Conservatives outraged as Hollywood talks about sex

LOS ANGELES (AFP) - American conservative groups are outraged over a new film starring Liam Neeson about controversial sex researcher Alfred Kinsey whom they accuse of being a closet pornographer.

The release of "Kinsey" 50 years after the publication of "Sexual Behaviour in the Human Male" and "Sexual Behaviour in the Human Female" has cast a new spotlight on America's sexual revolution, while the film has earned critical praise despite the controversy.

Conservative Christians and family groups have picketed cinemas in New York, Los Angeles and other cities since the film, directed by Bill Condon, came out at the start of November.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1504&ncid=1504&e=10&u=/afp/20041124/ts_afp/afplifestyle_film_usa_041124064014

SEX? *faint*
How ridiculous.

...violence in the name of Jesus.

VIOLENT fundie turn on..the Iraqi Invasion!

A better combination of subject line and visual shocker I have not seen in some time.

Nice one.

I'm sure they won't talk about what's in their closet.
Whatever.

There's a LOT more foaming at the mouth over Nicollette Sheridan's towel-dropping than there has been over the NBA "basketbrawl." And do we see any fundies standing up to denounce that shameful eruption of violence? Anybody? Mr. Falwell? Mr. Robertson? Hello? Focus on the Family? Anybody there?

and to a lesser extent: pro-Torture, pro-Slavery.

how do they ever procreate? There is only one way to make babies, and I think we all know what that is. I have an idea for a movie! How about two righties meeting, falling in love, discussing having children, and failing because they don't have a clue how to go about it with their clothes on while sleeping in separate beds. It could be rated "S" for stupidity.

with a very young Don Johnson, from a story by Harlan Ellison. It is a story about a post nuclear war US, where all of the wingnuts live underground and have built the perfect society along the lines of a Jerry Falwell vision. All of the men are infertile so they capture the "top dwellers" that are able to survive on the surface and extract sperm from them. They hold wedding cermonies with the bride and a vial of sperm.

:evilgrin:

but I can't remember the ending. D'oh!

And there's only one thing available to feed him...

I make him watch cheesy sci-fi. He makes me watch zombie movies

LOVED that flick, saw it in college! Had forgotten all about it -
classic!
:toast:

"And that's ALL you need to know"

1984 Ch. 6:

The aim of the Party was not merely to prevent men and women from forming loyalties which it might not be able to control. Its real, undeclared purpose was to remove all pleasure from the sexual act. Not love so much as eroticism was the enemy, inside marriage as well as outside it. All marriages between Party members had to be approved by a committee appointed for the purpose, and -- though the principle was never clearly stated -- permission was always refused if the couple concerned gave the impression of being physically attracted to one another. The only recognized purpose of marriage was to beget children for the service of the Party. Sexual intercourse was to be looked on as a slightly disgusting minor operation, like having an enema. This again was never put into plain words, but in an indirect way it was rubbed into every Party member from childhood onwards. There were even organizations such as the Junior Anti-Sex League, which advocated complete celibacy for both sexes. All children were to be begotten by artificial insemination (artsem, it was called in Newspeak) and brought up in public institutions. This, Winston was aware, was not meant altogether seriously, but somehow it fitted in with the general ideology of the Party. The Party was trying to kill the sex instinct, or, if it could not be killed, then to distort it and dirty it. He did not know why this was so, but it seemed natural that it should be so. And as far as the women were concerned, the Party's efforts were largely successful.

But then, of course, they way they do most everything could be summed up as "groping in the darkness"

And how come rightwingnuts are such blathering HYPOCRITES?

And if it wasn't SEX, just what WAS Dild O'Reilly doing???

Church people are not perfect just forgiven. I seen that on a bumper sticker. So they have a license to sin. But the rest of us are damed. makes a lot of sense.

if there is no god, heaven, or hell. Wasn't that in a John Lennon song?

:shrug:

and someone had to go and mention falafel bildo rielly.

:puke:

Correct that spelling mistake.

It's 'KKKonservative KKKristians.' ;) ;) ;)

there are is to be no enjoyment of sex in this regime.

"The gun is good. The penis is evil."

Oh, wait. No they didn't.

You ever wonder what would happen if these Focus on the Non-Fucking Family people ever got their way? What would they do with all the energy, time, and money they spend attempting to curb all of this evil hedonism couched as biographical drama?

Well, I guess they could spend it taking care of their 15 year old's newborn.

If they think it is so evil then they can stay home.
I wasn't really planning on going to it myself, but I may have to go now if it will piss off the fundies.

War, yeah, fine, kill 100,000 Iraqis, but good LORD, don't show SEX. Don't talk about sex. Sex does not exist. Good girls don't!

You'd think every freaking Republican off spring was a virgin birth.

n/t

if your unit was 1 inch long like most repukkks. Ok, maybe I was being untruthful. It's 11/2 inches. but really when there are so much that is painful in life, why deny one of life's pleasures?

shuts out everything to do with the life instinct, like sex, love, caring for others. They have killed their own humanity.

gotto to see it. Leftover popcorn will be given to to the first picketeer I see.

their fucked up fundie marriage the counselor is using all kinds of research from Kinsey to help them get the zing back.

Face it, these people are beyond hopeless.

