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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 07:00 AM
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"U.S. kept quiet on Chávez plot"
Edited on Wed Nov-24-04 07:15 AM by annabanana
Newsday
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/world/ny-wovene244053424nov24,0,4856696.story?coll=ny-worldnews-headlines

U.S. kept quiet on Chávez plot




BY BART JONES AND LETTA TAYLER
STAFF WRITERS; Jones was reporting from Long Island and Tayler from Caracas.

November 24, 2004

The U.S. government knew of an imminent plot to oust Venezuela's leftist president, Hugo Chávez, in the weeks prior to a 2002 military coup that briefly unseated him, newly released CIA documents show, despite White House claims to the contrary a week after the putsch.

Yet the United States, which depends on Venezuela for nearly one-sixth of its oil, never warned the Chávez government, Venezuelan officials said.

The Bush administration has denied it was involved in the coup or knew one was being planned. At a White House briefing on April 17, 2002, just days after the 47-hour coup, a senior administration official who did not want to be named said, "The United States did not know that there was going to be an attempt of this kind to overthrow - or to get Chávez out of power."

Yet based on the newly released CIA briefs, an analyst said yesterday that did not appear to be the case.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 07:02 AM
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1. I see the Spanish gov't has confirmed the involvement
of the former * supporting fascists in this coup attempt, must just be a coincidence, though. :eyes:

http://www.granma.cu/ingles/2004/noviembre/mar23/48chavez.html
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 07:04 AM
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2. You'll need to change your thread title
to the one the article uses: "U.S. kept quiet on Chávez plot". It should still get people's attention here, don't worry.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 07:05 AM
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3. It would certainly be in keeping with our history down there.
I would not be particularly surprised if a Republican administration was backing coups in South America.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 07:16 AM
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4. I'm beginning to think it's a habit with them....................n/t
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 07:16 AM
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5. People in the Caribbean believed that bush WAS involved!
The news in the region was certainly being reported as if the US Government was involved -- as soon as the story broke -- word on the street in many Caribbean nations was "that damned bush . . ."

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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 08:46 AM
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6. looks like the Spanish Foreign Minister was right.
Edited on Wed Nov-24-04 08:46 AM by maddezmom
Chavez Visit to Spain Sparks Coup Controversy


MADRID (Reuters) - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez's fence-mending visit to Spain sparked political uproar on Tuesday when Madrid for the first time backed his allegations that the previous government supported a coup against him.



The surprise accusation by Spanish Foreign Minister Miguel Angel Moratinos was denounced as a lie by members of the former conservative government, who demanded Moratinos' resignation and called on Chavez to stop repeating similar claims.


Chavez's visit -- intended to patch up relations damaged by the April 2002 coup when rebel generals imprisoned him for two days -- ended up exposing bitter political divisions in Spain.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1015996&mesg_id=1015996
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 08:56 AM
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7. Knew of it?? They were the architects. What is wrong with this wimpy
press.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 09:08 AM
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8. No kidding
Everyone else in the world knows that the US engineered that coup but US citizens. I figured that the time that the Bush administration wanted to somehow 'control' Venezuela's oil before they invaded Iraq, hence the timing of the coup.

Watch the movie 'The Revolution Will Not Be Televised". You can watch the US Ambassador at work as he coordinates the coup. In addition, when little Pedro 'King-for-a-Day' Carmona was deposed, he immediately fled to the US Embassy.

And that doesn't even touch on the US registration of the plane that was sitting on the airstrip at the jail Chavez was kept at for 2 days, OR the suspicious US naval activity just off the coast of Venezuela during the coup.

And THAT doesn't even begin to deal with the money trail, which goes right back to the NED sponsored International Republican Institute.

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 07:49 PM
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15. Bingo. eom
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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 09:30 AM
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9. Bad CIA.....
they got the memo....now look what they have done.......I'd say releasing this information does not support the admistration...what will the boss think?

:dripping with sarcasm:
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 09:42 AM
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10. The US bankrolled the action, original articles from 2002 here:
World News

April 24, 2002

Venezuelan coup plotter 'in Miami'
From David Adams in Miami

IN THE aftermath of Venezuela’s failed coup, the United States faces further potential embarrassment after the discovery that several alleged coup leaders fled to Miami.
They include Isaac Pérez Recao, 32, a reputed arms-dealer and heir to a Venezuelan oil fortune. With a group of armed bodyguards, Señor Pérez Recao played a highly visible role in the April 12-13 coup, according to reports in Caracas. As the coup unraveled, he is said to have jumped into a private helicopter and escaped to the Caribbean island of Aruba.

He and his brother and business partner, Vicente Pérez Recao, were seen later in Miami, where they own properties. They did not return telephone calls to their $500,000 beachfront flat in Key Biscayne, a wealthy island suburb of Miami.

Under US law, the Secretary of State has the power to deny entry visas or revoke their issuance to persons deemed to have “potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the United States”. This power has been used in recent cases against Haitian military officers and civilians alleged to have been involved in plotting a coup. It was also applied to President Chávez after he led an unsuccessful coup attempt in 1992.

The Venezuelan Government has asked the US for clarification of its response to the failed coup, which Washington appeared at first to welcome, but it has yet to make any official comment about the presence of the Pérez Recao family on US soil.

