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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 10:44 PM
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Congress Passes $388 Billion Spending Bill
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Congress on Saturday passed a $388 billion package financing government programs in this fiscal year after days of tough talks, but a last minute snag means it may not be sent to President Bush for signing into law for several days.

The Senate voted 65-30 for the legislation late on Saturday that sets aside funds for a range of priorities including a presidential yacht, foreign aid and energy. It is one of the final pieces of work for the 108th Congress and they may return to finish a spy agency overhaul before the end of the year.

The House of Representatives passed the bill 344-51 earlier on Saturday. But it must also approve a resolution that would correct part of the spending bill that would have allowed lawmakers access to the tax returns of Americans and which provoked outrage among lawmakers from both parties.

The House is expected to do that next week but until it has been done the spending bill will not be sent to Bush for signing into law. Congress passed a measure to keep the government open in the meantime.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6875356
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 10:46 PM
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1. Presidential yacht? WTF??
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 10:51 PM
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2. For the War President.
:grr:
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 10:55 PM
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4. Republican fiscal conservatism is a joke
and now they're flaunting it in our faces.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 08:33 AM
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26. Agreed. This bill is chock full of pork.
And we're drowning in debt. These people have no clue how to govern. Their short-sightedness threatens to plunge us into a global depression.

Depressing.

-Laelth
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 10:55 PM
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3. So future presidents can go yachting too?
This is low, given the circumstances this county is in.

:shakes head in shame:
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Northern Experiment Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 10:56 PM
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5. A Yacht??!?!?
This makes me sick.
All thats going on in this country and they take the time out to give the president even MORE vacation time?

Sickening.
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Spock_is_Skeptical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 11:00 PM
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6. Hey now, the Fuhrer needs his yacht
He's run outta stuff to do on all his vacation time in office, y'know.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 11:00 PM
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7. Hahahaha!
A yacht! Woah!

Wow.


Hahahaha! Is it playtime already? Jesus christ I gotta get outta here.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 11:02 PM
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8. So only 30 senators and 50 reps voted against this?
That means we lost some "dems", right?
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 11:04 PM
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10. Yep... we lost Clinton on this one....
makes me sick. I am really angry right now.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 11:24 PM
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14. She's my senator!
Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 11:25 PM by DireStrike
But after reading Sangh0's post below, I realize it's not that bad.

The voice of skepticism, we need you here. Thanks, sangh0.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 11:04 PM
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9. Hey, the Queen had her yacht...
I guess the king/boy emperor needs his.
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Northern Experiment Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 11:12 PM
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11. Well, I guess it is 'HARD WERK'...
being the president and all.

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UL_Approved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 11:15 PM
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12. What ever happened to the Clinton days?
I'm sure we all remember the time when Clinton wouldn't sign off the budget bill back during his first term. Why can't the Democrats show a little backbone, especially the ones who are on the way out? In another thread, Daschle voted for the abortion restrictions. Have we lost the Democratic party?
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 11:20 PM
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13. This article is very misleading - The NY Times article is better (no link)
Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 11:20 PM by sangh0
The Dems in the Senate got an agreement that requires a vote on the abortion provision, which can still be subjected to delay. Basically, the Dems lost nothing, and gained the opportunity to put every Senator on the record for their vote, so in the midterm elections, the 66% of the American voters will know who to vote for.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:56 AM
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15. exSQUEEZE ME?????
BUSH tried to take away our troops' COMBAT and HAZARD DUTY pay...

Our TROOPS still don't have enough RIFLES, AMMO, BODY ARMOR...

Our TROOPS are up-armoring their humvees with PLYWOOD AND SANDBAGS...

And at the same time, BUSH GETS OUR MONEY for a FUCKING "PRESIDENTIAL" YACHT???!!!


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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 02:00 AM
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16. yep
And consider yourself exSQUEEZED. ;)
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 02:17 AM
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17. Thanks. :)
A fucking YACHT???!!!!!

:wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:

NICE "MORAL VALUES" when it's other peoples' money and LIVES.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 02:22 AM
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18. yacht? but but...i thought bush was an average joe!!!
not like them latte lovin liberals!!!

:crazy:
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 02:25 AM
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19. Republican leaders had cut crucial funding for education, health, environ
To fit into limits demanded by Bush as part of his effort to trim the record budget deficit, Republicans agreed to make an across-the-board cut in spending levels backed earlier by the House and Senate, provoking anger among some lawmakers.

EXCEPT FOR THE PRESIDENTIAL YACHT.


