Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

TV reporter is blasted by Taser on air

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:23 AM
Original message
TV reporter is blasted by Taser on air

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1382033,00.html

~snip~

Today a reporter from Sky News agreed to be zapped with a Taser by a police marksman, to test the effects of the weapon which an Amnesty International report today linked to 70 deaths in the United States and Canada.

Struck in the behind by the probes from the stun gun, reporter Derek Tedder fell to the ground. For the first few seconds the news channel bleeped out his reactions.

When he had recovered a little, he reported: "It's like someone ramming you with a bed of very sharp nails over your entire body. I couldn't do anything but fall to the floor."

~snip~

Kate Allen, the UK director of Amnesty International, said: "Tasers have been used in the US against pregnant women, unruly schoolchildren and mentally ill people. In some cases, simply walking away from a police officer has led to people getting a 50,000 volt electric shock. Is this a glimpse into the future of UK policing?"

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
shoelace414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:24 AM
Response to Original message
1. a club to the knee doesn't cause death
but it's not something that can just be done
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:43 AM
Response to Reply #1
5. Nor does it leave a physical trail of evidence.
I imagine it's quite the effective tool in the torturer's hand.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 07:36 PM
Response to Reply #5
24. A taser doesn't leave a physical trail?? I think it does.
The little darts that it fires out have barbs on them. Think of a straightened fish hook. There is definite physical evidence of being tasered, in that you will have two punctures in your skin.

A stun gun on the other hand, leaves little evidence, if it is used in short bursts. It would probably leave marks if used for more than a second or two, or if used on a sensitive area of the body.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:31 AM
Response to Original message
2. Gee, I hope he didn't soil himself ... nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 06:29 PM
Response to Reply #2
21. I think he just voided!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
elepet Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:33 AM
Response to Original message
3. what nobody knows
or has tested is what the long range effect on the nervous system is.
Like shock"therapy".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:39 AM
Response to Original message
4. Overuse of "Less Lethal" devices...
...is causing a HUGE controversy nationwide as police begin using them in what are in fact "less than lethal" situations...6 and 13 year olds tased in Florida and recently a 21 year old killed by a paint ball gun at a Boston sports event...It speaks volumes toward police morality that devices designed to lessen confrontations leading to fatal shootings has instead become a common tool for of suppression and more often a first choice rather than the second to last option...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Komrade _azul Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:44 AM
Response to Reply #4
6. Is a sword less lethal than a gun?
I agree, the less than lethal tag does not mean potentially nonlethal, it simply means not as likely to kill the victim as, say, a 9mm bullet. There has to be more research on a new technology before it is applied whole scale to the general public. The rush to issue untried technologies does and will continue to lead to unwarranted abuse and fatalities.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #4
11. How soon will people realize that..
1) they will keep a safe distance

2) those of a criminal element will make full use of guns
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:45 AM
Response to Original message
7. I Was Attacked From Behind With A Military-Grade Electric Baton
by an undercover police officer in Manhattan. I was walking home early one morning last year, and this big scary guy in a hooded sweatshirt asked to bum a cigarette. I happily gave him a smoke, and a light. Then I turned and walked away.

The next thing I knew I was sitting on a doorstep, with about a dozen guys with wires hanging out of their ears, talking to their lapels.

The guy who bummed the cigarette was asking me repeatedly, "What size shoes do you wear?" It turns out they thought I was a shoe bomber and had taken my shoes and cut them apart looking for explosives.

They gave me an old ratty pair of boots three sized to big and told me, "Take off." They also confiscated my Leatherman multi-tool, a Father's Day gift from my children.

I was so stunned I didn't know what was happening. When I awoke the next morning, I had a burn five inches long on the back of my right shoulder.

A person familiar with stun guns told me that they don't cause burns unless they are either souped-up or of a grade only available to police and military.

