Ukraine Moves Closer Toward Revolt (Civil war to commence forthwith)

Katherine Chumachenko sued Russian journalist Mikhail Leontiev and Ukraine’s Inter television channel and Kievskiye Vedomosti newspaper over a report Leontiev broadcast over Russia’s ORT television on April 10, 2001.
In the report, Leontiev alleged that Chumachenko, who was born in the United States, was a US government agent intent on helping Yushchenko seize power in Ukraine.

During the program, Leontiev said that “Yushchenko is under the complete control of his strong willed wife, Katherine Chumachenko, who is following instructions she receives from Washington.”

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The select committee has received a request for a determination under rule 35 for Kathy Chumachenko, a member of the Joint Economic Committee staff, to participate in a program in the Soviet Union, sponsored by USIA in conjunction with the Soviet Communist Youth League, from February 2-16, 1990.

The committee has determined that participation by Ms. Chumachenko in the program in the Soviet Union, at the expense of USIA in conjunction with the Soviet Communist Youth League, is in the interest of the Senate and the United States.

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Established in 1984, the International Republican Institute is a private, non-profit organization dedicated to advancing democracy worldwide. It is not a part of the Republican Party of the United States; its programs are non-partisan and promote fundamental American principles such as individual liberty, the rule of law and the entrepreneurial spirit that fosters economic development.

Thanks to the sponsorship of Sen. John McCain, chairman of IRI's board of directors, I was appointed as one of international election delegates who monitored the elections. The significance of the mission lies in the fact that democratic elections in Ukraine send a positive message to the entire world that Ukraine is committed to an orderly transition to democracy
Upon arriving in Ukraine, IRI delegates had an opportunity to meet other each other during the evening of November 10. We spent the next day in briefings, which began with an introduction and welcome from IRI Vice-President Grace Moe and IRI CIS Program Director Judy Van Rest, as well as a presentation on the election environment given by Tom Garrett, the IRI's resident program director for Ukraine. Briefings were also held with U.S. Ambassador Steven Pifer; the manager of Barents Group, Kathy Chumachenko; and representatives of the European Community.

On election day observers began visiting polling sites at 7:30 a.m.; our group visited 12 such sites in the city of Chernivtsi, as well as some in villages in the Carpathian Mountains. We witnessed the election process from the opening of a polling site to the closing of one through the tabulation of votes.

We witnessed the tabulation process at the Regional Election Commission in Chernivtsi, where the votes were counted and transmitted - for the first time in history - by computer to Kyiv. Our observation process concluded at 3 a.m. the following day

The Ukrainian Weekly, December 19, 1999, No. 51, Vol. LXVII

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Is Your Name On This List?

From The Washington Times, care of Wayne Mann/TPDXTRA 22 Jul 1998



There are some familiar names on the Filegate list of nearly 1,000 people whose secret FBI background files were obtained by the Clinton administration. The list is in alphabetical order

Katherine Clare Chumachenko

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not like us the Americans ,, the election is stolen and we did nothing! Ukraine should be proud

they are being provoked by outsiders. without high level american interference the ukrainians would stay in their homes. they are weak, like americans.

if the imperialists are successful, the ukrainians will not lift a finger to protest US raping of their resourses. perhaps if they get jesus they will consider it a good thing when troubles come upon them as result of their own actions -just like 56 millions americans..

The people in Ukrain are being provoked by US? Do you really think they give a fuck what "high level Americans" think, say or do?

I don't think we have a lot of credibility in or control of that part of the world much less a leg to stand on as far as elections go.

I dare say it's more in the blood to take to the streets in that part of the world. We have seen in many times in the recent past and it has nothing to do with anything happening on this sidce of the pond.

Yushchenko to win. After all, otherwise, why would he be mumbling about election FRAUD?

including George Soros, who is also funding the protest.

And this movement is severely Nationalistic, as in the ethnic sense. Read some of the posts in the other threads. They are quite scary and promote "ethnic cleansing" ideas. They want to divide the country into "True Ukrainians" and "Russians". They want to make Russian Language TV, newspapers, and books illegal.
Skinheads and anti-semetics are in this party. The Eastern Ukraine is understandably nervous.

