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flying_blind (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 07:46 PM Original message |
Stoned to death... why Europe is starting to lose its faith in Islam |
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. Well, no... |
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rockydem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
2. right wing violence memes in action |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
208. Yep, gotta love religious fanatics - man I want another Enlightment. |
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Brundle_Fly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
3. this shit is everywhere |
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flying_blind (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 08:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. bumfight - I lughed my ass off at it, guiltily |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 01:02 PM Response to Reply #5 |
171. well at least you felt guilty for laughing |
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McKenzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
4. I wonder if America is losing its faith in Christianity |
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flying_blind (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 08:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. excellent post |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 08:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Thank you |
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flying_blind (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 08:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
25. I think you should rethink the post you bitch about |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 11:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
102. Horse shit,plain and simple |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 11:58 PM Response to Reply #102 |
111. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 12:58 AM Response to Reply #111 |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 01:01 AM Response to Reply #123 |
125. *giggle* |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 01:11 AM Response to Reply #111 |
129. Take a break,...and a breath,... |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:07 PM Response to Reply #102 |
187. why were the men not named? what happened to them? |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 07:21 PM Response to Reply #187 |
229. Not you |
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someday (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 01:57 PM Response to Reply #102 |
254. yup |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
33. So do you contend |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 11:34 PM Response to Reply #33 |
103. You simply cannot be that dense |
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Kimber Scott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
65. I find nothing in a teenage Muslim girl being stoned to death having |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 11:41 PM Response to Reply #65 |
105. Oh my god |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 08:22 AM Response to Reply #105 |
160. But the article talks about Muslims marching against this |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 09:35 AM Response to Reply #160 |
163. Please reread that hatefilled screed |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 10:11 AM Response to Reply #163 |
165. Wow, you got all that out of an article |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 10:25 AM Response to Reply #165 |
167. Are you obtuse for a purpose? |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 01:59 PM Response to Reply #165 |
174. I agree with you; certain people keep adding things to the article |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-04 04:13 PM Response to Reply #174 |
285. Wake up. The article has context that is inescapable. |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:14 PM Response to Reply #163 |
191. You have that "America is the center of the Universe" syndrome |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 07:10 PM Response to Reply #191 |
227. Are you talking to me? |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 11:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
104. The articles' event is just a way of pointing out the obvious. |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 01:06 AM Response to Reply #104 |
126. I suggest you reread that article |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 01:10 AM Response to Reply #126 |
128. I suggest you read it VERY carefully because you are |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:23 PM Response to Reply #128 |
197. We suggest YOU take Ardee's advise. |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:27 PM Response to Reply #197 |
199. WE suggest you and Ardee get your heads out of your behind. |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 07:18 PM Response to Reply #197 |
228. Tank, its a waste of time |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 12:12 PM Response to Reply #197 |
247. You may as well insert "teenager" or "woman" for "Moslem" |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:25 PM Response to Reply #104 |
198. yes, but if you are reactionary to a reactionary point of view |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 07:25 PM Response to Reply #198 |
230. There is ,somewhere, |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 12:33 PM Response to Reply #198 |
249. can't agree with you more. The Time mag article, and that is |
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Scairp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 01:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
172. I don't see the parallels |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 08:09 PM Response to Reply #172 |
231. You are so very certain of this are you? |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 08:32 PM Response to Reply #231 |
265. Are you suggesting this murder not be reported because it "serves |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 01:27 PM Response to Reply #172 |
253. I suspect the authorities are somewhat helpless in some |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 02:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
181. only if you believe the that muslim women don't have a right |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
186. Nowhere in the article does it say the perps were jailed or prosecuted. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 05:37 PM Response to Reply #186 |
225. Here's another English language report |
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InvisibleBallots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 01:10 PM Response to Reply #186 |
250. jdj |
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Moloch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 11:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
233. The article does not represent all of moslem opinion |
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Jawja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 11:59 AM Response to Reply #4 |
246. McKenzie, |
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patdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
6. Let me get this straight..a women who fought against being raped |
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flying_blind (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 08:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. So what is your opinion of 'hate crimes' legislation? n/t |
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patdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 08:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. This was not a hate crime..it was a sex crime..she resisted..he killed her |
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NJ_Lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 10:39 AM Response to Reply #19 |
168. I don't think she was killed by the same guys... |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
202. It was a hate crime. |
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baba (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 08:50 PM Response to Reply #19 |
267. Sex crimes ARE hate crimes. n/t |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 02:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
255. Hate crimes legislation... |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
40. I think to answer your question one would have to see stats on |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:15 PM Response to Reply #6 |
