Eight students slashed at Indiana high school

"A Valparaiso High School student pulled out two knives inside a classroom and sliced eight other students at the start of school Wednesday, police said. None of the injuries was believed to be life-threatening.

The student who committed the attack was in custody and the school about 20 miles southeast of Gary had been placed on lockdown, Valparaiso police spokesman Michael Grennes said. "

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6575855

WTF?

:shrug:

Violence is contagious and is pushed from the top down.

ego-maniacal, right-wing values.

Dominion.

Long before Bushism, America led the world in violence--the domestic product and the export.

Since 9/11, however, a genie is out of the bottle, new permissions are given, the Two Minutes' Hate is practiced thirty times an hour, and a seething people are churning more and more.

Only the community can stop the village idiot. Yet the right wing seeks the dissolution of common feeling for the perfection of individual wealth. Nobody is owed anything. There is no community. It's dog-eat-dog.

Children raised in this vicious ethos will, of course, become more savage mirrors of the elders. Call them the Youngest Republicans.

These are the rich, rich soils in which violence can grow. Hold on to your hat, friends, the long terrible ride is just starting.

in a sick, violent society.

You can almost guarantee it.

My eight year old daughter recently got in trouble at school for making an enemy list. No kidding, across the top it actually said "Enemy List". I asked her why these kids were her enemies. Every one of them was picking on her or being mean to her. One little girl actually told her that she is the ugliest little girl she's ever seen. I relayed all of this to the teacher, but to my knowledge, the little boogers had nothing done to them, not even a stern talk.

I used to get my ass kicked all the time, and felt like there was nothing I could really do but try to get a few hits in myself. The parents and all that just wouldn't do anything. If I had kids and one of them got deliberately hurt by someone, I'd be on the phone with their parents and maybe even threaten to sue if it happened again if I could.

Were these kids on psychotropic drugs?

The insitution you describe is in denial, and will do little to protect your daughter.

Alternatively, consult a lawyer soon.

Good luck.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PAZT
Parents Against Zero Tolerance
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OurChildrenLeftBehind/
Special Education Help
www.endzerotolerance.com
http://ztnightmares.com/index.htm
A non partisan web site. We are a group who
is for kids getting educated not castrated.
We have people from the religious right to
the liberal left, for the most part, in agreement.
There are many groups on Home Schooling in the
Yahoo groups as well.

Five years ago today, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold murdered their classmates and teachers at Columbine High School. Most Americans have reached one of two wrong conclusions about why they did it. The first conclusion is that the pair of supposed "Trench Coat Mafia outcasts" were taking revenge against the bullies who had made school miserable for them. The second conclusion is that the massacre was inexplicable: We can never understand what drove them to such horrific violence.

But the FBI and its team of psychiatrists and psychologists have reached an entirely different conclusion. They believe they know why Harris and Klebold killed, and their explanation is both more reassuring and more troubling than our misguided conclusions. Three months after the massacre, the FBI convened a summit in Leesburg, Va., that included world-renowned mental health experts, including Michigan State University psychiatrist Dr. Frank Ochberg, as well as Supervisory Special Agent Dwayne Fuselier, the FBI's lead Columbine investigator and a clinical psychologist. Fuselier and Ochberg share their conclusions publicly here for the first time.

The first steps to understanding Columbine, they say, are to forget the popular narrative about the jocks, Goths, and Trenchcoat Mafia—click here to read more about Columbine's myths—and to abandon the core idea that Columbine was simply a school shooting. We can't understand why they did it until we understand what they were doing.

The rest of the article is definitely worth your time.

http://slate.msn.com/id/2099203/

Personally, I found it rather convincing. But to each his own, I guess.

I will try to get back to it later for a more considered view. I will agree that there are psychopathic personalities in the human population, and some will manifest violently. Many, however, just become used car salesmen and U.S. presidents. It is still possible that bullying make these two go in the direction that they did.

I will admit that Slate rankles me at times, and I may have judged the article by the fact that it showed up there.

Ah, they like their knives in Indiana, do they not? And their beer!

(As an interesting footnote, do the math on the possible relative ages of the late "Rusty" and the daughter of the man he murdered.)




Bizarre homicide suicide in Orange County, Indiana

01:34 PM EST on Monday, November 22, 2004

ORLEANS, Ind. -- Indiana State Police are investigating a bizarre murder-suicide in Southern Indiana; a strange turn of events that began Friday night and ended early Saturday morning in Orange County.

Orleans is the kind of town where everyone knows everyone.

Russell Hall was known as "Rusty" and graduated with the Class of 1987. Seventeen years later he is nothing short of infamous.

According to Indiana State Police, it started with an altercation between Rusty and his girlfriend's father, 45-year-old Donald Campbell. Police say Rusty slashed Campbell's throat, tossed the body in the bed of his pickup truck and then drove to the Depot Tavern to throw back some beers.

"He was distraught and he was probably suicidal, I'd say," says Roger Blanton, owner of the Depot. Blanton says he has been close friends with Rusty for the better part of his life.