Why Yushenko could easily deflate this confrontation by pledging to make Russian the official second language of the state. Yet instead he (actually Yulia Tymoshenko is the one stoking up the fires) stokes up the fires of violent revelution.

Nothing about this is cut and dry. No one has explained the "voting irregularities". The Ukraine is not a well organized or completely modern country, disorganzation and problems should not be a surprise.

Not to sound like anyone is sure of Yanakovich, who could bring more Kuchma style corruption. But any peaceful settlement is being denied by the powerful interference from the outside.

For instance I doubt most are aware that in Kryshatic (Kiev center where the Yushenko Demonstrations are) there is a Giant Screen TV where they were broadcasting Colin Powell declaring the elections rigged and stoking up the Yushenko supporters. It's Orwellian.

There is no easy choice in this. But our interference is not helping.

"Skinheads and anti-semetics are in this party."

without providing a shred of CREDIBLE evidence. And last time I checked, Putin and Co. didn't have a great love affair going on with the Jews either....

What better way for Bush to defend his innocence than to proclaim he finds Election Fraud deplorable (in other parts of the world).

The US is financing the opposition to put their guy, Yuschenko, in power. This is not that great a deal.

JG

doesn't it?

There seems to be a strong Western influence in stirring up the protests...the Opposition must have gotten the 'thumbs up' from the usual gov'ts in the West.

The less than professional (dare I say objective reporting) by western media camped out in Kiev...must be costing the Bigs a pretty penny to waste airtime and resources reporting what is becoming a 'long' impasse; and ergo the more shrill 'cheerleading' to push the Orange power thang.

This in itself is suspicious as the west cared very little regarding a half dozen other much more fraudulent votes in say places like Belorussia, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, Colombia, etc etc

The western press seems to only now have discovered the sizable support and equally enthusiastic protests in the pro-government East Ukraine.

Sure these was fraud, but to suggest that the current 'Moscow-leaning' gov't rules completely without support is a profound simplification and this situation might become very dangerous for the average Ukrainian who, it would appear, are pawns to the whim of forces far removed from the potential battlefield.

It is doubtful Putin and the Russians will allow the Ukraine to go by the wayside and essentially be humilated like Russia was in Yugoslavia...the Ukraine is much closer to their own backyard.

other mouthpiece of Putin) to support your allegations. Otherwise, your assertions are just BS. - K

in Ukraine should give anyone a clue.

You just have mainstream media also saying the same unproven facts that you are saying. Fox, CNN, the AEI and all the other same players who supported Bush's invasion of Iraq are now supporting this protest of Ukraine's election.

and I also have Ukrainian friends. This is not about bush, they consider it to be about their freedom from Russia. Georg Soros who is also from that part of the world and NOT a bush fan, is supporting the Ukrainian people in this revolt against a corrupt election.

If I remember correctly, he moved to the U.K. at about age 10.

This is all very messy. I have family in Eastern Ukraine that are the "salt of the earth". Don't get caught up in the simple answers. Learn more about this.

No one liked Kuchma, east or west, he had a 7% approval rate at one point. Both Yanakovich *and* Yushenko worked as prime ministers under Kuchma.

There are reports of voting irregularities on both sides, but only one side is reported.

What first alarmed me about Yushenko was his way too fast call to "Revolution". This "revolution" was organized well before the election, people were given travel and subsistance money.

Yushenko is surrounded by the Oligarchy, well "former" oligarchy as the ones supporting him were the outed for "crimes" who immediately went into politics against their former bosses.

Yushenko's wife is American and well connected to the American Conservative scene, being involved with the Heritage Foundation. They want to completely privatize all assets aka WTO.

Yushenko and his supporters have emotionalised their opposition by portraying half the country as "Russians" and thus not "true Ukrainians". Half the platform is Nationalist (ethnic) and they want to outlaw all things Russian. Trouble is Russian is a language, not simply a culture and more people know it than Ukrainian. They want to outlaw TV, News, Library Books.

It would be so easy for Yushenko if he simply changed his platform to take out the ethnic clauses. Simply allow Russian to officially be a secondary language and strong promises not to marginalize the Eastern half of the country but instead he stokes fires of hatred.

