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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 05:13 AM
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Bomb blast hits US military convoy
Bomb blast hits US military convoy
28/11/2004 - 10:02:16

A car bomb exploded early today near a US military convoy on the road leading to Baghdad airport, Iraqi police said.

US troops immediately sealed off the area, said Lt Saad el-Azzawi. He said it was not immediately clear whether the blast caused any casualties.

But Fadhil Jawad, who said he saw the attack from his home near the site of the attack, said the explosion destroyed two of the six Humvees in the convoy. He said two Blackhawk helicopters arrived immediately after and evacuated a number of wounded soldiers.

The US military had no immediate comment.
(snip/...)

http://www.breakingnews.ie/2004/11/28/story177909.html
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 05:33 AM
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1. more victims of the BFEE
I am disgusted
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 08:47 AM
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2. Never any news
Except when the coffins arrive at home and a Rambo wannabee is placed in a cold forgotten grave.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 08:43 PM
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23. how long before the American people start to care, saigon?
is this really another Viet Nam? Have they forgotten so quickly? Maybe they need to do that travelling wall thing again - I blubbered my eyes out when I saw it at the Austin state capitol in Texas - had to leave - the sheer number of names, the notes, the photos - it was overwhelming.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 08:53 AM
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3. no comment usually means...
multiple casualties admitted to later....:(
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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 09:14 AM
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4. Here's some news: They stayed to die
How can centcom and the pentagon face the world in a
news conference and say fallujah is lost when they have
been lying in the last 2 weeks and have been telling the
world that they control all of fallujah except for some
small pockets of resistance?

1-US forces obviously never controlled or were able to
occupy southern fallujah as IRRhas told us over and over
again in the last 2 weeks

2- US defeated forces are trying to flee through the eastern
part of fallujah and are being ambushed and picked off by the
IR inside and outside of fallujah who are waiting for
them.

3- Many many more IR resistance fighters are pouring in
from western side of fallujah to kill as many american as
they can get their hands on who are trapped in the
north eastern, eastern and north central part of
fallujah

4- Americans can not fly attack helicopters because too many
of them have been shut down by IR.

5- US soldier moral is low, ammunitation is low, fuel is low,
food is low.

In a telephone conversation with al-Jazeera satellite TV
on Saturday, Shaykh ‘Abd as-Salam al-Kubaysi, the Chief of
the Public Relations Department of the Board of Muslim
‘Ulama’ Scholars (Mossad is looking to kill this guy)
in Iraq said that “until now, more than half
of al-Fallujah is in the hands of the al-Fallujah
Resistance.”
Shaykh al-Kubaysi ridiculed US boasts about their “wiping
out” Resistance in the city, telling al-Jazeera that the US now
is in “difficult straits” in the city. “At the beginning they
were attacking,” al-Kubaysi said, “but now they are on
the defensive.”
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 12:08 PM
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17. got a link or did you just make that stuff up?
?
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 12:36 PM
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22. Baghdad Bob!!!!! Is that you???!!!!!
That IS you!!!!
I recognize the voice!!!!

I was wondering what happened to you!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 09:19 AM
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5. Another Link:Baghdad Car Bomb Destroys Two Humvees
~snip~

US troops immediately sealed off the area, said Lt. Saad el-Azzawi. He said it was not immediately clear whether the blast caused any casualties.

But Fadhil Jawad, who said he saw the attack from his home near the site of the attack, said the explosion destroyed two of the six Humvees in the convoy. He said two Blackhawk helicopters immediately after and evacuated a number of wounded soldiers.

The highway leading from downtown to the international airport is considered one of the most dangerous stretches of road in Iraq for US troops. Insurgents regularly target military convoys and combat patrols on the busy thoroughfare, which cuts through central Baghdad.

On Saturday, another bomb detonated near two armoured buses on the road, damaging both but causing no casualties.

http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=3814292
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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 09:19 AM
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6. IRR 112704
Edited on Sun Nov-28-04 09:20 AM by jmcgowanjm
US invaders continue retreating from al-Fallujah, held up only by constant Resistance attacks.