"He just said he had something bad happen. I didn't want to get into it because I was busy," says Blanton.

According to police, somebody told Rusty police were on the way to the bar. Keep in mind, authorities say Campbell's body was still sitting in the bed of Hall's pickup truck.

In a bizarre twist, Police say Hall dumped his girlfriend father's body at the Orleans Police Station.

"He was kind of like part of my family," says Rebecca Hackney, a friend. "My kid Rusty in his right mind would have never done this."

Others have said it is hard to understand what happened.

"He was a good-hearted person," says Lewis Williams, another friend. "When he wasn't drinking, you couldn't meet a kinder hearted person."

Hours later, after an extensive search, police say Hall shot and killed himself. Now his classmates and everyone else wonders what went wrong.

According to police, Rusty Hall's girlfriend was at the residence where Hall allegedly killed her father. She has not been arrested. The investigation is ongoing.

Web story produced by Jay Ditzer.

Shore, allus Hoosier red-state rednecks jist LUVS are Nifes, anna are hatchits, anna are koon-dawgs, annna are pick-em-up trux....

In fact, I was planning on making SURE that my J. A. Henckels Mod. 10-35 butcher knife is in primo razor-sharp condition for the duty I will be called upon to perform tomorrow....

Don't really care for Beer anymore, though...

Oh, to live in a MUCH more enlightened place than Indiana! Like, Oh, perhaps CALIFORNIA, where they elected a 'roid-eaten meat puppet instead of a corporate raider for Governor.....

The interesting aspect as it relates to our society might be the absolute contempt people have for each other and where in the hell that came from. Such a bunch of egomaniacs, we are.

I see this all too often, kids crack after being constantly harassed at school, with sometimes deadly consequences. Kids just don't treat each other with respect as peers in most cases, it's unfortunate.

wind 'em up and turn 'em loose

gawd bless Murka

I predicted more sickness and more violence under Little King George. People are not happy with this creep at the wheel.

Genuinely curious.

P.

;)

"There are lots of things that can hurt kids aside from guns. Therefore there's no problem with guns."

Great. Really great.

Tell me.........do you think more or less kids would have been injured if the attacker had been armed with a gun? How many would now be either dead or with life-threatening wounds?

I hang on, I forgot.....the other kids and the teacher should have had guns to stop him with, then they'd have all been safer.....

For the record, I don't think kids at school should have knives or guns or any other weapon with them....but hey, kids can stab someone with a pencil, so therefore guns aren't a risk, right?

:eyes:

The RW will use this incident as further justification for mental health screening.

Then they'll use the results of investigation into this case to call for mental health screening of parents of children who "fail" to display sufficient mental coping skills.

Then they'll decide maybe it's a good thing to screen people before they have children

Maybe then they'll decide some people should never have children at all.

Wheeee! This slippery slope is one helluva ride.

edit: why do I always catch the spelling error the moment I hit the "post" button?

And not just depression or AD/HD, even though those would be the majority.

There is no such thing as a "normal" person.

Knives don't kill, people do -- more effectively with guns.

Which would be terrible.

But its not very likely a student who "snaps" knows enough or is trained enough to do it.

A year or so ago, someone in New York killed a 6'7" 300 lb bouncer with a single stab wound. Cut his femoral artery.

It's for the children....

Whatever makes you happy..........

"There are lots of things that can hurt kids aside from guns. Therefore there's no problem with guns."

Great. Really great.

Tell me.........do you think more or less kids would have been injured if the attacker had been armed with a gun? How many would now be either dead or with life-threatening wounds?

I hang on, I forgot.....the other kids and the teacher should have had guns to stop him with, then they'd have all been safer.....

For the record, I don't think kids at school should have knives or guns or any other weapon with them....but hey, kids can stab someone with a pencil, so therefore guns aren't a risk, right?

:eyes:

has done this to our youth. Schools, like every other public place in AmeriKKKa are now Dimsons battlefields.

D.N.O.

They are only made for violence (to cut and sever things). First guns, now knives... next, it will be clubs, then we should ban those...

"There are lots of things that can hurt kids aside from guns. Therefore there's no problem with guns."

Great. Really great.

Tell me.........do you think more or less kids would have been injured if the attacker had been armed with a gun? How many would now be either dead or with life-threatening wounds?

I hang on, I forgot.....the other kids and the teacher should have had guns to stop him with, then they'd have all been safer.....

For the record, I don't think kids at school should have knives or guns or any other weapon with them....but hey, kids can stab someone with a pencil, so therefore guns aren't a risk, right?

:eyes:

Expect more incidents of violence in the coming bu$h years. Look at the hunters killed in Wisconsin, the man who set himself on fire at the WhiteHaus not long ago, the man who committed suicide at Ground Zero not long before that.

There is something in the collective conscience of America that knows we are seriously off the path now. An unimaginable amount of Dark Energy has been set loose by another stolen election and all the lies and murder that serve to maintain the lie.

Look for many more violent episodes like the Valparaiso slashings--and watch the Earth Herself join in the upheavals. Heil bu$h!

:freak:
dbt