Breaking on CNN... Iraqi Official says a chemical weapons lab found

in Fallujah.

I'll look for a link

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - A laboratory for the manufacture of chemical weapons was found in Falluja after a U.S. offensive to drive out guerrillas who had controlled the Iraqi city, Minister of State Kassim Daoud said on Thursday.



"Soldiers from the Iraqi National Guard found a chemical laboratory that was used to prepare deadly explosives and poisons," Daoud told a news conference. "They also found in the lab booklets and instructions on how to make bombs and poisons. They even talked about the production of anthrax."


On Wednesday, Marines in Falluja said they had found a banner of the insurgent group led by Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in a chemicals laboratory in Falluja. But they said there was no indication the lab was used to produce chemical weapons.


It was not clear whether Daoud was referring to the same laboratory. Marines said on Thursday they were not aware of any additional laboratories being discovered.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20041125/ts_nm/iraq_chemicals_dc&cid=564&ncid=1480



Looks like the Iraqi Minister are recycling the same lab with "banner". :eyes:

A laboratory for the manufacture of chemical weapons was found in Falluja after a U.S. offensive to drive out guerrillas who had controlled the Iraqi city, Iraqi Minister of State Kassim Daoud said on Thursday.

"Soldiers from the Iraqi National Guard found a chemical laboratory that was used to prepare deadly explosives and poisons," Daoud told a news conference. "They also found in the lab booklets and instructions on how to make bombs and poisons. They even talked about the production of anthrax."

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20041125/ts_nm/iraq_chemicals_dc_1

news item 'credibility of the u. s. goes further down the crapper'

right after reports of US forces using chemical weapons in Fallujah come out?I tend to not believe countries that start illegal wars(but thats just me?)Why are we so stupid?

Or was it some other sort of precursor,like an old packet of castor bean seeds? Of course there could be some new things being put together by the resistance which weren't there before.

I've got some bleach,some ammonia,and some chemistry books too. Now if only I had the country with the world's second largest oil reserves.

than in the pics I saw of that "Lab" better set up too, I'll bet.

Hear that CNN???

...they found some tunnels going straight into Syria!

in a closet in Falluja.

and the mal-administration had to have some "laboratories", we (the US) have created the will and the ability.

I suppose that the US doesn't have any "laboratories" cooking up weapons to be used against the Iraqis?

Nah... we're too good for that /sarcasm

*YAWN*

Beakers of Mass Destruction... scarySCARY!

lmao...so cute, looks like my old dog that was a Wheaton terrier.

...one of the super-sized ones (Oorang). He's 90 lbs of pure energy.:)

HAVE A HAPPY THANKSGIVING AND MAKE SURE YOUR DOG GETS SOME TURKEY TOO! :toast:

uh, oh . . .

the story never claims to have found any actual chemicals. It's all spin, our Thanksgiving blessing from Karl Rove. Couldn't do the plastic turkey again this year.

Suprised there are no rape rooms or unplugged baby incubators.

how Shrub says "rape rooms" with undisguised relish?

of the big fight in motor city, while this chemical weapons lab story cooks some more?

"Zarqawi" was known to play with ricin, expecially in the Ansar-al-Islam camp in kurdish controlled Iraq that Bush refused to bomb before the invasion for fear that it would weaken the case for war against Hussein.

lap dog media

in protective gear??

"Soldiers from the Iraqi National Guard found a chemical laboratory that was used to prepare deadly explosives and poisons," Minister of State Kassim Daoud told a news conference.


"They also found in the lab booklets and instructions on how to make bombs and poisons. They even talked about the production of anthrax."


On Wednesday, Marines in Falluja said they had found a banner of the insurgent group led by Jordanian al Qaeda ally Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in a chemicals laboratory in Falluja.


But they said there was no indication the lab was used to produce chemical weapons.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20041125/ts_nm/iraq_chemicals_dc&cid=564&ncid=1480

We found the lab, but it really isn't there, but it's there if you squint your eyes so it's proof that there was WMD.

:eyes:

This "revelation" was designed for an American market.

would have been too obvious and really fuck up Thanksgiving Day travel. This is much more subtle and insidious. Also, gives a lot of people somthing to talk about over Turkey. Bite me, Karl!

The dozens of Meth Labs in rural southern Iowa?

Even IF these chemicals were found, which the article doesn't specify, these types of chemicals were known to be in possession of the Iraqi government in 1991. I am getting sick and tired of hearing how "weapons of mass destruction" were found whenever a cache with a dozen shells loaded with ricin or vx are found. This administration went to war preemptively with Iraq based on Iraq's developing NUCLEAR INTERCONTINENTAL BALLISTIC MISSILES program which were a direct threat to the United States. /end sarcasm

edit: spelling

bush* would announce it during his turdkey dinner if true. bullshit.

I mean if you have an artillery shell but no artillery piece to fire it.

just a false alarm. They will blare the alarm and then whisper the All Clear. Meanwhile more people will believe Bush's lie.