In a new development on the al-Fallujah front, members of
the Iraqi Resistance have begun to flow towards the city
from surrounding regions to take part in an effort to cleanse
the city of American occupation troops currently present in
the northern part of al-Fallujah.

The Mafkarat al-Islam correspondent in the city reported in
a dispatch posted at 1pm Saturday Mecca time that on
Saturday the western part of al-Fallujah had fallen into the
hands of the Resistance. Resistance forces were attacking
the buildings atop which US snipers have been perched in
the western part of the city and on the main
thoroughfare ar-Ramadi Street that divides the northern half
of al-Fallujah from the southern half.

The correspondent emphasized that the Resistance
had extended its control over the main street in al-Fallujah
and on the western parts of the city.

US troops, meanwhile are attempting to withdraw from
eastern parts of al-Fallujah, but they are coming under
repeated Resistance ambushes.

The correspondent reported that nevertheless, the
US withdrawal from al-Fallujah was underway starting
Friday and until 9:30am Saturday. At that point
Resistance ambushes outside the city on the 15km-long road
to al-Habbaniyah brought the US pullout to a
halt.

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 09:22 AM
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7. Looks like Mercs were hit earlier on the same road...
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-11/28/content_2269903.htm

~snip~

Earlier witnesses said a convoy of several sports utility vehicles (SUV) were hit in a bomb blast and at least two cars were seen damaged.

Four-wheel drive SUVs were usually used by senior officials or western contractors.

The airport road has been a scene of frequent attacks on US patrols and civilian convoys. The group led by al-Qaida linked militant Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi sometimes claimed responsibility for the ambushes. Enditem
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 10:48 AM
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8. I think this is the same "incident" (with a pic):

BAGHDAD, Iraq — An insurgent vehicle-borne improvised explosive device detonated on Baghdad’s airport road at about 9:30 a.m. Nov. 27, damaging two up-armored military shuttle buses.

No casualties were reported from the incident.

The blast damaged both buses. One bus needed to be towed from the site, closing the road to traffic for roughly 90 minutes.

The incident is under investigation.


http://iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=31875
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 10:54 AM
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9. "An insurgent vehicle-borne improvised explosive device "
sheesh... wouldn't 'car bomb' be easier?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 11:06 AM
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10. Not technical sounding enough.
In VietNam they used stakes smeared with "fecal matter" against us.
But it's not acceptable for the mighty US military to be threatened
by stakes smeared with "fecal matter", so would they be called "ground-mounted
passively-activiated improvised biological warfare devices (GPIBD)"
today instead.

(I just made that acronym up, but you get the idea, it's the "We're
in control, no matter how fucked up things are" syndrome. Defense
"thinkers" just looooove acronyms, because they think it sounds like
they are knowledgeable that way.)
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 11:31 AM
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15. lol....
thank you for the clarification bemildred. By the way, do you think Iraq is considered officially FUBAR by the military types yet?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 12:04 PM
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16. Military types think what they are told to think, mostly.
Edited on Sun Nov-28-04 12:17 PM by bemildred
Grunts aren't supposed to think much at all. But when you get
officer types to think about it and express that, you get variations
on "yes, it's all FUBAR".

This one for instance:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1027085

BROWN: Just one final big-picture question. You've been in and out of there for two years. You'll be back in there probably sooner than you want. Do you have a sense that, on the military side, progress is being made?

WARE: To put it simply, no. No, I don't. I mean, I don't have any sense of victory or a sense that the coalition, that the West is winning right now.

I mean, it seems to me we're losing ground, figuratively and literally. Just from my own example, six -- nine months ago, I could travel the breadth of Iraq. Sure, it was dangerous, it was risky, but it was calculated. Then that ceased. And I was restricted to Baghdad itself. And the only way I could leave Baghdad was if the insurgents took me and guaranteed my safety.

Now I can't leave my compound. Kidnap teams circle my house. And even in my compound, they mortar, drop bombs on our house. And in parts of Baghdad itself, the U.S. military has lost control. The terrorists of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi control entire quarters of suburbs. One of them, Haifa Street, the most famous, is within mortar range of the U.S. Embassy itself. And every day, we're creating more recruits for the insurgents, and every day more young men from outside Iraq, from the Muslim world agree, the disenfranchised, they're rising up and coming to join the fight, to blood themselves.

