc&cid=564&ncid=1480T

:eyes: more excuses to why things are falling apart by the seams in Iraq.
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:26 PM
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1. Hard work to capture your own troops; when you don't want to.
Betcha anything that the "D boys" (Delta force) are Zarqawi!

Gyre
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:26 PM
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2. You mean, Saddam wasn't the really tough, dangerous enemy?
You mean Zarqawi has the greater and more effective means of support than Saddam, who had a party, a state, an army, billions of dollars?

Too bad Bush decided to let Zarqawi go as part of his scheme to defraud the US into letting him attack Saddam.


http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4431601/
But NBC News has learned that long before the war the Bush administration had several chances to wipe out his terrorist operation and perhaps kill Zarqawi himself — but never pulled the trigger.

In June 2002, U.S. officials say intelligence had revealed that Zarqawi and members of al-Qaida had set up a weapons lab at Kirma, in northern Iraq, producing deadly ricin and cyanide.

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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:27 PM
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3. but how hard is Osama
never mind
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:54 PM
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19. Maybe Zarqawi is somewhere between Saddam and Osama...
On Bush's "Smoke'm Out" meter...


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Hard Attack Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:28 PM
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4. I believe Zarqawi has a wooded leg.
I believe Zarqawi has a wooded leg. - I read that a while back.

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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:30 PM
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5. and OBL lives in a cave
they sure get around don't they? :)
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:32 PM
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21. He's also been dead a few times. It's hard work catching those dead guys
on dialysis in caves, etc.,etc. They are just Goldsteins. They are probably both either dead long ago or hiding with Cheney in his hole.
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bin.dare Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 09:07 PM
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26. poor guy has been dead so long ...
his wooden leg has gone to seed, sprouted trees and become wooded. oops, sorry.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:30 PM
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6. Gen. Ray Odierno is a FUCKING IDIOT
They have caught neither in their SNIPE HUNT

In the rural South, and perhaps in other parts of the country, there comes the time
for "The Snipe Hunt." Most all young boys are handed a gunny sack, a light of sorts,
sometimes a whistle, and are taken deep into the woods to hunt Snipe. It's a right of
passage and something which must be done alone.
The snipe hunt by tradition is a rather simple affair. Legend has it..the snipe
is nocturnal and is best hunted at night when it leaves its snipe nest. Webster defines
the Snipe as a member of the Sandpiper family, but to this day no one has ever really
seen a Snipe, much less captured one. At least to my knowledge!! (By the way, the
fact that there really is long-billed bird called a Snipe has almost nothing to do with this
ritual hunt.)



You never shoot a snipe -- not with a gun, slingshot, or bow and arrow. You just catch
them in a gunnysack. Sure it seems rather odd, trying to catch a bird with a gunnysack,
but look at it this way, its another fun activity like chasing down a greased pig, or any
of the other peculiar things guys in the country call fun. I have to admit I was "grown"
before I learned the truth about "Snipe hunting," because when we moved to the city,
there it was again. At camps in the summer, Snipe hunting was at the top of the list of
activities!

ON EDIT; LARGER GUNNNY SACKS FOR THE TROOPS
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 01:48 PM
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8. I remember my 1st and only snipe hunt. True southern tradition.
Those that go on their 2nd snipe hunt turn out to be republicans.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 04:56 PM
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17. LOL good one
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 04:42 PM
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15. Just another whiney, clueless bullet-head ...
... complaining that HIS job is harder than the other guy's job ... neither of which are getting done. It's a standard "command officer" ploy - usually just before budget time.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 06:44 AM
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27. Yup, think you nailed that one
Another Whiney ass
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uhhuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:35 PM
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7. Of Course He's Harder To Capture Than Saddam
Saddam exists. Zarqawi is a fable made up to scare the adult children of the U.S.A.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 02:14 PM
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10. The perfect boogy-man: a dead amputee with a nose job. eom
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:01 PM
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20. And a Jordanian accent
running "wild and loose," undetected by Iraqis. Remember when Christine Amapour (sp?) upon seeing one of the first beheading tapes attrbuted to the "boogey-man of the month" quipped, "Z. is Jordanian and the speaker didn't have a Jordanian accent." Remember how QUICK she was put out to pasture?
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jmatthan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 02:10 PM
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9. I am sure there are a lot of holes in Iraq
for the US Marines to poke their noses into.

Probably one every 100 metres apart considering the number of car bombs going off these days!!


Jacob Matthan
Oulu, Finland

PS: Wonder whether the US Generals have ever heard of something called a mirage which one sees in the desert? Maybe these Generals were before the No Child Left Behind era?
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 02:29 PM
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11. No shit, how about Osama you dumbass
a damn shame some of these idiots are.
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 02:48 PM
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12. More nemeses and more stories
It is the TV show we are served. End of episode 23425: Saddam is captured but could his rival take over? You will know next week. Episode 23437: Zarqawi turns out to be the illegitimate son of Fatima, is Osama really dead? You will know next week. And in the mean time, DO NOT think, work, go to church, consume and shut up.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 04:01 PM
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13. Yeah, lets keep the juices flowing General. Tell me how you knew
Zarqawi was even in Falluja? How come you couldn't find Eric Rudolph in North Carolina
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 04:37 PM
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14. Yeah those one legged terrorists can really run fast, but not as fast
apparently as a six foot four guy attached to a dialysis machine!!!

Also, Zarquawi has been reported by some as already being dead,for two years. Those dead guys are really hard to catch.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 04:54 PM
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16. Maybe because Abu Musab al-Goldstein is already dead?
Just a "USG needs a boogeyman" thought...

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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:22 PM
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18. Was he ever IN Fallujah?
These people seem to think that repeating it enough will make it true....
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:36 PM
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22. Have they checked back at...
the spiderhole?
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:38 PM
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23. Snowball is a tricky fellow (nt)
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Halliburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:55 PM
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24. How can you find a ghost?
Supposedly, he appears masked in beheading videos only to dissapear into thin air.
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bin.dare Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 09:02 PM
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25. Phantom Fury ...
Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 09:10 PM by bin.dare
by having the right name for the operation. always important to achieving objectives.
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