64. there was a story in Pakistan where 2 boys beat up |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:50 PM Response to Reply #64 |
81. I read that; it was a few weeks ago in the papers and yeah |
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hel (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 02:23 PM Response to Reply #64 |
176. That is just bullshit. |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 02:31 PM Response to Reply #176 |
179. But it is true. |
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hel (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 02:35 PM Response to Reply #179 |
180. Do you have any link to the story? |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:30 PM Response to Reply #180 |
200. Not necessarily a Muslim thing. |
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hel (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:49 PM Response to Reply #200 |
213. "Bid'a" is strictly forbidden in traditional Islam actually. |
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PsychoDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 01:00 AM Response to Reply #213 |
234. Unfortunatly... |
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gottaB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 02:59 PM Response to Reply #176 |
185. It sounds like the case of Mukhtaran Bibi |
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hel (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:12 PM Response to Reply #185 |
189. I read it and it has nothing to do with Islam. |
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gottaB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:23 PM Response to Reply #189 |
196. Point taken |
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hel (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:40 PM Response to Reply #196 |
206. I'm not too familiar with Pakistan's legal system |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:48 PM Response to Reply #189 |
212. hmmm, does this usally happen in non-muslim countries? |
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hel (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:52 PM Response to Reply #212 |
215. They just might be happening |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 04:05 PM Response to Reply #215 |
218. well, my country is being run by one right now. |
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hel (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 04:13 PM Response to Reply #218 |
221. Mostly the 'sanitized' tribes are |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:08 PM Response to Reply #176 |
188. Damn , why fact-check when we have you. |
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hel (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #188 |
192. And what is that supposed to mean? |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:21 PM Response to Reply #192 |
195. sounding suspicious |
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hel (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:31 PM Response to Reply #195 |
201. Not even remotely related. |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:38 PM Response to Reply #201 |
204. I get most of my info on this reading the works of muslim |
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hel (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:47 PM Response to Reply #204 |
211. Well, I am a woman living in a muslim country. |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:57 PM Response to Reply #211 |
216. I thought islam was a religion, not a race. |
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hel (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 04:10 PM Response to Reply #216 |
220. We have something in common, after all. |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 02:33 PM Response to Reply #211 |
256. Not all muslims are barbarians... |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 11:26 AM Response to Reply #204 |
244. thank you for this great post, well-spoken. When I see stories |
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PsychoDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 11:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
98. I think the logic goes... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 12:42 AM Response to Reply #98 |
122. Interesting thought, that.... |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 09:41 AM Response to Reply #98 |
164. We need to demonize them |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:17 PM Response to Reply #164 |
194. by your arguments there are no good americans |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:33 PM Response to Reply #194 |
203. There's that damn "we" again! |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:45 PM Response to Reply #203 |
209. I don't know what news you expose yourself to |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 07:58 AM Response to Reply #6 |
158. Pretty much what I read...in the beginning. |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 02:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
182. yes it absolutely is about islam, when one can justify this crime |
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PsychoDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-04 01:33 PM Response to Reply #182 |
279. In the story this thread is based on.... |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
7. Whether it's Islam, Christianity, Judaism, etc... |
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flying_blind (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 08:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Rational Thinking and Religion are antithetical n/t |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 08:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. well they may very well be ...to you |
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flying_blind (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 08:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. you certainly took a general statement personally |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 11:47 PM Response to Reply #14 |
108. so you know them all personally heh? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 12:01 AM Response to Reply #108 |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 01:12 AM Response to Reply #124 |
130. Chew |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:05 AM Response to Reply #108 |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 01:06 AM Response to Reply #12 |
127. Talk about generalizations. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 01:14 AM Response to Reply #127 |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:38 PM Response to Reply #127 |
205. Yes - generalizations and ASSUMPTIONS - which YOU are quite eagerly |
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Boosterman (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
55. True |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-04 02:05 PM Response to Reply #7 |
280. i agree fully |
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CoronaMasFina (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
13. Read the Koran |
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flying_blind (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 08:37 PM Original message |
Literalism |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:22 PM Original message |
"Literalism = murder" |
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Az_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 08:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. You won't get flamed from me.... |
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CoronaMasFina (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 08:51 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Sort of agree |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:10 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. A bunch of Christians just killed 100,000 innocent people. |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:17 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. You have heard of the Sudan genocide? |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:18 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Indeed I have. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:41 PM Response to Reply #41 |
207. Have you heard of the Russian genocide of Ukrainians? |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 02:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
183. hmm, I wonder about that. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 09:17 PM Response to Reply #34 |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-04 01:34 AM Response to Reply #34 |