I don't trust Yanakovich. But I hear enough (from Ukraine Family) and am researching and reading enough to see that Yushenko is no nice guy Champion of Democracy. He is a Right wing extremist with an ethnic twist.

to people in Ukraine and researching both sides and thinking about what is going on. You can call that conjecture if you want, but it is based on some evidence and is not a knee-jerk reaction like I'm seeing many here make based solely on the fact that Bush seems to be supporting the Western-looking candidate (I say seems because I wouldn't trust him an inch in anything). The civil disobedience is real, it's huge, and it's not driven by Bush. People who think so just give him way too much credit. I doubt he could point out Ukraine on a map unassisted. - K

can point out on a map unassisted. But that is neither here nor there.

I've noticed your orange ribbon. Are you Ukrainian by any chance? I have to believe the Ukrainian people know more about wha't going on than we do.

I'm Ukrainian.

This has nothing to do with bunkerboy.

It's about Ukrainian self-determination and valid elections.

The Russian puppet is NOT the choice of the Ukrainian people.

The fact that Yushchenko is supported by hundreds of thousands, and that Kuchma has had absolute control over the elections and the press until now, complete with his own repuke nazi style brownshirts that have disrupted every single rally and tried to prevent the summer party meeting by cordoning off the city and meeting hall to Yushchenko's group has not been reported by the whore media in the US.

other mouthpiece of Bushco) to dispute the posters allegations. Otherwise, your insinuation is just BS. - Don

aka Mrs. Viktor Yuschenko. Therein lies a tale . . .

I am all ears.

Don

I'm not going to take sides in this East-West tug of war, but I do find the US manipulation in the name of democracy rather disturbing.

They seem to be doing a masterful job of playing the world media to their ends.

Ukraine is the fourth country in this neck of the woods to fall to the same pattern of election manipulation in four years.

Serbia, Georgia, Belarus and now Ukraine.

"The operation - engineering democracy through the ballot box and civil disobedience - is now so slick that the methods have matured into a template for winning other people's elections."

It will be easier to check out the links directly:

US campaign behind the turmoil in Kiev
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1360080,00.html

THE FACTS ON THE UKRAINIAN MELODRAMA
http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/News/Trifkovic/NewsViews.htm

A short introduction about Yushchenko's mysterious disease and the Vienna clinic's declaration that there was no evidence of food poisoning, followed by a link to the above article.
Dacha Dude Web log
http://homepage.mac.com/kaaawa/iblog/C2128262602/E193469171/index.html

Maybe we could steal a page out of Dubya's election manual and keep the Ohio Statehouse under siege until new elections are called.

Fight for Democracy Rally on Dec 4 at the Ohio State house in Columbus.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x78747

PS How do I add a signature icon/jpg? I've checked out all the user options and forums to no avail.

They have been struggling to be independent since
the 18th Century.
They are a deeply religous people already,
I know a few.

Now skedaddle back to freeperville.

Nobody should be under a misconception that somehow these people are liberals or that Yushchenko is a liberal. No doubt Bush thinks Yushchenko would make a much better soulmate than Putin.

run by mafia elements. They deserve our support. I really don't care what Bush's ulterior motives may be. He has his own axe to grind and simply makes opportunistic plays that are typically unrelated to actual political situation. He is probably just trying to divert attention from his own electoral fraud. Regardless, the Yushchenko movement is a grass roots one and authentic. If you think you have anything more than your personal conjecture to back up your insinuations that somehow Bush is pulling the strings, please post them. We're all ears. Meanwhile, why don't you try to post something constructive. - K

So does Rush and Fox News and the AEI.

If they suddenly decided to support a Woman's right to choose unconditionally, would we all become "pro-life" as a result of their change?

A broken clock is right twice a day. A blind pig sometimes finds an acorn. And sometimes, people like Rush and Fox News can be right on some things. It's unusual, but not impossible, and it's happened before. It'll undoubtedly happen again.


Now before y'all freak out and scream "FREEPER!!!" at me, read some statements that I think both Rush, Fox News, and we can ALL agree on:

"Ethnic cleansing is generally bad."
"Gassing Jews and putting them in ovens is bad."
"People driving airplanes into buildings is bad."
"If it's all the same to the rest of you, I'd prefer that there not be a Worldwide Nuclear (or Nookular) Holocaust next Tuesday."
"I'll pass on the lethal dose of arsenic in my tea, thanks."

