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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 04:37 PM
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CBS Refuses to Pay Fine
The New York Times
November 20, 2004
CBS Refuses to Pay Fine
By BLOOMBERG NEWS

By Bloomberg News

The chief executive at CBS, Leslie Moonves, said yesterday that the company, a unit of Viacom, would not pay a $550,000 fine levied by the Federal Communications Commission for a Super Bowl halftime broadcast in which singer Janet Jackson's breast was bared.

The agency imposed the maximum $27,500 penalty against each of the 20 CBS-owned stations that broadcast the Super Bowl.

If the F.C.C. stands by the penalty, CBS could appeal to a federal appeals court.


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/20/business/media/20viacom.html
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 04:39 PM
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1. Whoa! What's happening here????
And why now???

I'd a hell of a lot rather he pay the fine and investigate bbv.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 04:56 PM
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Haha! CBS is drowning government in the bathtub!
I guess two can play that game.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 04:40 PM
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2. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!! I hope they dig in tight against the fraudulent puritans.
.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 04:43 PM
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3. Excellent.
Let the FCC work for a living. This was nothing but a politically-motivated attempt to make points with the most drooling amongst us.

They got lawyers, the FCC got lawyers, them guys make a lot of money, let them work for a living.

And in the bargain, let CBS do something very rare for a media company: Stand on principle.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 04:52 PM
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7. The Most Drooling amongst us.
Ya the types who waited on the edge of their chairs for the Monika story. Creeps and cretins.


Reverend Jimmy Swaggart: Apology Sermon



This church , this ministry, this Bible college , these professors, this choir, these musicians, these singers that have stood with me on a thousand crusade platforms around the world, that have labored unstintedly and tirelessly to lift up that great name of Jesus Christ, to tell the weary that He is rest, and the sin-cursed that he, Jesus, is victory, my associates -- and no evangelist ever had a greater group of men and women, given by the hand of God -- have stood with me unstintedly , unflaggingly. I have sinned against you. I have brought shame and embarrassment to you. I beg your forgiveness.


All this brought on because the good Reverend decided to Play "Hide the Kielbasa" with a few $15.00 a trick, street hookers.

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:01 AM
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48. Cheap bastard!
He cruised the roach motels on Airline Hwy lookin' for discounts. He got caught because he was too cheap - refused to pay an extra 5 bucks or so. "Mr Crocodile Tears" did it AGAIN in California, got busted and yet he is STILL ON TV. Lately, he's been openly advocating killing ALL Muslims. Yep. I saw and heard him, live on TV about a month ago, telling his congregation that we should "kill them all."

Fucking bastard! :grr:

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purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 04:44 PM
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4. For once I am on the side of the big media...
Go CBS!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 04:46 PM
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5. you know it jake!
g d it, with all the problems America has I cannot believe THIS is what people choose to get outraged about. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:14 PM
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30. It's "fake outrage" anyway
to steal a phrase from Bill Maher. FAKE.
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 04:50 PM
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6. CBS refuses to pay the nipple tax!
well, this sure is a far cry from the Boston Tea Party, isn't it???????
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:01 PM
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10. No nipples without representation! n/t
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:35 PM
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15. Michael Powell should be fined/taxed for every nipple he sees.
Whether in his bedroom, in a movie, in print and whether it is female or male.
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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 04:56 PM
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8. how about suing all of the penis enlargement and diet pills ads?
I'm so burnt out of trying to watch cable news and having to sit
through hours of those friggin "big dick" ads and "diet pill"
ads.

To me, those are way more obscene, the constant dick size and functioning obsession and fraudulent drug ads where they don't
even have any results....

never mind it's just rude to have those constantly shoved in your face.

You're sitting with a date, you're watching a movie...here comes dick size. You're a teen age boy, just hitting puberty, here comes dick size.

WTF. From day one everybody is going to feel inadequate until they
rub the girl raw and rupture her with some member designed for a horse.
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:13 PM
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12. And the focus on the
female private parts. Female itch and odor, about that time your girlfriend be hiding behind the couch.

