2 Top Officials Are Reported to Quit C.I.A.

WASHINGTON, Nov. 24 - Two more senior officials of the Central Intelligence Agency's clandestine service are stepping down, intelligence officials said Wednesday, in the latest sign of upheaval in the agency under its new chief, Porter J. Goss.

As the chiefs of the Europe and Far East divisions, the two officials have headed spying operations in some of the most important regions of the world and were among a group known as the barons in the highest level of clandestine service, the Directorate of Operations.

The directorate has been the main target of an overhaul effort by Mr. Goss and his staff. Its chief, Stephen R. Kappes, and his deputy resigned this month after a dispute with the new management team.

An intelligence official said that the two division chiefs were retiring from the agency and that there would be no public announcement. Neither could be named, the official said, because they are working under cover.

A former intelligence official described the two as "very senior guys" who were stepping down because they did not feel comfortable with new management.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/25/politics/25intel.html?hp&ex=1101358800&en=e050d43a41b9a462&ei=5094&partner=homepage

chicanery of the bush administration.

...can gather and keep the rest of us apprised of their well being. I also hope they are writing their memoirs or publishing books. The corruption and influence by powerful people over the entire structure needs to be exposed and beaten down.

and have their food carefully prepared.

I have a good friend who is a journalist who worked on the BCCI story back in the 1980s. He met with former spooks. Two things to keep in mind: These people never "retire," they take other work and for some wierd reason, they go live in Kentucky (nothing against Kentucky--it would be wierd if there were any other place where they all ended up going).

1. Porter Goss is incompetent.

2. bush/cheney/rumsfeld/rice/wolfowtiz/hadley are dangerously incompetent

Come on, spooks, you know where the bodies are buried. Get out there and start rattling some skeletons.

pretty please?

... then he can't be frightened. We all know he's dangerous, but he's really, really dangerous if he's not afraid to alienate 2 senior spooks from the Operations side of the CIA. This news is truly disturbing.

-Laelth

the only effect this seems to have is to let the rightwing nutcases have their way completely. we need some sympathetic people inside as well.

if this is good news or bad news.

The CIA really ought to be dismantled
and it is curious to see that Dubya feels he is man enough to do it.

On the other hand,
the FBI-CIA has functioned as the Preatorian Guard
for the Head of the American Empire.
Maybe Dubya should have looked more closely into how Claudius Ceasar came into power.
But then again, that all was before Diebold.

We live in interesting times.....

It is being restructured to provide the intelligence to serve bush's agenda.

We do live in interesting times ...

isn't that an old Irish curse?

eom

with bipartisan support I may add, and he brings his Capitol Hill cronies with him, you can expect the professionals at the agency to quit or retire in great numbers. We couldn't have done better had we put Osama bin Laden in charge of CIA.

I would love to see Rumsfeld and his gang of merry neocons leave the Pentagon for good, but not at the expense of having someone like Porter Goss replace Rumsfeld. Goss will destroy the professionalism of the CIA and turn it into a bull horn for the White House. Strangely, Goss is going to outdo former CIA Director George Tenant in incompetence.

now Gorter Pus will put his repubgestapo plants in to take their place.

The United States is very rapidly going to nazi hell in a handbasket.

The hostilities began last month, when Goss tried to install a former CIA analyst named
Michael Kostiw as the agency's executive director, the No. 3 spot. Someone-likely a CIA official
who opposed Kostiw's appointment-leaked an embarrassing tidbit to The Washington Post: years
earlier Kostiw had been accused of shoplifting. It was enough to derail Kostiw's appointment. The
sabotage infuriated Murray, who stormed into the office of the CIA's chief of counterintelligence, a
respected undercover official known as "Mary." According to two people familiar with the
encounter, Murray told her the leaks had to stop, and put her in charge of making sure they did. If
there were any more damaging leaks about future Goss appointments, Murray warned her, "I am
going to hold you personally responsible." Mary's boss, Michael Sulick, and Sulick's boss,
Stephen Kappes, confronted Murray. "Look, don't treat us like we're Democratic staffers on the
Hill," Sulick told Murray, according to a source familiar with the meeting. Murray responded by
ordering Kappes to fire Sulick. Kappes refused. Instead, both Sulick and Kappes resigned last
week. The men received a five-minute standing ovation from CIA employees. Goss and Murray
declined to comment, but people close to them say there are others at the agency who should
fear for their jobs. http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/112204D.shtml

now its tin-foil-hat-theory-time. The CIA is in the midst of a war, one side is run by Papa Bush, this he has controlled since the late seventies. The other side, i don't know, but seems just an amorphous group. The announcement of the huge increase in hiring is a warning shoot to the other side to get back in line and keep quiet or else. This coincided with the downing of the plane in Heuston as a warning to Papa Bush. These are indeed interesting times, watch out for many more odd coincidences occuring in the news over the next two months.

by the way b*sh and his cronies are running things. To the point of quitting their jobs. :scared:

while Goss packs the CIA with partisan hacks. The CIA will become another propaganda arm of the White House, just as Condi Rice will do the same at the State Department.