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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 06:13 PM
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Anti-Immigrant Forces Said to Gain Strength in U.S.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republicans who want to slow immigration to the United States and crack down on illegal immigrants believe they are gaining political strength and public backing, which may pose a problem next year for President Bush.

Bush has already signaled his intention to push a major proposal to allow some of the estimated 8 million to 10 million illegal immigrants in the country to gain legal work visas for up to six years as part of a "guest worker" program.

But he may face growing anti-immigrant sentiment, not only his own party but in the country at large, several opponents claimed.

"Public opinion is unquestionably on our side," said Paul Egan of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, a Washington group that seeks to limit legal migration and strengthen U.S. borders.

http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=domesticNews&storyID=6957227
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 06:17 PM
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1. If the repulsivans could do it...
they would "deport" every non-white immigrant here.. They long for the 50's....

The days when "people knew their place"...

men ....chasing the secretary around the desk, and having 3-martini lunches

wives...chained to a stove...baking cookies & kid-sitting

non-whites....doing laundry, gardening, chauffeuring, opening doors..


That's all they really want..
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 07:43 PM
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6. Yes, remember "Father Knows Best!" n/t
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indianablue Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 06:23 PM
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2. I am a Democrat but ....
I am for tougher illegal immigration.

The Unites States can not become the flop house for the entire third world.

I believe illegals who commit crimes should be deported.

We can do more to tighten the border, can we stop illegal immigration completely no but we need to do more.

Both parties want the cheap labor and potential votes.

I know this sounds like freeper talk but on this issue more needs to be done.

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 07:59 PM
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7. Illegal immigration could be stopped in its tracks
1. 5 yr in PRISON for BOSSES who hire illegals (knowingly or not)1st offense.. 10 yr for 2nd offense... Life for 3rd..

2. Minimum wage $12.00 an hour

3. Mandatory healthcare (from employer)

4. Outsource or bring in foreign workers..company gets NO tax credits
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 09:33 PM
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10. Wow ! I'll vote for you then
Those ideas would sure work.
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Viktor Runeberg Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 09:38 PM
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12. Illegal immigration is racist
Do we believe there should be good jobs for blacks and Native Americans? If the answer is yes, we need to stop encouraging illegal immigrants who take the jobs that would otherwise be available to entry-level workers, resulting in half of the black men under 30 being involved in one way or another with the wrong end of the criminal "justice" system, and Native Americans having Third World life expectancies.

Also, the environmental costs of having too many more people living to American (lack of) standards in energy and material consumption are just too high for the world to be subjected to. So until we get that under control, it's not just illegal but legal immigration that should be curtailed.

But make no mistake, the employers who want to continue bringing in Mexicans specifically want to avoid two things: (1) hiring blacks and Indians, and (2) paying their hires a living wage. And yet they call us racist if we complain. Democrats should not go along.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 06:25 PM
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3. Xenophobia vs. greed---which repug trait will win?
Bush wants immigration so the few jobs that can't be shipped overseas can be immediately given to foreigers, just like the manufacturing and call center jobs.

Xenophobic repugs hate and fear foreigners as they hate and fear everything and everyone that might call into question the perfection of their religion, language and beliefs.

I don't know which repug failing will win the day. All I know is that whatever they do they do for the worst of goals.
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nickzen Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 07:37 PM
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4. Where's Jesse when you need him?
Edited on Tue Nov-30-04 07:39 PM by nickzen
The city is tearing down the public housing and the tenants are moving into the community, good idea it seem, anything is better than those hell-hole projects. Where are they moving, into impoverished immigrant urban area's of course. As I watch the illegals stand the shape-ups waiting for a day-labor jobs, I wonder why African-Americans new to our neighborhood should have to compete with them? Why are employers allowed to exploit the desperate poverty of Mexico, at the expense of our own citizens? We do 3 or 4 fire drills one day a week, and at the schools wonder what more we could offer our own needy children, if we didn't have to pay for bi-lingual education, meals and immunizations for the children of illegals? About half of our medical runs are to provide medical care to the rest of the world, and they get really sick having no insurance, the expense to taxpayers is staggering. This goes on 24-7, 3 rigs rolling hard in just one firehouse, the city just put 8 new ambo's in service last year, 5 more coming. So can you tell me why my fellow citizens have to pay taxes for and compete with illegals, why our medical system and children are made to suffer for another nation people?
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George_S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 07:41 PM
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5. Maybe Bush isn't really against it.
Could be a front.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:59 PM
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8. Check any DU thread on the Arnie Amendment
And you'll see plenty of xenophobia on the left directed against legal immigrants.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 09:57 PM
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13. That's because some DUers are obsessed about Arnold as they are
about Nader.

If people were to put their Arnold and Nader voodoo dolls away for a bit, they might just find out that there are some valid issues out there once they are delinked from the personalities involved.

Look at it this way: Canadian born Governor Jennifer Granholm and Greek born Arianna Huffington will be able to run for Prez.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 09:08 PM
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9. Dogs in the Manger
There's a epithet derived from one of Aesop's fables that describes the GOP: dog in the manger.

The dog sat on the hay in the manger so that the cows could not eat it. The dog couldn't eat the hay himself, but he wanted to be sure that no one else had any benefit in life that he didn't.

Thus we have:

A demand to prevent gays from marrying (even the Supremes, in a moment of lucidity, agreed that gay marriage would not harm anyone nor anything)

The utter refusal to set a living minimum wage.

The utter refusal to set a floor of minimum health care for all.

The utter refusal to set uniform national election procedures with verifiable and re-countable balloting.

The refusal to permit doctors to provide the best treatment they can (including contraception, abortion, stem cell therapy, etc) without interference from Congress or the Executive branches, neither of which have medical licenses or training.

The refusal to honor international treaties.

The refusal to uphold the Constitution and the Bill of Rights (except for the Second Amendment, of course.)

And more than I can bear to list.

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 09:38 PM
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11. Hard to believe that Bush would be considered a moderate
when compared to some of the more extreme elements in the rightwing.

It is going to be a very ugly four years for those that choose to remain in Jesusland.
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:48 PM
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14. What are the Democrats doing?
What I find disturbing is that the Democratic leaders don't take the lead in this issue and support legislation to stop illegal immigration. Probably because most are pro-amnesty for illegal aliens. The Democratic Party is "supposed" to be the party of the common citizen... and yet they continue to support amnesty.

IMO, it's this issue coupled with rolling back taxes on those making $200K (for people teetering on that base scale, not higher) that lost the election for JFK.

Morals... my a$$.
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