To make a long story short -- yeah, they'll do it to you from behind, even for no damned reason. (It turns out I was approaching the police complex in Grammercy when I was zapped.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:50 AM
Response to Reply #7
8. Have you filed a complaint?
I think you have an open and shut case. Zapping someone without warning is certainly against regulations.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:13 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. I am horrified by your tale
:wow:

I do hope that you can sue these bastards for everything that they have or might have for the rest of their lives. :grr:

It makes the "no good deed goes unpunished" saying sound like a fairytale

I was walking home early one morning last year, and this big scary guy in a hooded sweatshirt asked to bum a cigarette. I happily gave him a smoke, and a light. Then I turned and walked away.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:31 PM
Response to Reply #7
17. This sounds weird to me...
Are you sure they were police or military types, and not a bunch of thugs who managed to steal the gun from authorities? For that matter, maybe they were police/military who were not acting in an official capacity, but just wanted to have some sick "fun".

Surely the abuse you received is not standard procedure, not to mention the theft of your Fathers Day gift.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:15 PM
Response to Original message
10. Oh yea smart aleck, how about a bed of very sharp nails for your
Edited on Tue Nov-30-04 12:16 PM by Supersedeas
free speech...TAKE THAT!!!!

On wonders, when authorities taser a pregnant woman, does the fetus feel the bed of nails as well?

Would the pregnant woman have two claims of abuse by authorities?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
skippythwndrdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. Not if we want to claim that they aren't children and can
be terminated at will. I wouldn't touch that one with a ten foot pole.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:28 PM
Response to Original message
12. related article: Report Links Stun Guns To Deaths
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/29/health/main658209.shtml

(AP) Medical examiners have found that Taser electric stun guns may have played a role in at least five deaths, contradicting the manufacturer's claim that the weapons never killed or injured anyone, a newspaper reported Sunday.

Medical examiners in three cases involving suspects who died in police custody cited Tasers as a cause or a contributing factor in the deaths, The Arizona Republic reported. In two other cases, Tasers could not be ruled out as a cause of death.

Taser International has defended its product, which thousands of law enforcement agencies have issued to their officers to help subdue people who refuse to obey commands.

The Scottsdale-based company created a report detailing 42 cases of people who died after being shot by a Taser. The company claims the stun guns were cleared every time.

"It is not Taser International that says Taser is not to blame," Taser chief executive Rick Smith said in an April news release. "It is the medical examiner's opinion in every single case across the country."

...more...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. important article UIA...
I meant to post it to mine in an edit and forgot. Thanks for posting!

:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:38 PM
Response to Original message
15. Now if they could only do that to all of the reporters...
maybe it would shock them in to telling the truth
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Pale_Rider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:40 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. Brit Hume comes to mind ...
... as a likely candidate.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 06:12 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. Fred Barnes and Morton Kondracke.
They aren't very electrifying, but maybe a tasering would perk up their Tweedle Dee/Tweedle Dum act.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 06:14 PM
Response to Original message
19. Might this not start a wonderfully edifying trend?
Let's hope right wing journalists will volunteer for more such experiments in Western culture.

Hear me, Fox journos?

If you stand directly under air strikes in Iraq, you'll be able to taste the smell of democracy in the morning!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 06:24 PM
Response to Original message
20. The mentally ill have always been physically abused...
What's so shocking about taser misuse? (pardon the pun). I've observed it, I've been abused.

I wish these reporters would start doing more to say how it impacts everybody instead of saying it in a way that condones or allows people to simply say "oh well". Once people realize that it's going to affect them, they will stand up against it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mr Creosote Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 06:41 PM
Response to Original message
22. This is a good idea
can we make it compulsory for all Murdoch's reporters to be zapped on a regular basis?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 06:45 PM
Response to Original message
23. I heard that Bill O'Reilly was once 'zapped' on air...
but I don't know if it was a taser... :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Reverend Smoothfield Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:27 PM
Response to Original message
25. Anyone catch the Cops special subtitled "Tased and Confused"?
i felt it was pretty tasteless.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 11:58 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC