Bush Seeks Money for Abstinence Education ("We don't need a study...")

WASHINGTON -- President Bush's re-election insures that more federal money will flow to abstinence education that precludes discussion of birth control, even as the administration awaits evidence that the approach gets kids to refrain from sex.

Congress last weekend included more than $131 million for abstinence programs in a $388 billion spending bill, an increase of $30 million but about $100 million less than Bush requested. Meanwhile, a national evaluation of abstinence programs has been delayed, with a final report not expected until 2006.

Ten state evaluations, compiled by a group that opposes abstinence-only education, showed little change in teens' behavior since the start of abstinence programs in 1997.

The president has been a strong proponent of school-based sexual education that focuses on abstinence, but does not include instruction on safe sex.

"We don't need a study, if I remember my biology correctly, to show us that those people who are sexually abstinent have a zero chance of becoming pregnant or getting someone pregnant or contracting a sexually transmitted disease," said Wade Horn, the assistant secretary of Health and Human Services in charge of federal abstinence funding.

http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-second-term-abstinence,0,7350894.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines

ask him how abstinence ed, worked for his daughters ..

Weirdos.

I guess it was HARD for Neil to practice Abstinence when he had a teenage oriental hooker behind every door!

I pretty sure they don't want THIS one, it shows states that allow teaching about contraception have a lot LOWER number of teen pregnancies than Texas--a state that pushes only abstinence. So what we WILL have is the neocons doing their "own study" just to make it it look like they should be shoving their abstinence only teaching into our schools

http://tinyurl.com/4dqlm


As of May 1, only 14 states required contraception to be covered in sex education, and 21 states required that abstinence be stressed, according to SIECUS, a nonprofit that promotes education about contraceptives.

The numbers put out by SIECUS indicate that of the 14 states that mandate contraception be covered, nine of the five have teen birth rates that fall below the national average. The national teen birth rate is 45 per 1,000 women ages 15-19. Maine, with one of the most comprehensive sex education programs in the nation, has a birth rate of 27 per 1,000, whereas it is 66 per 1,000 in Texas. Delaware, which mandates that both abstinence and contraceptives be covered if sex education has been taught, has a birth rate of 44 per 1,000.In Maryland, which mandates that sex education cover contraceptives, the birth rate is 38 per 1000 women.

...I cant speak for it does for the prostate...

These folks have truly gone over the edge- 1st it was the propaganda that led to the war in Iraq-

They are going to tell teenagers to "forget" about sex???!!!

Now THAT will be a REAL feat of propaganda!!!

they think that their propaganda has worked with the stupid for electing them and will work to keep them from having sex. which of course they actually want them to have sex to make a lot more cannon fodder and brainwashed puppets.

I can...
Recent studies suggest a link between lack of sexual activity and later prostate cancer.

that absinence leads to HIGHER levels of STD's.

higher abortion rates, and and and...

People forget what it was like in the 1950's... the standard way a boy proposed to his girlfriend was "You're WHAT!" The news was often delivered with his father in law to be in earshot, armed.

Sex before marriage was not invented in the 1960's. It's older than that by several millinia.

longer to have it, but when they do they don't protect themselves or use contraception. So the end up eventually having a higher rate of STDs

Obviously, if nobody had sex on the planet, there would be no pregnancies. So to say "abstinence leads to STDs" is technically to say something untrue.

However... idiots who advocate only for abstinence education and not for ACTUAL SEX ED don't understand that teens will have sex no matter what, and the only way to stop the problems of teen pregnancy and STD contraction is to educate, educate, EDUCATE!!

what a dumb bastard. Wonder who is behind this bullshit now? More fundie crap?

High School? I bring this thing up because nuts like this usually are caught up in contradictions between their own lives and the "values" they want to promote.

The only difference is we don't force people to marry someone they don't love and have no intention of committing to.

maybe their imagine by "eleminating" out of marriage sex they can look for virgin birth and locate jesus. :+

to come up with something like this

And what they won't mention is the failure rate for vows of abstinence. Nor will they mention the increase in abortions that this invariably leads to. Nor the increase in young families in poverty that results from the converse.

Maybe they can start a new lobbying organization just especially for this. Call it "Unplanned Parenthood". God, someone take the keys from these morons before they do any more damage.


MDN

why do we hit puberty and get sexual urges at a certain age?

he got it from hookers in Thailand- it was reported during his divorce a couple of years ago.

that's why they've never had problems they're 22 and 24 year old virgins:eyes:

but they keep needing to re-study the global warming issue, despite the growing evidence and the near consensus among scientists.

:wtf:

Those we got.

