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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 08:00 AM
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Medical Marijuana debate goes before Supreme Court, USA
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=16970

The Supreme Court will hear arguments about the issue of medical marijuana tomorrow. A decision is expected tomorrow as well.

Prosecutors say it is an addictive substance. They insist that legalizing marijuana for medical (private) use would be a godsend for traffickers and pushers.

The State of California says that the federal government should have no power to decide on medical drugs that stay within state lines.

Perhaps the most important issue of all is whether patients have the right to take a product which relieves their chronic pain, distress and discomfort.

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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 08:07 AM
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1. prosecutor's arguments rest on
their specious assertion that marijuana is addictive?

Sheesh, are they going to ban most prescription pain-killers, sleeping pills, anti-depressents, anti-convulsants, and anything else that your body develops a need for over time?

And just so we're clear, alcohol, cigarettes and caffeine ought to be banned as well.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 08:19 AM
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2. Hope springs eternal.
I'd like to have an alternative to anti-seizure meds and painkillers/muscle relaxers.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 08:21 AM
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3. Should be interesting. I frankly do not care if people wish to use it.
Usually the feds win I would think.We seem to have a mixed message coming from DC. States rights are great unless you do something we do not like.
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 08:38 AM
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4. Rehnquist doing it yet?
oh delicious irony of ironies...
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 08:39 AM
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5. Can someone show me scientific proof
that marijuana is addictive?

Three reasons why the powers that be are so afraid of marijuana. One, it makes you more aware, not less. Two, anyone can grow their own, who needs expensive prescriptions. Three, industrial hemp would a serious crimp on oil industry profits.

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Poor Richard Lex Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 09:14 AM
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6. the problem is
how can we trust the Supremes to do the right thing? I surely don't.
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VirginiaDem Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 09:15 AM
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7. 4-4 decision anyone?
Isn't it possible that we'll get a 4-4? What happens then?
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Seeking Serenity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 10:01 AM
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8. My $0.02
A) Marijuana can be addictive, not physically like heroin and the like, but psychologically. (But then so can just about anything in people with an addictive personality.) I have a very dear friend who is in rehab right now to treat her marijuana addiction (and the underlying emotional problems that led her to become addicted).

B) I thought this quote, "They insist that legalizing marijuana for medical (private) use would be a godsend for traffickers and pushers" was hysterical. By this standard, anything and everything could be outlawed because bad people might use the thing prohibited to their own benefit.

C) A 4-4 vote is unlikely because Rehnquist may not be hearing oral arguments, but he is still participating in decisions. He can still read briefs, as I understand it.

D) The feds will win this case in all liklihood, because the regulation of drugs, legal and illegal, is under the federal domain via the interstate commerce clause.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 10:04 AM
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9. Issue: Is MJ grown and used within a state, interstate commerce n/t
Edited on Sun Nov-28-04 10:04 AM by jody
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Seeking Serenity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 10:14 AM
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10. Yeah, still would be.
The food and drug act that the feds rely upon to regulate drugs (legal and illegal) was passed and has been repeatedly upheld as a proper part of Congress' power under the interstate commerce clause.

Read this case: http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=317&invol=111

It's still good law. A farmer growing wheat for his own consumption was bannned because of the overall effect it could have on interstate commerce.

The ICC gives Congress broad powers to regulate. It's good in many ways. It just sucks when it comes back to bite progressives on the ass. :-(
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 10:36 AM
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13. I understand but SCOTUS also stated:
“The genius and character of the whole government seem to be, that its action is to be applied to all the external concerns of the nation, and to those internal concerns which affect the States generally; but not to those which are completely within a particular State, which do not affect other States, and with which it is not necessary to interfere, for the purpose of executing some of the general powers of the government. The completely internal commerce of a State, then, may be considered as reserved for the State itself.''

See GIBBONS v. OGDEN, 22 U.S. 1 (1824)
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 10:15 AM
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11. I support MPP/Marijuana Policy Project and would like the entire hemp
industry to thrive, create jobs, reduce reliance on foreign oil, ease pain...
:smoke:
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 10:21 AM
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12. Perhaps the most important issue of all is whether patients have the right
"Perhaps the most important issue of all is whether patients have the right to take a product which relieves their chronic pain, distress and discomfort."

since when have patients had "rights"? That would imply we live in a democracy.
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