276. were they christians, all of them? really? |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:26 PM Response to Reply #24 |
70. If you count even one third of the gay bashings around the world |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 02:55 PM Response to Reply #70 |
184. muslims don't much like queers either. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 08:51 PM Response to Reply #15 |
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Kathy in Cambridge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 09:28 PM Response to Reply #268 |
274. Islam is as diverse as Christianity. You paint the religion |
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Nevernose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 08:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. So how do you explain the Christian Bible? |
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PsychoDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 01:09 AM Response to Reply #16 |
235. Excelent observation... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 09:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 08:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Ever read the Bible? |
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Boosterman (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
57. theres a bible 1.1 update |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 08:40 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. I felt the exact same way when I read the Bible |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 08:50 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Please provide the Sura and Aya where stoning is given as the punishment |
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flying_blind (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 08:57 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Here |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:00 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Thanks, but I asked for the Sura and Aya--in other words, from the |
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flying_blind (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:11 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. puposefully :) |
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NJ_Lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 10:50 AM Response to Reply #28 |
169. It's all in the interpretations... |
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PsychoDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 11:00 PM Response to Reply #26 |
89. That's the Bible. |
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PsychoDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 11:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
92. That's the Bible, not the Quran |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 07:12 AM Response to Reply #26 |
152. Let he who is without sin |
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CoronaMasFina (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. You'll await the response? |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:05 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Your posts reflect an inaccuracy |
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CoronaMasFina (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:16 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. What is not fair? |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:19 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Bigotry, by its very nature, isn't fair. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 02:12 PM Response to Reply #44 |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:40 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. You refer to the Qur'an as something |
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CoronaMasFina (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:52 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Let me try this again |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:01 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. I've alerted regarding this thread and some of the posts |
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CoronaMasFina (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:14 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. Lovely |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:25 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. You are avoiding the issue |
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CoronaMasFina (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:48 PM Response to Reply #68 |
80. Nice try |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:56 PM Original message |
Speaking of nice tries |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 11:27 PM Response to Reply #80 |
101. Uh, sorry, wrong again. |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:05 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. So do you feel the same way about Christians and Jews? |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. You're passing quite a few unsubstantiated judgment calls |
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CoronaMasFina (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:22 PM Response to Reply #32 |
45. My goodness |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 07:14 AM Response to Reply #45 |
153. I wrote (non-Muslim) and the speaking out of moderates was |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 08:14 PM Response to Reply #32 |
232. you read the Qu'ran |
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VirginiaDem (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. As an athiest |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 11:16 PM Response to Reply #38 |
97. Me neither, but you said it well and you said it the way I think |
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gottaB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 12:11 AM Response to Reply #23 |
117. The punishment for adultury spelled out in the Koran (24:2) is 100 lashes |
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PsychoDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 06:45 AM Response to Reply #117 |
148. Under Sharia, to be accused of Adultry... |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 08:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. How about reading the Christian Bible's Old Testament word for word? |
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kodi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
42. Islam has yet to have its Reformation. When it does, it will be okay. |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:22 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. good point |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:07 PM Response to Reply #46 |
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VirginiaDem (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:51 PM Response to Reply #60 |
83. and if they're going to have a Reformation |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:22 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. LOL. |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:32 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Funny you should use the term "Islamophobe" |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:43 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. anti-anti-Islamophobes? |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:37 PM Response to Reply #49 |
75. gay bashing is a good enough reason for me to turn a deaf ear |
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kodi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:06 PM Response to Reply #47 |
59. hey Doc brush up on your Islamic history before throwing insults around |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:23 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. Thank you for your thoughtful and insighful post. |
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VirginiaDem (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:29 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. good post |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:25 PM Response to Reply #59 |
69. very nice analysis; there seems to be a certain intolerance |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 07:24 AM Response to Reply #69 |
155. We can intellectualize this to death ... |
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Charles19 (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-04 02:29 PM Response to Reply #59 |
281. Enlightenment for Christianity |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:04 PM Response to Reply #42 |
58. Islam has been reforming and morphing since its inception in |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:35 PM Response to Reply #58 |
74. Agree and of course I don't think anyone disputes that Islam |
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VirginiaDem (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:42 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Why are Jews not even allowed in the country? |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:57 PM Response to Reply #77 |
87. I didn't know that but then again women can't drive there |
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PsychoDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 11:12 PM Response to Reply #77 |
95. Israel is also picky |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 11:20 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. can you explain? I thought American tourists are welcome |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 02:49 AM Response to Reply #99 |
142. I can explain... |
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PsychoDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 06:54 AM Response to Reply #142 |
149. What Violet said. |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 07:15 AM Response to Reply #142 |
154. No sane nation invites people into to it that want to help the other side |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 12:05 AM Response to Reply #95 |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 02:30 AM Response to Reply #77 |
140. They are allowed in the country... |
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TR Fan (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 07:06 AM Response to Reply #77 |
151. No drunks or Jews |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 11:47 PM Response to Reply #74 |
107. The post I was referring to-- shows that some do hold that Islam |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 02:41 AM Response to Reply #74 |
141. Intolerance... |
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VirginiaDem (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 07:34 AM Response to Reply #141 |
157. None of us are doing that... |
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VirginiaDem (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:37 PM Response to Reply #58 |
76. Sure religions change all the time |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:59 PM Response to Reply #76 |
88. InTurkey, the government pays the salaries of the mullahs to keep them |
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VirginiaDem (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 11:07 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. Turkey's an interesting country |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 11:13 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. From what very, very little I know about it, I think Turkey |
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kodi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:52 PM Response to Reply #58 |
84. you do understand the reference was to mysticism in Islam didn't you? |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 11:49 PM Response to Reply #84 |
109. I'm confused-- the post I responded to was referring to the need of a |
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HannibalBarca (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 08:44 AM Response to Reply #42 |
162. Exactly, well said the first post I actually fully agree with here. |
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PsychoDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
86. II guess you missed... |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 12:37 AM Response to Reply #86 |
121. Thanks PsychoDad-- |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 05:07 AM Response to Reply #13 |
147. No you have not read the Koran |
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Astarho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 12:16 PM Response to Reply #13 |
170. I've read the Koran |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 01:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
173. Read the Bible. First Samuel 15:2-29 for example. n/t |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
20. Why can't they be like the government we installed in Afghanistan? |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 08:44 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. There's not enough socks and googly eyes. |
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Boosterman (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:08 PM Response to Reply #20 |
61. Thats somewhat true |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 11:02 PM Response to Reply #20 |
91. LOL but you have to look at another bright side; we are still |
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Sara Beverley (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
22. So what about the dragging of a man behind an auto and the |
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flying_blind (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:13 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. Tell it. n/t |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
37. Don't forget Jim Jones and his crew. They were real superstars n/t |
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distantearlywarning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
53. This reminds me of all the people who insist that vote fraud |
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Boosterman (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:13 PM Response to Reply #53 |
62. Yeah its a logical disconnect that alienates a lot of voters |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:32 PM Response to Reply #53 |
72. That was probably one of the best posts I read on this topic. |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
79. In Egypt today gays are being trapped |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
48. I am glad you posted this article |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
52. I hope Europe is losing its faith in fundamentalism, not Christianity or |
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VirginiaDem (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:22 PM Response to Reply #52 |
66. It's the Times, for goodness sake |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:43 PM Response to Reply #66 |
78. there is a good graphic of immagration pattterms that comes with this |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:53 PM Response to Reply #78 |
85. Here it is |
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VirginiaDem (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 11:11 PM Response to Reply #85 |
94. It's interesting that the percentages |
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Flagg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 08:00 AM Response to Reply #85 |
159. There aren't 6 million muslims in France. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 08:32 AM Response to Reply #159 |
161. Thank you for the clarification |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
73. Personally I like immigration as long as people bring the good stuff |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:50 PM Response to Reply #73 |
82. too bad we can't ask Theo Van Gogh |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 11:45 PM Response to Reply #82 |
106. same thing crossed my mind |
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fortyfeetunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
90. It's all in the interpretation |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 11:24 PM Response to Reply #90 |
100. I think you may be on to something n/t |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 11:50 PM Response to Reply #90 |
110. Bingo! |
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fortyfeetunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 01:45 AM Response to Reply #110 |
138. I take chocolate cigars only!!!! n/t |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 12:07 AM Response to Reply #90 |
115. Yep. They say such docs are NOT "living breathing instruments" |
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PsychoDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 07:04 AM Response to Reply #90 |
150. Agreed. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
114. Deleted message |
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116. Deleted message |
Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 12:23 AM Response to Reply #116 |
118. Fascinating. I wonder what separates those of us who focus hostility |
