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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 04:35 PM
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Pfizer to Lose $14 Billion Because of Generic Competition
Pharmaceutical giant Pfizer Inc. reiterated Tuesday it would meet its 2004 earnings target but said over the next two years it would lose $14 billion in revenues because of patent expirations.

Pfizer lost market exclusivity on two key drugs this year, and will lose patent protection on an additional five drugs in the next two years.


At its annual analysts meeting, Pfizer also said it will file three new drug applications with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration by the end of the year, including one for an injectable cox-2 inhibitor, a class of pain relievers. Merck & Co. withdrew its cox-2 inhibitor, Vioxx, from the market earlier this year because it doubled patients risk of heart attacks and strokes when compared with placebo. Pfizer already markets two cox-2 inhibitors: Bextra and Celebrex. Studies have shown that Bextra can reduce the risk of heart attacks in coronary bypass patients.

Pfizer is also filing an application to have its erectile dysfunctin drug Viagra used to to treat pulmonary arterial hypertension, a vascular diease which reduces lung function. It is also filing an application for another form of its antibiotic Zithromax.

full article may be found here: http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGB1GJOK62E.html
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 04:42 PM
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1. So does that mean we'll save $14 Billion on drugs
by being able to buy generics?
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fnottr Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 07:34 PM
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17. more importantly
I think this headline shows at least a little bias in favor of the coorperations. What if they headlined it "Consumers to save big on several drugs due to generic competition"
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 07:40 PM
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18. Not when generics are going through the roof!
Major wallet rape to make up for the prescription drug discount started right around the election.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 04:44 PM
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2. One hopes that azithromycin actually goes generic......
50 bucks for 6 pills is a bit pricy in my estimation.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 04:46 PM
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3. What a joke.
Pfizer isn't "losing" anything. It's ridiculous to try to count profits that you could never attain in the first place and then call them "a loss."

This is the state of American business today, and we wonder why the economy is what it is?
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Ima Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 04:50 PM
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5. It's creative bookkeeping.
They probably want another tax break.
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malachi Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 04:48 PM
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4. Pfuck Pfizer.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 04:51 PM
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6. Crying here. No, really. Seriously, crying now.
Weeping for Pfizer and their damaged profit estimates. :nopity:
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 04:54 PM
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7. Why don't I give a rats ass
Even with insurances I still have to shell out over $140.00 a month for prescription medicine. They can tighten their belt a bit. They will figure out a way to screw us poor sick people though.
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 05:10 PM
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8. Wow! If I were a man, I could breathe while having an erection!
Pfizer is also filing an application to have its erectile dysfunctin drug Viagra used to to treat pulmonary arterial hypertension, a vascular diease which reduces lung function.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:46 AM
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22. The reason for this, is to try to get the patent protection extended
As I recall, if a drug company shows that Drug A, used for condition B can also be used for condition C, then it can get an extension on the patent for Drug A. They play this game quite a bit, and it's one of the things that keeps drug costs up.

Pun not intended but acknowledged (extension - Viagra).
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 05:31 PM
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9. They're not "losing" anything. They knew what the period of protection
was when they first patented the drugs.

It's funny they frame it as losing money.

The only reason they got the money for these drugs was because they got patent protection in the first place.

In their annual reports for the past 17 years or whatever, were they writing about this unexpected windfall of billions of dollars of profits due to the surprise that the US gov't was giving them a monopoly for their inventions?
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 06:01 PM
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10. Awww, too bad
does this mean Pfizer has been gouging to the tune of $7B/year of those drugs they had patents on? I wonder, how much public research money was spent to develope those drugs Pfizer held the patents on?
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 06:40 PM
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Indeed.
These are companies with their snouts in the trough. And this is ridiculous, anyway. Patents run out. That's the deal. This isn't a loss. It's a make-believe "story."
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 06:11 PM
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11. I have two reactions to this
1. Boo Hoo Pfizer..eat shit, my heart is bleeding fer ya...NOT

And

2. Crap, now I will get even MORE spam offering generic Viagra. My inbox will be awash.


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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 06:26 PM
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12. Oh. The poor babies. Let's outlaw generic meds and make laws to
ensure that no regulations of any sort can be placed on the large corporations.

Pfuck Pfizer.

And pfuck this society that puts a greater emphasis on the acquisition of money than it does on being compassionate toward people. We're not a society. We're Rome reincarnate.
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GiantRobot Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 06:28 PM
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13. are they bidding on the drug the kiddies plan, too?
maybe cheney can tell how he finigaled the haliburton gig, betcha that book would sell a million copies :shrug:
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 06:31 PM
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14. Oh well. It is a business.
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madison2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 06:40 PM
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15. They make a fortune off these drugs for 17 years
and then whine about it when there is competition?

They also hold patents on 2 drugs used to treat arthritis in dogs- Rimadyl and Deramax. There are millions and millions of dogs with arthritis - I've paid $50-$75 a month for 5 years. There's absolutely no reason these drugs should cost that much, but there isn't any competititon and people love their pets so we'll pay it.

If they can't make a profit and develop new drugs with a patent window of 17 years, something is really screwed up.
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coreystone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 07:18 PM
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16. They lost nothing! They bilked the consumer for R&D, then...
they continued to "bilk" the consumer for MASSIVE profits.

Losing expected profits is not losing anything!

:-)
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 07:59 PM
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19. Awwww...the tears are just falling from my eyes, you greedy scum
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Thurston Howell IV Donating Member (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:51 PM
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20. I doubt that it means that consumers will save the equivalent amount
Most doctors will just prescribe a competitors name brand, "me-too" drug. The competitor's drug probably costs a similar amount, or it will shortly.

Doctors are heavily, heavily marketed to, and they end up prescribing the latest, on-patent drug, even if the new drug is not demonstrably better than older, generic drugs.

Big Pharma has made a science out of maximizing its profits -- for the last 20 years, they've been the most profitable industry in the country, nearly double the profit margins of the next competiting industry group (which I believe are the big financial firms).
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 09:15 PM
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21. Spend more on r & d and less on advertising
slightly less boost in immediate profits - but longer term ongoing, and growing revenues... used to be called sound business planning (including planning long in advance for the shift in profits when the patent ran out on current drugs and having more in the pipeline...)
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