I think people on BOTH sides of the aisle can agree on some things.

woman's right to choose unconditionally. Or it wouldn't be them any longer.

even if it coincides with our position?

If the freepers support any issue which is also supported by liberals/progressives, their reasoning behind that support is flawed. For example, some freepers didn't support the Patriot Act but they were worried that the Patriot Act would be used against freepers if the Democrats ever got back in power.

Other than some small protest against the Patriot Act, freepers are always on the wrong side of each issue.

and seems practically indistinguishable from the whole "my country, right or wrong" or "America: Love it or leave it" mentality.

Shouldn't we evaluate each issue and position independently, without automatically assuming that the other side MUST be wrong 100% of the time? If they came out and said "We support the 13th Amendment in it's entirety!" (which is a statement I don't think the Freepers would oppose) are they wrong?

My support is always based on my own beliefs and knowledge.

It is always the case that it turns out your beloved freepers are always on the opposite side of what I believe. The real thing that is disheartening is that freepers always believe if BushCo loves it then so should the freepers. Yuck, koolaid drinkers. The whole lot.

Not quite. I just think that since they and we are all human beings, there MUST be SOME common ground if you go back far enough.

If I believe something, and find out that the Freepers or Fox News or Rush thinks the same, it doesn't make me rethink my position.

then I would agree there are points where we could agree. But freepers are not Republicans. Freepers are bushbots, the foot soldiers of BushCo. They have swallowed the propaganda of the BushCo regime hook, line and sinker.

He's working with the ACLU now on privacy issues. Strange bedfellows and all that...

is against the Patriot Act. I would think he is a Republican who believes in civil liberties as most real Republicans do versus freepers who believe BushCo should rule all aspects of their lives.

I recall a lot of animosity directed towards him on this board in the not so distant past....

You are implying that if some DUers do not care for a person's actions then that person must be a freeper. Your implication is incorrect. There are many many groups to which people may claim allegiance.

"Freeperville supports Yushchenko and these protests
So does Rush and Fox News and the AEI."

Well hell then , lets forget about the rights of Ukrainians to have fair elections...freepers also think they should. Therefor russian imperialism is good.

I have been posting here for almost a week about the fact that both sides of the Ukraine election have been affected by outside influences and outside monies.

Only two days ago did I find out the AEI and Fox were in favor of the protests. Yesterday I checked to see what the freepers were saying. My opinion on this issue predated my knowledge of what the far right wing supports.

You are saying that Russia is the only influence which is stopping fair elections in the Ukraine. What I have been saying is that there are outside influences on both sides which is interfering in the Ukraine elections.

woman's right to choose unconditionally. Or it wouldn't be them any longer.

"Ethnic cleansing is generally bad."

Unless we are talking about those Muslims in Iraq and Palestine. Then ethnic cleansing is good says the Freeper.

"Gassing Jews and putting them in ovens is bad."

But something really should be done about those DUmmies at DU says the Freeper.

"People driving airplanes into buildings is bad."

Many posts at freeperville wished those airplanes would have flown into buildings which Senators Kennedy and Clinton were in.

"If it's all the same to the rest of you, I'd prefer that there
not be a Worldwide Nuclear (or Nookular) Holocaust next Tuesday."

If all Bushbots and their Saviour Bush were in Nuclear bunkers and that holocaust got rid of all those godless liberals, a nuclear holocaust could be a good thing says the freeper.

"I'll pass on the lethal dose of arsenic in my tea, thanks."

Okay freeperville has a point here but they would dearly love to pass out arsenic tea at any anti-war demonstration.

The problem is that it's completely possible that people are too American-centric here. Political faultlines in post-Soviet society are emphatically *not* anything that people here would recognize.

Like freedom of the press? Like NGOs? Like civil rights? Like free elections? You're a post-Soviet liberal. And DU-friendly.

Like free enterprise and capitalism? Like less government? Like more religion in the public sphere? You're also a post-Soviet liberal. And freeper-friendly.