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flying_blind (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 12:32 AM Response to Reply #118 |
120. excellent first choice |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 01:16 AM Response to Reply #118 |
132. you, you dirty rotten neocon hater (LOL) |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 01:17 AM Response to Reply #119 |
133. I see. So, your point is an intentional inflamation of anti-semitism,... |
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NIGHT TRIPPER (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 01:39 AM Response to Reply #133 |
136. maybe the idea is keeping track |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:27 AM Response to Reply #136 |
144. Tracking responses has become a sort of embarassment, eh. |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 01:28 AM Response to Reply #119 |
134. I suspect this is his usual shameless pandering, don't you? |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 01:44 AM Response to Reply #134 |
137. In other words, an edict for propaganda purposes? |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 02:08 AM Response to Reply #137 |
139. I've been trying to wake up (from the nightmare) since 2000 |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 10:20 AM Response to Reply #119 |
166. Perfect, now all * handlers have to do to SERVE the Global Community is .. |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 07:49 PM Response to Reply #166 |
263. A common religious edict: it is evil for the powerful to impose its will |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 05:00 AM Response to Original message |
145. 2 boys commit murder. Gee, we sure don't have any of that in the USA! |
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LiberteToujours (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 05:06 AM Response to Original message |
146. First of all... |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 07:28 AM Response to Original message |
156. This is a sad story. |
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cleofus1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
177. I'm dumbfounded... |
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hel (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
178. Europe had faith in Islam??? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
190. Looks like you crashed, you ignorant Nazi fuck. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
193. The enemy of my enemy may not be my friend |
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hel (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 04:22 PM Response to Reply #193 |
222. And what is 'religious tolerance' anyway? |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 05:55 PM Response to Reply #222 |
226. is the fundamentalism coming from within or is it external to Turkey |
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hel (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 04:31 AM Response to Reply #226 |
237. Both |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 11:49 AM Response to Reply #237 |
245. I don't blame you for being frightened. May I ask if you view the |
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hel (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 03:12 PM Response to Reply #245 |
257. So other men won't get excited sexually. |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 07:37 PM Response to Reply #257 |
262. Everything I have heard of Sharia makes me totally negative on it |
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hel (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-04 01:51 AM Response to Reply #262 |
277. No, Turkey is a secular democratic republic. |
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potone (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 03:38 PM Response to Reply #237 |
259. How nice to read messages posted from Turkey! |
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hel (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 04:08 PM Response to Reply #259 |
260. Hey, thanks! |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
210. Denial is not just a river in Egypt |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:57 PM Response to Reply #210 |
217. Oh no! Not the Democratic Republic of Pakistan?!? |
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hel (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 04:32 PM Response to Reply #217 |
223. Tajikistan is a former Soviet Union member n/t |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 07:09 AM Response to Reply #217 |
240. Not sure |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 10:28 AM Response to Reply #217 |
242. ElectroPrincess wrote: |
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someday (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 01:14 PM Response to Reply #242 |
251. GREAT IDEA |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
214. "My god's better than your god. My god's better than yours. |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 07:11 AM Response to Reply #214 |
241. Repression of women's rights have nothing to do with God |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
219. issue is violence against women |
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NIGHT TRIPPER (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 05:28 AM Response to Reply #219 |
239. WELL SAID !!!!! |
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hollowdweller (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
224. If the countries affected by terrorisim banned immigration from any nation |
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NIGHT TRIPPER (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 05:15 AM Response to Reply #224 |
238. sounds like you're promoting racial "purity" |
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hollowdweller (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 10:35 AM Response to Reply #238 |
243. Nope. I'm not saying doing it forever and I'm not saying a blanket ban |
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NIGHT TRIPPER (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 01:24 PM Response to Reply #243 |
252. but churches promote ethnic "purity" |
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hollowdweller (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 09:12 PM Response to Reply #252 |
270. What gives us the right to impose on the rest of the world our "laws" |
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someday (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 12:18 PM Response to Reply #224 |
248. .4% |
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JohnLocke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 02:12 AM Response to Original message |
236. Indeed (nt). |
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fshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
258. This is biased |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 07:27 PM Response to Reply #258 |
261. Try Saudi Arabia? |
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hollowdweller (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 09:14 PM Response to Reply #261 |
272. Bush has got his nose so far up their asses nothing will ever happen to |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-04 12:13 AM Response to Reply #272 |
275. You put that so well, Yeah, the Bush Doctrine: if you have oil, |
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CHICKEN CAPITOL USA (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 08:08 PM Response to Reply #258 |
264. GREAT observation |
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BonjourUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
266. It is rarely only a question of religious behavior or belief. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
269. Who is the new DUer called Name removed? Seems like a nice enough fellow |
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FECvAkins (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-04 12:58 PM Response to Reply #269 |
278. KICK |
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cosmosis (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-04 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
282. the true nature of Islam? |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-04 03:28 PM Response to Reply #282 |
283. Thanks for the recommendation. |
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plasticsundance (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-04 03:45 PM Response to Reply #283 |
284. It is absurd |
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