And not to forget the other sensitive areas that are frequently mentioned.

180
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:59 PM
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19. Those big dick drugs don't work...
Damn.....
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PhuLoi Donating Member (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 06:24 PM
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26. They do but not as one would anticipate.
They cause the rest of the body to shrink to a height of about thirty inches leaving the weiner unchanged. Everything is relative. Can I get some help getting off this chair? A little help here! Sigh.
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 06:02 PM
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20. Right if you blinked you missed th nip, but the erection ads go on and on
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:00 PM
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9. Good. It should be Janet Jackson that gets fined, not CBS.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:03 PM
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11. Why fine her, i thought it was a perfectly cute nipple!
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:55 PM
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18. No one should get fined, it's free speech and the FCC is fucked
If they want to fine CBS, they should fine every bikini wearing person in every show on TV.

Don't fall for the right wing pro-censorship bullshit.
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AusTexDem Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:41 PM
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31. God made the offending nipple. sue him
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flygal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 02:38 AM
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37. Wasn't the nipple covered with a pasty ?
I just don't get the big whoop. Didn't NYPD Blue show men's butts? Why weren't they fined? This country needs to do some growing up.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:17 PM
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13. Why should CBS pay a fine
for something that happened without their fore knowledge?

It was either an accident or Janet did it on purpose ..either way..CBS shouldn't be held responsible.

And they obviously don't think so either.
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lil-petunia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:34 PM
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14. GO CBS! This ain't the Victorian Age, after all
Lactating glands are supposed to be evil, hidden from the sensitive eyes of all americans, while Die Hard manages to kill 20 or so?

Tell me how that makes sense.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:38 PM
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16. I think all socially responsible people should bare their nipples
in support of CBS.
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 06:13 PM
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22. Now THAT
is a great call to action! :D
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:39 AM
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34. so make a shirt
Oh, this would be fun.

Ladies, take a unisex shirt and cut very small holes in the front- only enough for the nipple to poke through, leaving the rest of the chest covered. It's a reverse bikini!

I would laugh so hard if I saw that, even when understanding why it was being done. It's just a fabulous response.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:12 PM
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29. CBS could be our MSM savior. I'd be proud for my nipples to be seen
on CBS!!!
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:55 PM
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41. And Megan, I'd be proud to see them ! n/t
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:41 PM
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17. Good for them... tell them to "Go fuck themselves" on 60 minutes.
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GoSolar Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 06:08 PM
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21. Yay CBS!
About time they stood up for themselves.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 06:15 PM
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23. Redstone's already blinked; this is playing with fire
Sumner Redstone backed off with the TANG documents--which still may very well be photocopies of authentic memos--and called off untimely 60 Minutes stories on the trumped-up lies that led us into Iraq and lame-ass cheapness on the subject of body armor and other equipment.

He even went so far as to point out in Japan that although he considered himself a Democrat, he felt the Republicans were more helpful for his business, so he'd be voting for Bush.

If he thinks he can fight now, he's nuts. If he thinks his appeasement will give him the good graces of the administration and the FCC to increase his media holdings, he's delusional.

Dealing with the Bush Mob is like dealing with the Hell's Angels, and Hunter Thompson got it right lo these many years ago: if you pull a gun, you'd better use it, because if you don't, they'll kill you. I don't mean that they'd literally off Redstone, but they WILL put every roadblock in his way, put the screws on in every way possible, and bring him to heel.

He's seriously bungled every turn in the maneuvering over the last 6 months, and that spells trouble for us all.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 06:17 PM
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24. They should be FINED every time they show this boob ...
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Kellis Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 06:22 PM
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25. Hellellujah!
Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 06:33 PM by Kellis
We need to flood their inbox with support!!!!!!

CBSnews.com, Dick Meyer (Editorial Director), grain@cbsnews.com


Lets show them what the 55 million who have a brain think of their refusal!!!