CNN is "librul media"? MY BUTT!

Cable News never issues corrections, or updates, when vaunted GOP-supporting evidence is disproved.

Daoud is also a soulless abomination, but that's another story for another day

Before the war, when Zarqawi was in Northern Iraq (within the no-fly zone and essentially under American jurisdiction), we knew he was playing with chemical and biological weapons (for example, the ricin found in France and England in 2002-03 originated with Zarqawi).

The U.S. government had at least 3 opportunities to take out Zarqawi and HIS WMD operation before the war and declined so we could use his presence as another pretext for taking out Saddam - even though he had absolutely nothing to do with Saddam.

So if they found a WMD lab in Falluja, don't be surprised. And remember that these WMDs have absolutely nothing to do with any of Saddam's WMDs that we supposedly went to war over. Their presence only goes to show how the "Coalition", not Saddam, made Iraq into a terrrorist haven.

:eyes:

So there were no WMD labs before we went in and now they are popping up so the insurgents can use WMDs against our troops.

Great job, George. Thanks for making us safer.

Is the same as the labs found shortly after the invasion that WERE NOT LABS at all?

... make bombs and poisons.", i'm new at this terrorist thing and don't know what to do. thanks.

Remember the tons and tons of high explosive powder that went missing? I've got a very good hunch that this "chemical weapons lab" is in fact a simple processing facility, turning that powder into a useable plastic explosive for improvised explosive devices.

There's no point in listening to what the US or its Iraqi hand-puppet says the facility is--if it is a HE powder processing facility then you can bet they'll say anything to distract from that, while thumping the "WMD" drum. But for those of us in the reality-based community, this find is probably not evidence of pre-invasion chemical weapons, it rather could be primary evidence of the monumental incompetence of the Bush administration.

It doesn't really matter now. Our boys and girls are going to continue to die propping up a shantytown of deceit and greed, and our moronic brethren will continue to see what they want to see as the next act of the political theatre opens.

:eyes:

nonsense makes the grade?

In other news, Bigfoot sighted.

You don't produce anthrax in a chemical weapons lab, as weaponized anthrax is the spore form of the anthrax bacteria, a biological weapon. You need a biological lab, complete with fume hoods, incubators, growth media, sterile working conditions, etc, just to grow the stuff. THEN you need to purify it into a readily dispersed form, which is the really hard part. These are things that you cannot physically do in your basement. Recall the weaponized anthrax outbreak in the Soviet Union, in the 1970's, I believe? Someone forgot to put a screen back in the processor and hundreds were infected as anthrax spores flew out over the city. You expect me to believe that a few dozen insurgent scientists would be able to produce anthrax in sterile conditions in Fallujah of all places without killing themselves and everyone within a few blocks of the lab?

Thanks!

Voting scandal is about to break!!!!

n/t

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I mean, really isn't this the 1st reason * gave for the march to war. The US has had hunters of chemical depots on the ground before the war started. But then again, the US left most of the facilites unguarded, had to reallocate forces to make sure the Oil facilities were guarded. Of course now it's democracy and freedom. But back to the topic, if chemical weapons were found (Marines know nothing about this site, BTW) have they been used? will they be used? And why the hell aren't the troops in full chemical protection gear????

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Qassem Dawoud said the lab was found in the southwestern district of Fallujah, where pockets of insurgents are still holding out following the Nov. 8 assault by American and Iraqi forces.


"We also found in the laboratory manuals and instructions spelling out procedures for making explosives," he said. "They also spoke about making anthrax."


Dawoud showed pictures of a shelf containing what he said were various chemicals.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&ncid=540&e=11&u=/ap/20041125/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_chemical_lab

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It took them all this time to plant the stuff there?

Rats. We should be a lot more efficient than that when planting evidence.

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that's the first thought i had, oldleftielawyer.

an article on this a few days back. Showed some pictures. Gave a quick rundown on the chemicals, with a quip from the tour-provider that it could be used to produce a cyanide compound he called "blood agent", absorbable by contact with skin (with prolonged exposure) or by air.

But it was also careful to say that there was no evidence that the compound had actually been produced.

But it got me to thinking about something I had read the week before the assault on Fallujah began; the source (Arab News? Dawn?) cited a rebel leader as saying that if the Americans went into Fallujah, they'd be greeted with attacks using cyanide.

or does everybody realize that it is undoubtedly a faked lab to justify our criminal invasion.

nt

on bullets goes on without comment.

The soldiers with "Gulf War Syndrome" from the first war were all exposed to du (that's "depleted uranium," not to be confused with "DU"), and their symptoms have been conclusively linked to the contuing practice of using bullets coated with this stuff. Now, soldiers coming home from Iraq are already showing signs of the same illnesses.

And, it gets into your DNA, so the next generations will be affected, as well.

So far, the only publication to go deeply into this is - of all things - Vanity Fair. Graydon Carter is turning out to be a true hero.

.. that was very disturbing.