You don't have to agree with all the points to be a liberal.

Mix in the fact that Ukraine borders weren't drawn on ethnic lines, and many Russians moved in to Ukraine and didn't assimilate. (Suddenly assimilation's a good thing?) They see what's been going on in Latvia and Estonia. Ukrainian nationalism led to Nazi support in WWII.

Anything I could maybe read to back up your opinion? If it's a well-informed one, I'd like to get the same information! TIA.

Well, if by some miracle Kerry won, I wonder if other side would have fought for their rights?

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1- The US is actively destabilizing the region, in fact *any* region in this area. That's the master-plan and always has been.

2- Fraud exists there as it exists here and more people know it over there than here. Ukrainians have lived for "decennies" (Note: "decades" means 10 days) under a regime for whom rigging political life was almost an official function. They have way more experience than we do in that domain.

Please do not mix these issues if you want to make a point.

go here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2758822&mesg_id=2758822

it doesn't surprise me, because most Ukrainians are peaceful people, intelligent, and compassionate. They have had to be to survive the many occupations by foreign countries throughout their history. This notion that there is some huge split between western and eastern interests is IMHO way overblown, not such a deep divide as we have here between the left and right. There are many people in the eastern part of the country whose roots are in Russia as they were brought in purposefully by the former Soviet Union under Stalin and his successors. Ukrainians are willing to accept them in their country, but they want/need the country to be autonomous as a whole, which means integrating them into their cultural values, language, etc. It will take a long time and they are capable of it, but interference from Putin is counter-productive. - K

Ukraine. It's not enough to ID them by saying they are "pro-west." You need to really know who these people are and what is driving them to be willing to sow the seeds of civil war to get their way. A number of Ukrainians live in this country just as many ex-pat Cubans, and Iraqis. Mark their agendas carefully. We will be fighting and having our children fight for their causes while many of the men and women fighting will be unable to even achieve their tinest dreams at home. Think about it!! Follow the money!!! Be very discerning!!!
Read and study the issues before you jump to any conclusions about fighting for "democracy" "freedom" etc. You fell for it about Iraq, don't fall for it again!

http://www.antiwar.com/blog/more.php?id=1494_0_1_0_M

Forget Iraq (for a moment, anyway) - what is going on in Ukraine?
Following the narrow victory (well, 3%, just like in the US election) of Viktor Yanukovich over challenger Viktor Yushchenko, the Yushchenko-ites have adorned themselves with bright orange garments and taken to mass street protests, challenging the legitimacy of the election and demanding a re-vote. Yushchenko even took an oath of presidency, before a group of parliamentarians well short of the quorum he needed.

But here's a problem: the elections weren't stolen. So says the BHHRG, one of the few NGOs in the West that isn't a handmaiden of the Empire.

What we're seeing is rather a re-run of "revolutions" in Belgrade (2000), Tbilisi (2003) and the attempted coup in Belarus (2001), which prominently features CIA-trained student activists from Serbia, and propaganda and financial support from the Empire.
This isn't a popular movement, much less a democratic revolution. Commentator Jonathan Steele of the British Guardian calls this circus a "postmodern coup d'etat". His colleague, reporter Ian Traynor, lays out the facts about the mechanism behind Yushchenko: it's a must-read.

Lew Rockwell dispenses with the "revolutionary" nonsense on his blog:
"In fact, the US is engaging in an imperial adventure. It is seeking to install its man in office via the CIA, and to have Ukraine join Nato and become a US satellite. This is the equivalent of the old Russia subverting Mexico, and having it join the Warsaw Pact, a very hostile act.

Every neocon in the world is screaming the same line. No rational man could agree on that basis alone."

more at link

People, please pay attention!!!

<snip>

George Soros, the billionaire philanthropist, promised to "spend whatever it takes" to defeat George W Bush. So when the president was returned to office, he said he felt like retiring to a monastery. Yet outside America, the missionaries of Soros's lavishly funded Open Society foundations march in parallel columns with the Bush administration. Domestic enmities don't stop the two Georges presenting a united front abroad when it comes to promoting friends and punishing foes.