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ydya Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 02:39 AM
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38. Dude, Thats brilliant! Thanks, I needed the laugh. eom.
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JoshWatermanMN Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 06:55 PM
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27. Civil Disobedience from a Major Corporation
Good for them!
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Kill Radicalism Now Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 06:58 PM
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28. CBS rocks
They were the only corp to dare reporting Bush's so called "service" in the national guard. Of course, they got ripped for it because their source claimed he lied to them. Go boobs and real news!

Now, let me bury my nose in the newspaper...
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:25 AM
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32. For all their problems with nipples and breasts....
Who else here thinks that Ashcroft and Powell Jr. were bottle babies and not breast fed as infants?
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Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:06 AM
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33. Their mamas didn't love them...
and now they're taking it out on us. :(
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:49 AM
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35. Hey, Michael Powell ... look over here ....
*flashing my left boob while undulating my pelvis in a mocking fashion*

Fine THAT, you worthless beneficiary of nepotism.

woooo hoooo!
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 02:30 AM
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36. Dang, tinked down the thread and thought I was in the lounge
Then found out it was LBN, guess Skinners pinned post worked, they all left and are camped out here :D
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 03:03 AM
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39. FINE JANET
It was her boob
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Kellis Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:28 PM
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40. kick
will everyone take a moment and email CBS to show support over this refusal.
They got overwhelming criticism when this happened-we need to show them we support this move.

CBSnews.com, Dick Meyer (Editorial Director), grain@cbsnews.com
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 11:54 PM
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43. Give hell CBS! Make them moralist scream like wounded
pigs.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 11:02 PM
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42. Someone standing up to the thugs? Imagine that!
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:15 AM
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44. Les is more...
More of a mensch than I thought. I hope Dave talks about it next week if he talks to Les on the phone.
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proudbluestater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:21 AM
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45. Good for CBS Where are all the OTHER fines?
They fine Howard Stern, too, for indecency. Where is the indecency fine for Rush Limbaugh for spouting hatred every single day? Where is the fine for Faux Spews lying every single day about John Kerry's record? Where is the fine for the very indecent, hateful Ann Coulter?

A boob shot is not a big deal to me. Neither is a naked back on Monday Night Football at 9 PM. They showed Dennis Franz's bare ass at 10 pm and that was ok.

This all pales in comparison to the daily onslaught of hate speech by the right wing nuts in this country who rule the airways. When is THEIR fine coming? Bare bodies are a NATURAL form of being. Hate speech is not, it is abhorrent and damaging to the country.
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footinmouth Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:36 AM
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46. Sadly, we missed the live nipple
Hubby and I were in the room, the set was on, we were awake and watching and totally missed the damn thing. Had to catch it on the endless replays. Drudge was kind enough to post a pic of the original boob in all its glory, much better than the pixelated boob we were forced to watch on the replays. I'm outraged that it was the event of the year and we managed to miss it.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:49 AM
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47. i missed it too, and i'm glad. i think that janet should keep her breasts
under wraps, especially with that bizarre piercing. eww, and ouch.
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Cadence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:31 AM
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50. LOL!
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boi1946 Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:02 AM
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49. OK, I watch 'way too much TV,
but I've been really impressed with CBS's programming lately.
"Joan of Arcadia" had a plot line 2--3 weeks about the morality of outing a fellow student Joan had found out was gay. (She didn't.)
"Cold Case Files" last Sunday was about what seemed to be an early hate crime, the early days of the "gay flu" that eventually became known as AIDS. It ended with a present-day gay wedding that was beautifully portrayed. (I cried.)
Thursday night CSI was about the death of a transgendered person during reassignment surgery. Since this is a bewildering subject for many people, I thought they did shed light on some misconceptions.
More than anything, all the shows stressed that people with different lifestyles are deserving of the respect all people deserve.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:33 AM
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51. This is one of the funniest threads I've ever read, and I sent it to CBS.
They need to know when they inspire people :)
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