Dupe - sorry :(

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2026&ncid=716&e=28&u=/latimests/20041125/ts_latimes/guardsmensaytheyrefacingiraqilltrained

DOÑA ANA RANGE, N.M. — Members of a California Army National Guard battalion preparing for deployment to Iraq (news - web sites) said this week that they were under strict lockdown and being treated like prisoners rather than soldiers by Army commanders at the remote desert camp where they are training.

More troubling, a number of the soldiers said, is that the training they have received is so poor and equipment shortages so prevalent that they fear their casualty rate will be needlessly high when they arrive in Iraq early next year. "We are going to pay for this in blood," one soldier said.

They said they believed their treatment and training reflected an institutional bias against National Guard troops by commanders in the active-duty Army, an allegation that Army commanders denied.

The 680 soldiers of the 1st Battalion of the 184th Infantry Regiment were activated in August and are preparing for deployment at Doña Ana, a former World War II prisoner-of-war camp 20 miles west of its large parent base, Ft. Bliss, Texas.

Members of the battalion, headquartered in Modesto, said in two dozen interviews that they were allowed no visitors or travel passes, had scant contact with their families and that morale was terrible.

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please discuss here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1020960#1021404

That the troops are well trained, well equipped and ready for the mission.

These guys are either totally delusional or they are purposely trying to destroy America. Who needs Osama, when you've got BushCo?

Question 1: Why Doña Ana and not Ft. Bliss? I would think we have enough bases, since most of the Reserves are over in Iraq, to train our troops.

Question 2: Is a new technique, psych-op, to keep our troops from speaking out? Or is it a training camp on Abu Ghraib Prisoner Torture 101 and Prisoner Torture 201: How to contain leaks.

Question 3: Is Rumsfield and The Military forgetting the lies they told us.

When will this madness stop. Maybe if we all click our shoes three times we can go back home to Pre-B* II.