It's advice {Director} Condon takes to heart as he introduces us to Kinsey on the campus of Indiana University, where he teaches a class about the mating habits of the gall wasp. Among his students is Clara "Mac" McMillen (Laura Linney), who fancies the professor but believes him "too churchy." Theirs is a cool courtship that culminates in wedding-night lovemaking more akin to wrestling than sex. Watching the pain on her face, and the humiliation on his, is almost too much to bear, but Condon doesn't pull back or grimace or, yes, even judge.

It is, after all, a seminal moment in Kinsey's life and career, as he decides the only reason he and Mac are lousy at love is because no one taught them how to do it right. They've been the victims of "morality masquerading as fact," he tells her, referring to a course in abstinence and fear offered by Professor Thurman Rice (Frank-N-Furter himself, Tim Curry, in a bit of brilliant casting).

www.sfweekly.com/issues/2004-11-17/film/film2.html

Politics aside, the movie's gotten excellent reviews. When it finally opens in Houston, I'll be glad to support the filmmakers. Not that it's any hardship to watch Liam Neeson in action. And--Tim Curry teaching a course on "abstinence and fear"--yow!

(I'm paraphrasing) "They are mad that there is not enough pedophilia in the movie!"

I'm talking about it. Try to stop me.

in an immoral and illegal war, solely for our own self-centered benefit: 1) killing innocents other countries so we do not have to fight the terrorists we create in our own country, and 2) using the poor or our own country as "fungible" cannon fodder.

As an aside: Is it just me or has Bush been walking funny since he had his man date?

should exercise their "personal responsibility" and choose not to see this movie.

... about this movie comes from it's debunking the myth of the traditional family of the 1950's. Kinsey did his research and produced his report in the 1950's. Even then, 1 in 6 farm boys admitted to having sex with one or more farm animals. The R's want to believe that the 60's and 70's destroyed some mythical "family values," but how can that be if people were as "perverted" in the 50's as they are now?

That's what this uproar is about. Kinsey effectively debunks a cherished right-wing myth.

-Laelth

you as the last post, and they've all been very well written, on point and to the point, beautifully summarized and capture the spirit of all preceding comments and tie up the thread in a nice little package.

Here's hoping you get stuck in the lounge posting Cat, Yak, or I just ______, Ask me anything! threads because you're taking up all the good points!!

:evilgrin:

Oh, and even though you're at 600 plus posts, welcome aboard.

And the welcome. :hi:

Don't worry, you can catch me spamming from time to time ... usually with absurd graphics.

All Hail Emperor BoohsCo!

(he hates sex too!)

-Laelth

was the veil of secrecy, which they conveniently named 'decency', that they could hide behind. It was 'indecent' to speak about such matters before the 80's talk shows brought it all out in the open for everyone to see. Never mind that the victim had no say so in being victimized--in fact, 'blame the victim' was the rule of the day.

Before that, people could get away with raping and torturing children because there was an effective machine in place that would shame the victim by making them feel that is was their fault all along and that they deserved what happened to them because they were 'bad'. There was never any effort to place the blame on the perpetrator... no one got up in the perp's face to shame him or to call him out on his behavior.

I thought invading and occupying a country under false pretenses, bombing children and old folks, the torture of innocent people, etc. would be more controversial. Guess I'll just NEVER get it right. NEVER, thank heaven, NEVER!

Why? Because without sex, there would be no families!!

The Christians who rave against movies and Hollywood and liberals couldn't survive without a bogey man. Who would they blame for all the ills of society. How would they rally their congregation to donate all that money if there wasn't some tangible evil thing out there threatening their very way of life...

It's the same old story repeated time after time after time...

There's trouble
Right here in River City...
That's trouble and it's spelled with t
and that rhymes with Pool
and that stands for trouble.....

With my apologies to the Music Man......

And oh my, what would we do without Bush.....

I am glad that you said this, because many of the conservative fundies are also rabid racists and anti-semites. "The Jews Control Hollywood" is
what we hear from the david dukes of the world.

And all the bruhaha over the Basketball fight and no mention at all over the constant brawling at Hockey Games......

They are fscked up!

On the other hand, I hope they continue their protest and get lots of media coverage. As we have seen with Fahrenheit 9/11, films boycotted by these ignorant extremists just makes people want to see them even more.

I won't stump for Kinsey. I have more than a few problems with the "work" the couple did.


But Ken Starr and the rest of that gang are the most sex-obsessed bunch of goons ever to inhabit the planet.


Like Newtie Gingrinch spouting off about morality when he's the king of "better living through illicit orgasms" club.

Or O'Liely talking family Values while he treats someone's else's daughter like a plaything. The fundies need to shut the hell up.

thousands of dead soldiers and Iraqi civilians? Nary a peep. Heaven forbid they see a woman in a towel on TV though. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

How oxyMORANic of them!

:eyes:

It's always been out there - on the sitcoms they watch and the porno they view during "business trips". :eyes:

Nothing like a little reactionary outrage to help sales.

Thanks, fundies, you fucking hopeless tards.

the patriarchy going. When you have war and violence as dominant themes it usually means male status is rising and female status is falling. When you have sexuality as a dominant theme in society it usually means women's power is ascending. This has been shown in all kinds of cross cultural anthropological studies.