A year ago, they jointly helped topple Georgia's president Eduard Shevardnadze by putting financial muscle and organisational metal behind his opponents. Now Ukraine has felt the full force of their displeasure.

Bush's representatives have alleged fraud in the presidential elections held on 21 November, which ended in victory for the current prime minister, Viktor Yanukovich, who is regarded as pro-Russian. Meanwhile, Soros's activists have marched in support of the west's favoured candidate for president, Viktor Yushchenko, and have provided the visiting media and election observers with allegations of fraud and intimidation.

The principal charge is that the official results are at odds with exit polls run by what western embassies call "independent" polling agencies (ie, agencies partly paid by western funds channelled through the embassies). Sound familiar? The exit polls in America's presidential elections were also wildly out. As Michael Meacher reports (page 22), the official result in Florida, for instance, was 7 per cent worse for John Kerry than the exit poll. The Republican senator Richard Lugar was in Ukraine, but he didn't caution locals against taking exit polls at face value.

I talked with two exit pollsters in western Ukraine. They stopped every 20th voter and asked how he or she voted. There was no weighting by age or class. Forty per cent refused to answer. Of the rest, 80 per cent said they voted for Yushchenko. But things are not so simple. The two pollsters were also local figures, known as pro-Yushchenko journalists. Mightn't a Yanukovich voter be shy of stating a preference to them?

Despite allegations about media bias towards the prime minister, you would hardly have known, from what I saw of local TV channels in western Ukraine, that he even existed. Even on polling day, Yushchenko and other public figures were shown voting, but not the prime minister. And on election eve, the Eurovision Song Contest winner Ruslana and other pop stars big in Ukraine appeared sporting orange (pro-Yushchenko) symbols.

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http://www.newstatesman.com/site.php3?newTemplate=NSArticle_World&newDisplayURN=200411290007

Was it wrong for us to accept his help?

If Americans were doing what the Ukrainians are doing now, We'd all be absolutely THRILLED, wouldn't we?

Bush that was a bonus. But just because he fought against Bush doesn't mean he is an all around good guy.

"man of the people", and how pro-West he is, but they don't talk about his wife. Here's a rare exception to that, written by one Hertiage Foundation alum about another alum:

<snip>

As it happens, I know Mr. Yushchenko's wife, Katherine Chumachenko, an American of Ukrainian descent. She and I met in the late 1980s when she was working in the human rights bureau at the State Department. Later, we worked together at the White House, where she was in the Office of Public Liaison, and the Treasury Department, where she worked in the executive secretary's office.
Kathy — she is now known as Kateryna — is one of the brightest, most dedicated conservatives I have ever known. She has a MBA from the University of Chicago and is well versed in that school's free market economics tradition. The first time we ever met was at a Heritage Foundation event.

Anyone who met Kathy quickly discovered that the liberation of Ukraine from communist tyranny was her primary mission in life, to the exclusion of almost everything else. So it was no surprise to me when she moved to Kiev soon after it broke free of Moscow's control in 1991. I helped get her a position there with KPMG, an American consulting company, where she trained Ukrainians in Western methods of banking, accounting and other fundamentals of a market economy.
Kathy married Mr. Yush-chenko five years ago, while he was still running the central bank. In that position, he was one of the few Ukrainians who was trusted by foreign investors. He has a reputation for honesty as well as competence — the former perhaps being more important than the latter, given the widespread corruption in Ukraine. A new report from Transparency International ranks Ukraine as one of the most corrupt nations on Earth.

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http://washingtontimes.com/commentary/20041026-090701-1078r.htm

George Soros involvement there too.

According to the Guardian, his people (and money) are over there too.

Sorry 'bout that! It's that old space-time continuum thang!

The divisions appear to run deep and to reflect different historical and cultural traditions.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/ukraine/story/0,15569,1361311,00.html

This is precisely what we need to do here in America. Precisely. I could not agree more wholeheartedly with anything. If we do not take to the streets in the tens of thousands, then, I fear, what the outcome of this election will yield. Civil disobediance will make the media pay attention when there are tens and thousands of people involved in it.

...for your "Revolt" let me know. I will be storming the barricades right next to you.

Don

This would be good news for the Us economy. Everyone break out the champaign. (sarcasm)