Ebersol's Son Dies in Jet Crash (body found)

MONTROSE, Colo. - The body of the 14-year-old son of NBC Sports chairman Dick Ebersol was believed recovered Monday after a fiery jet crash that killed two crewmen and left the injured executive and another of his sons begging bystanders for help.

Coroner Mark Young said a body matching the description of Edward "Teddy" Ebersol was found underneath the wreckage. Heavy equipment was used to recover the body.

"I'm not going to discuss the condition of the body out of respect for the family," he said during a news conference.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20041130/ap_on_re_us/jet_crash

This is just so sad.

I can't imagine losing a child. :cry:

poor kid. i feel bad for the entire family.

I feel sorry for the family.

care because this dude is rich.

can happen to anyone.... tragedy is the ultimate leveler in life..

If they were, people would react in the same way.

It's still a terrible tragedy.

Because we've "known" the mother and father it affects us.

as a man of justice. And being that Olbermann is a rare person I can respect that.

And is there a special connection with Ebersol and Olbermann?

Is it time to get more tinfoil?

I mean Ebersol's decent but not spectacular donations to important Democratic candidates wouldn't be enough to get him Wellstoned would they?

Is there something else?

Do you have the donation link?

if there was a major jet liner which went down I would grieve for those families regardless of their income. To me this was a 14 year old kid who died tragically.

I don't give a shit about this guy because he was rich... is that what you want to hear? :eyes: I express sympathy any time I read about deaths here. I'm not going to ignore a death just because the family is wealthy.

When a regular person loses someone tragically, at a young age, their loved one isn't given all this attention, and "glorification", and stories like these bring your own pain back

for saying what needed to be said.

People get off on shit like this and the Scott Peterson shit - get a life folks. Planes crash every day; people die every minute of every day - so why does anyone care here.

Unless you cry every day for every person who dies, then get over this incident.

sometimes on DU people post about a loved one they just lost and there are many responses expressing sympathy. that doesn't mean they feel nothing or care nothing about others we don't all know or hear about.

and what do you mean by "get over it" ? do you think people who express sympathy on here are sitting around crying and doing nothing or acting as if this is something that never happens in other cases ? no, most of us are responding to a post as we do in other cases on this forum. we know there are others who die in horrible ways all the time.

the grossness of the scott peterson case is the media exploitation of it. i don't see how that is comparable to this in any way.

we'd see more posts about random car crashes... we dont.

people are just lapping up the death that the MSM serves up - ebersol and peterson are the same in that respect

I refuse to buy into this bullshit. There are many, many more tragedies going on that deserve more respect than this media love fest for rich jet setters.


:nopity:

$$ has nothing to do with it

I say let the other rich jet leasers shed crocodile tears for this unfortunate family. I'm saving mine for the hundred or so middle class/poor youngsters who died in car crashes this week who will be lucky to make the obits in the back of their local paper (not to mention dead Iraqi children killed by our bombs).

I refuse to treat these rich and famous people like one of my family just because our corporate media says I should. Fuck the media and fuck bullshit, knee jerk empathy. And so what if Ebersol is a Democrat. I don't see these rich bastards giving up their dividend tax cuts just because they voted for Kerry. God forbid they have to take a commercial flight like anyone else and donate their dividends to help children in poverty. No, they spend it on private jets instead. Fuck them and the jets they fly in on.

OK, flame away... Go ahead and stick up for the rich. See what good it does you.

Why should anybody care for any stranger at all, ever?

No.

What is wrong about having sympathy and empathy with someone -- anyone -- going through a loss? How is that "sticking up for the rich"?

Just when I thought the cynicism couldn't get any thicker or deeper here...

I feel like an Angry Old Dem all the time. My condolences to the family. No parent should have to bury fourteen year old child.

This would a complete non-event had nobody "famous" died. Case in point, the private jet that crashed on the way to pick up Bush the First. Does anyone know ANY names of the dead in that incident? :eyes:

And btw, the kid is dead NO FUCKING SHIT!!!!

That doesn't mean I can't take a second out on my and feel sympathy for the family.

Just like I feel sympathy for any local news tragedy or stuff, that's all over the world.

What's more curious to me is the seeming outrage that we dare acknowledge this at all?

"This would a complete non-event had nobody "famous" died. Case in point, the private jet that crashed on the way to pick up Bush the First. Does anyone know ANY names of the dead in that incident? :eyes:"

Maybe, did you react the same way when Paul Wellstone was killed along with members of his family? Did you say fuck 'em that shit happens everyday to regular people?

You claim to have more sympathy for others but you comments center on slamming other people for expressing even a bit of sympathy for these particular people.

You don't give a shit about anyone. No one demanded you express empathy. A young kid died. It's tragic. Just like someone getting hit by a car or killed in Iraq or whatever is tragic. It is actually possible to sympathize with these people and others and no run out of sympathy.