Right now, we are the midwives of the next generation of jihad, of the next al Qaeda. So the very thing that the administration says it went there to prevent, it is creating. And despite the honor and the bravery and the uncommon valor that I see among the American boys there in uniform who are fighting this grinding war day to day, when I see them dying in front of me, I can't help but think that perhaps they're dying in vain, because we're making the nightmare that we're trying to prevent.


But Shinseki, who is not a big creative military thinker, said it was
stupid before they started and was fired for his trouble. What are the
odds anybody serious thinks he had it wrong now?
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 12:11 PM
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19. You screwed up that link
it goes to your reply process
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 12:18 PM
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20. Figures.
Edited on Sun Nov-28-04 12:18 PM by bemildred
One time you forget to check, and it's hosed.
Thanks for the headsup.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 12:31 PM
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21. Thanks for the link. Excellent interview with Ware. He's very sound.
Hope there's a decent chance he will survive the war without serious injury or worse. Courageous. An actual "compassionate" man in a world with at least one bogus compassionate man.

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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 11:07 AM
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11. ignore Iraq....move along..go shopping!


"we dont care about Iraq, all we want to do is shop..!"
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 11:20 AM
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13. Great photo, Mari333. Nothing should interfere with lotsa shopping,24/7.
Another article on Fallujah:
Five including 2 US marines killed in Iraq
Pakistan Times Monitoring Desk

BAGHDAD (Iraq): Three people died and about a dozen were injured on Saturday in three separate explosions in Baghdad, police and hospital sources said.

On central al-Rasheed Street, two people were killed and at least 10 injured when an explosive device concealed in a pushcart went off near the Central Bank as two US Humvees drove through the area, police Lt Col Jamal Abbas Abd said.

The two who died were passers-by, while most of the injured were guards at the bank, he said.

Four stores adjacent to the bank were damaged, Abd said, adding the bomb was hidden underneath old electrical appliances in the cart.

Separately, a US military vehicle was damaged by a roadside bomb on the highway near Baghdad International Airport, eyewitnesses said.
(snip/...)
http://pakistantimes.net/2004/11/28/top1.htm
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 11:07 AM
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12. were gettin that oil though
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 11:24 AM
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14. How does this article fit in?Are they assuming the U.S. owns Fallujah now?
Posted on Sun, Nov. 28, 2004


U.S. shifts focus from Fallujah to southern towns

By John F. Burns
NEW YORK TIMES

CAMP KALSU, Iraq - As U.S. commanders turn their concentration toward the area of sullen towns and villages that straddle the southern approaches to Baghdad, they face a battle that is in many ways as crucial to their hopes as Fallujah has been.And they enter a battleground where loyalties to Saddam Hussein and the burning enmity for America are at least as intense.

Without a major success in the south, the battle for Fallujah, 50 miles to the northwest, could come to be seen as a Pyrrhic victory, one that reduced much of the city to rubble, cost more than 50 U.S. combat deaths and prompted many insurgents to move on and regroup for yet more chapters in an ever-lengthening war.

The first days of the new campaign suggest it may outstrip Fallujah in the demands it will make on U.S. patience and tactical skills.

Once again, Marines are leading the fight here with the best of Iraq's American-trained troops alongside them.But in this area, known for its ceaseless round of suicide bombings and ambushes, there will be no knockout blows with tanks and bombs.

Rather, as Marine commanders emphasized when 5,000 troops began the offensive last week, success will be built raid by raid, arrest by arrest, until the latticework of rebel cells in virtually every village and town is weakened and the will to sustain the insurgency is broken.
(snip/...)
http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/news/nation/10288682.htm
(Free registration is required)
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 12:10 PM
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18. I would wager they are trying to defend supply lines from the South.
If the Airport is unsafe you have to truck things in, from Kuwait or
Turkey, or from some other airfield. The convoys are under continuous
attack.

But it's hard to tell for sure out here in TV land. The rest is PR
blather. Nothing was accomplished in Fallujah except the creation of
a large numnber of pissed-off refugees.
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