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But whether number of disasters (STD's and unwanted pregnancies) are increasing. For example, abstinence only ed. five refrain from sex, five do not but four of those get an STD or the girl gets pregnant. Abstinence recommended but contraception and disease prevention information taught, four refrain from sex, but of the six who are sexually active only two get an STD and one gets pregnant. Which program is a success? Depends on how you define "success." If success is an increase in the number of celibate teenagers, then abstinence only. If success is defined as a healthier outcome for more adolescents, then number 2. Actual numbers may vary--LOL. For religious conservatives the one (multiply as desired) extra disaster is worth it because the goal is to increase the number of celibate-until-marriage young people. What ever happened to the Joy of Sex? We sure have come a long way, baby.

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The push for abstinence is one of several Bush policies popular with religious conservatives. Also topping the agenda: the faith-based initiative, which aims to open more government programs to religious groups. That push will continue into a second term, said Jim Towey, who directs the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives.

"This is a culture change in the way the government provides social services," he said in an interview. "It's a change to recognize if we really want to help our poor, we want to give them some choice of programs and providers."

Before you know it, all the saftey net programs will be funneled through churches.

Have sex, ooooohhh, you might get pregnant or get a disease!

Yeah, that's the way to develop a good healthy attitude about something as life-affirming as sexuality.

I tell kids not to get sexually involved because it's too distracting and they have enough to cope with, they don't need an additional emotional entanglement in their lives.

We have the bible.

Ask the average adolescent what abstinanace means and they will tell you it means the absence of intercourse and they engage in oral sex instead. I should know, they tell me all the time.

fucking dickwad

abortion you got your girlfriend in High school?

thoughts." (Simpson, that is)

Are we insane yet?

That should turn off the hormones...

OK ladies, remember what they taught you in health class. Put a penny between your legs when you go out on a date and better not let it drop. If I remember correctly I think us guys had to take a cold shower (kind of hard in the middle of a date). And the good news is we can pass on all these wonderful lessons to our children. Even better our children will get to learn the new ABCs of sex.

A = Always practice Abstinence
B = Be faithful to each other
C = If your urges are too strong, use a Condom.

On a serious note, I guess we can look forward to the rise of teen pregnancies again, especially in the Moral Red States. I think he really needs to talk to his kids about the truth of teen sex. My cousin went to the same high school as the B* twins when he was Gov in Texas. He was asked to tutor them in math. Lets say, they would have failed on the ABC method. IF B* CAN"T KEEP HIS OWN KIDS FROM HAVING TEEN SEX, HOW IN THE HELL DOES HE THINK ABSTINENCE EDUCATION KEEP OTHER TEENS FROM HAVING SEX.

Yeah, looks like our textbooks down here approved by the STATE VIOLATE the TX state law requiring sex ed classes to teach more than abstinence...lots of good it does to have the pill/condom info in the "TEACHER'S edition"...

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=16101

Although critics have said that the textbooks violate state regulations that require sex education curricula to include information on contraceptives, board members said that the books meet the regulation because information on contraceptives is included in teacher editions and supplements included with the books, Reuters reports (Reuters, 11/5).

The Texas Board of Education on Friday approved four high school health textbooks that promote abstinence-only sex education and make only "passing mention" of contraception, "which critics say violates state regulations and endangers the health of teens," Reuters reports (Herskovitz, Reuters, 11/5).

have to cost $131 million? Just asking....

You'd think not talking about something would lessen the cost, wouldn't you?

:crazy:

"Study? We don't need no steenkin' study!"

or the US of Annoyance.

of hormones coarsing through his body when he'd fuck anything he could catch.

But, he's a Christian so I'm sure he never dallied.

I think that democrats should not be in a position that goes against the abstinence program for teens. This will take away lots of parents'vote from them, imo.

if we have to become repukes to do so?

...etc...are more important agenda for democrats. These are not repukes issues.

Take baby steps.

falls under education and health care both, does it not?

the giggling murderer. Just look at him (if you can). Ugly, dumb, fickinh basturd, isn't he? Plus, we want NO more like him, EVER.

...is quickly becoming reality. I fear for this country.

My parents told me to abstain. Did it work? No.

Watch for sales of contraceptives to rise.

""We don't need a study, if I remember my biology correctly, to show us that those people who are sexually abstinent have a zero chance of becoming pregnant or getting someone pregnant or contracting a sexually transmitted disease," said Wade Horn, the assistant secretary of Health and Human Services in charge of federal abstinence funding."

No, fuck-wit, we need a study to show that not teaching kids about safe-sex decreases teen pregnancy. That is the point, is it not?

I have to wonder what this moron's salary is.

Suppressing sexual urges as BushCo would all like us to do inevitably leads to Republicans being outed for some freaky sexcapade. Getting caught with their pants down is a regular occurrence.

'Splain something to me please. Why are Republicans so po'd about Janet Jackson's breast being exposed, yet apparently have no problem with all the commercials for "boner" pills that talk frankly about erections and sexual activity?

Do they instinctively know that the Republican Party is bought and paid for by the pharmaceutical companies?

Just wondering.