You on the other hand seem to be glad it happened. Frankly that disgusts me.

...but rich or poor, about the worst thing imaginable to a parent is to lose a child, at any age and under any circumstance.

My sincere sympathies to the Ebersol family.

that could happen to my family than my kid dying a horribly fiery death, let me know. I need more stuff to worry about.

People care because he seems to be a good guy, and he lost a young one. Anytime something tragic happens to a good person people will care.

Wellstone-Bush's father's plane-and now Ebersol.

he said crashes are fairly common and from what he's heard he thinks it's was pilot error, meaning the pilot didn't get the wings de-iced.

n/t

I don't know. A plane full of schlubs maybe. I suppose I may be naive about the rich, but I just assume that things are done right for them. I just can't imagine a company flying millionaires around that wouldn't de-ice the wings, if it was called for.

Does that mean it has to be a conspiracy. No, not necessarily. Maybe the rich are like you and me when it comes to airplanes.

My Dad has been flying for 40 years, he flew during viet nam, then some commercial and has always some type of private plane, mostly puddle jumpers. Whenever some air disaster happens i always call him and ask for his opinion and usually he's right. When Payne Stewarts plane went missing and than was found he knew what it was, it was all due to a tiny valve. He's the type of guy that won't drive his car unless he's walked around the whole thing first and done a visual check for problems. When that singer Alia was killed that was also pilot error-overloaded cargo area. When i do fly i always feel better when my dad is the pilot.

Even the rich get corners cut I guess. I suppose they are the ones that are often in a big rush.

Crash pics show heavy snow falling, and descriptions of the crash seem consistent with an aircraft which should have been de-iced, but wasn't.

I checked weather reports soon after hearing of Wellstones wreck. Conditions then were far, far better than they were for Ebersols wreck. I listened to reporters talking of "difficult" conditions for Wellstones wreck and couldn't believe what I was hearing.

If something is foul regarding Ebersols wreck, they picked a good day for it.

just to let him know that we are sorry for his pain, and show him that we care about more than his reporting for us.

I'll write KO as well.

The plane crashed in similar conditions that brought down the plane that carried members of the OSU (Oklahoma) basketball team in 2001. These planes ice up VERY easy that is why many ended up grounded during colder weather. Personally, I hate those damn things, cold or not!

Terrible thing for a very good family to have to go through. This family has worked tirelessly for good causes for people not as fortunate as themselves. They are very good people. Rich or poor it's a horrible thing to loose a child and my heart goes out to them.

Where's the mass sympathy for the thousands of dead and dying children of Iraq? How about Darfur? If the MSM spent 1 minute talking about each and every casualty of war we would have the time slots filled for a good decade.

for other tragedies-- we wouldn't be at DU if we didn't care about what is happening in the world.

The family is in my prayers. No one should have to lose a child - especially a 14-year-old. And should Dad recover fully, he will probably go through guilt (unfairly). I just pray the family will recover.

Condolences and comfort to the family!

...than the other "non rich and famous" tragedies like in Iraq and Africa (3 million AIDS deaths this year).

than it is to imagine the other horrible tragedies happening around the world. It doesn't mean that any one or the other is MORE tragic, nor does it negate the impact each one has... it's just that it hits close to home... someone we can "relate" to.

I understand what many folks are saying and where they are coming from... but it IS possible to OVER-analyze something.

-- Allen

PS: My condolences to all the families who were affected by this tragedy.

So hard to cope with losing a child...

Some of you that are mouthing off about this, saying "so what", etc need to shut the hell up. No one here feels any less sorry for the children dying in Iraq, just because they express shock and sorrow for the Ebersol family. Having lost my 16 year old nephew in a car accident a few years ago, I can tell you that anytime I hear or read about a family losing a young family member, I feel for them, and I'm going to express my condolences. Losing a child is an agony that I don't wish on anyone. Having money or prominence in the community only brings out the media vultures. The last thing you want at a time like this is publicity. I watched my sister endure their torment. It's awful. :-(

"The last thing you want at a time like this is publicity. I watched my sister endure their torment."

No wonder you're sticking up for them. Sorry, but I'm saving my tears for the poor victims of rich people's ruthless self interest.
They need all the help they can get (unlike the jet leasing Ebersols).

.. not much different than the christianity vs islam crowd ...the old 'us vs 'them' mindset....tedzbear must have been terribly conflicted on 9-11, not knowing whether to cheer or cry as the people dived out the buildings...suffering isnt about 'us vs 'them...yet some persist in making it so....

go away

RL

Is all life that cheap to you? Or just SOME life?

Anyone else here see the hypocrisy?

the stupidest, most ignorant post I've ever seen.

what this family has done for people less fortunate than themselves. How can one be so cold? Just because someone has money doesn't make them a monster. Sometimes people with money can do good things for others... And this is a family of GOOD people.
And no I'm not rich, I live pay check to pay check.

says a lot that you totally missed that part and instead went on to accuse her of things you know nothing about.