Close advisers to President Chávez have called on the US to take swift action. “They should be taking the same position with these people as they did with us,” Lieutenant- Colonel Wilmer Castro, a former air force officer who helped to restore Señor Chávez to power, said.

US officials declined to discuss the involvement of Señor Pérez Recao, saying that they are still investigating what went on during the coup.


Venezuela coup linked to Bush team

Specialists in the 'dirty wars' of the Eighties encouraged the plotters who tried to topple President Chavez

Observer Worldview <http://www.observer.co.uk/worldview>

Ed Vulliamy in New York
Sunday April 21, 2002
The Observer <http://www.observer.co.uk>

The failed coup in Venezuela was closely tied to senior officials in
the US government, The Observer has established. They have long histories in the 'dirty wars' of the 1980s, and links to death squads working in Central America at that time. Washington's involvement in the turbulent events that briefly removed left-wing leader Hugo Chavez from power last weekend resurrects fears
about US ambitions in the hemisphere. It also also deepens doubts about policy in the region being made by appointees to the Bush administration, all of whom owe their careers to serving in the dirty wars under President Reagan. One of them, Elliot Abrams, who gave a nod to the attempted Venezuelan coup, has a conviction for misleading Congress over the infamous Iran-Contra affair.
The Bush administration has tried to distance itself from the coup. It immediately endorsed the new government under businessman Pedro
Carmona. But the coup was sent dramatically into reverse after 48 hours. Now officials at the Organisation of American States and other diplomatic sources, talking to The Observer, assert that the US administration was not only aware the coup was about to take place, but had sanctioned it, presuming it to be destined for success.

The visits by Venezuelans plotting a coup, including Carmona himself, began, say sources, 'several months ago', and continued until weeks before the putsch last weekend. The visitors were received at the White House by the man President George Bush tasked to be his key policy-maker for Latin America, Otto Reich.

Reich is a right-wing Cuban-American who, under Reagan, ran the Office for Public Diplomacy. It reported in theory to the State Department, but Reich was shown by congressional investigations to report directly to Reagan's National Security Aide, Colonel Oliver North, in the White House. North was convicted and shamed for his role in Iran-Contra, whereby arms bought by busting US sanctions on Iran were sold to the Contra guerrillas and death squads, in revolt against the Marxist government in Nicaragua.
Reich also has close ties to Venezuela, having been made ambassador to Caracas in 1986. His appointment was contested both by Democrats in Washington and political leaders in the Latin American country. The objections were overridden as Venezuela sought access to the US oil market.
Reich is said by OAS sources to have had 'a number of meetings with
Carmona and other leaders of the coup' over several months. The coup was discussed in some detail, right down to its timing and chances of success, which were deemed to be excellent.

On the day Carmona claimed power, Reich summoned ambassadors from Latin America and the Caribbean to his office. He said the removal of Chavez was not a rupture of democra tic rule, as he had resigned and was 'responsiblefor his fate'. He said the US would support the Carmona government.

But the crucial figure around the coup was Abrams, who operates in the White House as senior director of the National Security Council for 'democracy,human rights and international opera tions'. He was a leading theoretician of the school known as 'Hemispherism', which put a priority on combating Marxism in the Americas.
It led to the coup in Chile in 1973, and the sponsorship of regimes and death squads that followed it in Argentina, El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala and elsewhere. During the Contras' rampage in Nicaragua, he worked directly to North.
Congressional investigations found Abrams had harvested illegal funding for the rebellion. Convicted for withholding information from the inquiry, he was pardoned by George Bush senior.
A third member of the Latin American triangle in US policy-making is
John Negroponte, now ambassador to the United Nations. He was Reagan's ambassador to Honduras from 1981 to 1985 when a US-trained death squad, Battalion 3-16, tortured and murdered scores of activists. A diplomatic source said Negroponte had been 'informed that there might be some movement in Venezuela on Chavez' at the beginning of the year. More than 100 people died in events before and after the coup. In Caracas on Friday a military judge confined five high-ranking officers to indefinitehouse arrest pending formal charges of rebellion.
Chavez's chief ideologue - Guillermo Garcia Ponce, director of the
Revolutionary Political Command - said dissident generals, local media and anti-Chavez groups in the US had plotted the president's removal.
'The most reactionary sectors in the United States were also implicated in the conspiracy,' he said.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 09:55 AM
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11. Ludicrous denial...
I remember translating Chávez's own words. I believe when Chávez was being held, he was being held on board a US NAVY ship. How could the US not know when they had him? Chávez smuggled a note out and that alerted the other Latin American heads of state and started the drive to get him back in power.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 10:55 AM
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12. Coup plotters are living in Florida
Chavez wants them extradited for trial, but Bush so far has refused.

More proof Bush supports terrorists.
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marmadogg Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 11:01 AM
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13. This is what happens when the President fucks with the CIA
Keep the leaks coming!
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 02:09 PM
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14. Hi marmadogg!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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masshole1979 Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 07:58 PM
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16. the us didn't have to engineer the coup...
...you should see the venezuelan rightwing wack-jobs. I actually talked to a girl who thought a coup would be a good idea. And she was a student at harvard!

Of course, the golpistas obviously thought they were going to get more support from the US than they did. It is a testament to how far we have come that the whole thing wasn't done like Pinochet in Chile, where the US really was instrumental.

Then again, Chavez is no Allende :(
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