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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 02:32 AM
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20. it all went to the hippies anyway...
so they don't get no more trees to hug. go to canada if ya don't like it!!
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 02:37 AM
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21. We are...
going to Canada. One more year! :)

Can't take living in this military fascist dictatorship a day longer than we have to.

One more year! One more year! :) :) :)
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 02:57 AM
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22. Nice work Dems
I hope you go out on the yacht and fall into the brink
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 03:05 AM
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23. Now, let's keep fingers crossed that the Chinese will loan us money
to pay for it. Otherwise, we are hosed.
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PROUDNWLIBERAL Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 03:35 AM
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24. Reading the Bill
I wonder how many of our elected officials read the 1000 page document. Most don't and they vote on it anyway. Once again the Democrats rolled over in the Senate and didn't filibuster this bill to get the abortion issue out of the Bill. I've had enough, when I get back to the States I will be turning my voter registration in. Let the country go to the Repukes---love to see it go down hill---what a piece of shit America has become!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 08:40 AM
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27. From what I understand ...
... our Democratic Senators weren't given time to read the bill. It was dumped on their desks about 4 hours before they were scheduled to vote on it. They were steamed too. Big fight on the Senate floor last night on C-Span 2. One particular provision, giving the chairs of the appropriations committees of the Senate and the House full access to all IRS records caused quite a stink. The R's blamed a "staffer" for sliding the measure in. In off-the-floor wrangling, it looks like the house is being asked to remove that provision next week, but we'll have to wait and see what happens.

-Laelth
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 08:50 AM
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28. Actually, the omnibus spending bill was 3300 pages...
and John McCain pointed out during the debate that since the bill was finished late Friday night/early Saturday morning, most senators received their printed copy around noon. So it would have been physically impossible for any senator to have read the entire bill.

It was only through sheer luck that the Dems found the IRS provision before it passed.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:37 AM
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30. Worried about what else they missed in it...
this from the NY Times:

Republicans hailed the measure for holding the line on domestic spending levels through a slight across-the-board cut, but Democrats said the voluminous bill - which rose more than a foot high - was being forced through too quickly.

"Have you read this bill well enough to have confidence you know what is in it?" Representative Brian Baird, Democrat of Washington, asked his colleagues on the House floor.

They caught the IRS provision...but what other horrors lurk inside that nobody's caught yet?
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 03:36 AM
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25. There used to be a Presidential yacht.
Most notable perhaps was the Sequoia, used by FDR, Kennedy and Nixon among others.

Interesting that Bush wants to dump The New Deal but let's use tax payer dollars in a time of record deficits to revive the Presidential yacht? Bah.

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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:36 AM
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29. President Carter SOLD the Yacht...
...because it didn't fit his image of the presidency...he thought it was too imperial. :)

Figures chimpboy would just HAVE to have one.
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bri_in_austin Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:39 AM
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31. Does anyone know if there was success in changing the anti-abortion
language in the Bill before it was passed?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:46 AM
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32. No, but there is a 'promise' to have an up and down vote on it...
in April 05, till then the provision can be put into effect. Who believes that it will be reversed in April, 05 given that the Senate has more repubs than the previous election?
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bri_in_austin Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:57 AM
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33. Man, that is so depressing!
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 11:38 AM
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34. 3.5% Raise for Federal Civilian Workers Makes Spending Bill
Congressional negotiators reached agreement yesterday on a spending package that provides a 3.5 percent raise for federal civilian employees, more than double that sought by President Bush.

In other developments, lawmakers dropped language forcing the OMB to abandon revised rules designed to speed up the competitions run by agencies to determine whether private contractors can do federal work more cheaply than civil servants. The provision, sponsored by Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) and Sen. Barbara A. Mikulski (D-Md.), had earlier won approval in the House and in a Senate committee.

Also dropped was language that would have guaranteed federal employees in every agency the right to reorganize their work units as "most efficient organizations" -- with fewer workers, for example, or better technology -- when they go up against contractors in competitions involving 10 or more jobs.

The measure would have required contractors to show savings of at least 10 percent or $10 million to win a competition . Such restrictions still apply to the Defense Department, but the White House had threatened to veto any effort to expand them government-wide. "The Bush administration through its actions is once again showing its disrespect for the people who deliver valuable public services every day," Van Hollen said. In a statement, Mikulski said: "I will keep fighting to fix the competition process that is shamefully slanted in favor of private contractors."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A859-2004Nov20.html
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