I KNOW how it feels. and it hurts so much.

I am so sorry.

Every child lost to another mother and father reminds you of your loss. I truly am sorry.

We are just not suppose to bury our children. It is suppose to work the other way around. Any time it doesn't, it is a tragedy.

I have one son, my only child. He was born very late in my life. I'm 56, he is 8. He IS my life. Having him has filled a hole in my soul that had existed all my life. If anything were to happen to him, I would find it very difficult to carry on. Maybe impossible.

God Bless you.

I didn't know the mom was Susan St. James.
Wasn't she in the tv show with James Garner?

was in Macmillan and Wife with Rock Hudson.

Very sad - my brother and sister-in-law lost their only child a year and a half ago to an auto accident. There can be no sadder occurence than a parent burying their child. Nothing...:(

There is really nothing more I can say.

I am so very sorry to hear that my friend :( :hug:

Sigh, he'll pay.

lucky to have survived. tragic, the loss of a child, but a remarkable thing that so many survived.

He's about the only media person thats even talking about voting irregularities. He has really tried his best for all of us. I appreciate it & wouldn't want to offend him. I understand this family are friends of his. Would be nice if we all sent him an email expressing our sympathy.

Rich or poor, Famous or not, I see nothing wrong in feeling bad about anyone dying. We all have families and should be able to relate to the loss of a loved one.

Thousands dead on 9/11 or in Iraq, or in Afghanistan, or someone in a plane crash or whatever, what's the difference? All were special. All were loved. All will be missed. I don't see why anyone would have a problem understanding that.

dead is dead, rich or poor, no sense in being rude about it.

However, is anyone else bothered by the word "begging" for help? That seems so out of place - did they really have to beg? or did people come running to help - as is almost always the case. Begging seems a little disrespectful.

I am only refusing to allow the corporate controlled media to arbitrate who I show pity for. Let me tell you, there's plenty of grief in my own neighborhood that will never make the six o'clock news. That's where my heart will be, not with the jet setting Ebersols.

:nopity: for private jet crashes.

Even so, I hope you never have to bury a child. No amount of money ever takes away the pain.

Yes, Ebersol family was rich and was on a private jet. It is still a tragedy none the less, this kid had a future ahead of him, he was around the same age as my classmate when he died in that terrible accident a few years back. This is tragic, I don't care what the person's wealth level is, it is still sad. Poor kid, 'cording to the coroner seems like his body was badly mangled, sigh.

I'd like to leave it at that. Rich or poor, too many tragedies (sp?), worldwide. We are sorry for your loss. That is it. I'm so sorry for your loss, no one deserves this kind of pain.

its just, while I know if the family wasn't famous, this wouldn't be news, but its sad none the less, and some people for reasons unknown to me don't get it, this kid had his whole life ahead of him, its sad. I agree with what you mean, yeah there are way too many tragedies world wide.

Thank you for sharing my feelings on this matter.

but sure, this is a tragedy, I dont care that he was rich, and his father was famous, the point is this is a tragedy regardless, the point is that this kid died before his time was up, I had a classmate when I was a freshman who died the summer we all were going in to sophomore year, he was mourned and still is mourned, everytime I walk through the neighborhood I walk to get to the school, I see DS spray painted on the side walk in memoriam of him.

That's what I meant by, wow. I know you are not a heartless bastard, by any means. I look up to you most of the time. I'm sorry for this family and all the other families receiving bad news every day. It's breaking me.

You look up to me? humbled yet again, I am probably younger than you. I can't even vote. Yeah, I am sorry for the families too, really am, I don't know why people are being such pricks about it, I admit the Lacey Peterson story is a sensationized story, its still very sad, but this is news when a promeinent person is in an accident, and in Ebersol's case, their child is killed, its really sad, sigh poor kid, whole life ahead of him. Thanks for the compliments.

You've been around about as long as we have and if you are to young to vote still, then I'm really impressed. You are welcome and I feel good knowing that you are there to lead, when the time comes.

Never really have been, I am the one who gives people the heads up.

n/t
Peace and lots of love, and by all means keep on giving the "heads up". I'm losing it here in my "neck of the woods". I'm giving up kinda, so it's nice to see someone like you, take our back, you give me hope and I know I can't give up. Frustation unlimited!

its already 6 in the morning? damn.

But it's only five here. Not that that is a good thing. Are you planning to go to DC for the non-inauguration of the selected prez? I'm thinking I may have to go, why aren't we on the streets already?

damn right I am going.

I think we can make it happen. I just so much don't want to wait until the day. Why aren't we marching now? Do we have to get through Christmas first?

We have a couple of friends in the DC area. Need a place to stay? I'm getting started and damn it all, I sure don't want to. Maybe you should PM me?