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Rose Siding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:14 PM Original message |
Top Official: U.S. Wants Cuba 'Liberation' |
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da_chimperor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. So Mr. Noriega wants to become the new leader of Cuba? This seems familiar |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
2. Oh shit, don't tell me we're gonna INVADE Cuba ... that's just |
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alittlelark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
20. It's just so, so....60's..... n/t |
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BayCityProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
3. Lets focus |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Haven't you noticed yet? We don't do stability anymore |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Stability is so previous administration! awol is single handedly |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 04:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
105. Palestine? Where's that? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 02:20 AM Response to Reply #105 |
113. Under Israel's jackboot! |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 09:21 AM Response to Reply #105 |
116. This might help you - |
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distantearlywarning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
4. Well, at least Cuba is not too far away and fairly small. |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. In return for getting Florida in the red column.... |
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Liberty Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 02:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
37. Cuban cigars. |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 12:47 PM Response to Reply #37 |
76. Castro quit cigars and won a WHO award for Cuba's anti smoking campaign. |
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Carl Brennan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
5. Noriega and Bush mean reinstituting drugs, gambling and prostitution. |
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MileHiStealth (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 11:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
25. Jack Ruby than went to Cuba to get Trafficante released ... |
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Carl Brennan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 12:56 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. That is in Doug Valentine's book "Strength of the Wolf". Great |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:51 AM Response to Reply #5 |
41. Santo Trafficante was a true scuzball.I'm sure you knew he was a friend to |
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Carl Brennan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 09:58 AM Response to Reply #41 |
67. Excellent post JL. More on Ruby's link to Trafficante and Poppy |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
7. Do they do ANYTHING but threaten other countries? |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
9. When do our citizens get liberated? |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. You mean like helping the homeless? |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Bush has turned maniacal in his nation building |
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zann725 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 03:45 AM Response to Reply #17 |
114. He doesn't help them in other countries either...unless their country has |
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ninkasi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 12:56 AM Response to Reply #9 |
30. When the poor of our country are helped... |
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Menshevik (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
10. We already have a military base there |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
11. I sais they should have done it instead of Iraq |
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hollowdweller (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
12. Wonder how the Cubans in FL who voted for Bush would feel if we "liberated |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. They won't care a bit |
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Florida_Geek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Excuse me |
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Abe Linkman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
15. bushco wants a place to "showcase" privatization of everything |
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MisterP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:08 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. besides Iraq, where they've privatized everything but the kitchen sink |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 11:41 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. And it's been a disaster |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
19. Bush's aim is global fascism |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
21. Noriega: "The transition essentially is under way today" |
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guajira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
23. Cuba has no Homeless, Has Almost 100% Literacy, Healthcare |
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mrstick (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-04 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
26. NeoCon path to a better cuba: |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
27. Noriega should be in jail |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
28. Maybe, Fidel and Putin will become soul mates,... |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 02:21 AM Response to Reply #28 |
35. The Far Right Wing Religious Zealots truly believe |
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mrbassman03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 12:54 AM Response to Original message |
29. We "Liberated" Cuba from the Spanish in the early 1900s. |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
32. If Bush doesn't think the US is enough of a global pariah |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
33. I don't think Cuba would be a piece of cake |
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KDLarsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 01:58 AM Response to Original message |
34. ".. exposed the repressive nature of the regime.." |
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Liberty Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 02:34 AM Response to Original message |
36. Cuba, the 51st state. Coming soon. |
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OutsourceBush (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 02:45 AM Response to Original message |
38. Will Bush liberate Guantanamo while he is at it? |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 02:50 AM Response to Original message |
39. I'll probably get nailed for this but I have to say that some things |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 04:05 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Isn't that up to the Cubans in Cuba to decide? |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 06:15 AM Response to Reply #42 |
50. Exactly |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:36 PM Response to Reply #42 |
89. I don't think it is always up to the citizens to decide. There are some |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 04:11 PM Response to Reply #89 |
95. But sitting back |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 04:13 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Hey trust me buddy...I did everything but sit back during this election. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 04:18 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. I and millions of others disagree with EVERYTHING bunkerboy did/does. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 04:19 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Everything...seriously? Even Afghanistan? eom |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 04:56 PM Response to Reply #100 |
108. Yes. Including Afghanistan. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 04:16 PM Response to Reply #89 |
98. You sure are a poster boy for Mississippi's awful educational system! |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 04:27 PM Response to Reply #98 |
103. Um...not from Mississippi, happen to go to law school here. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 10:36 AM Response to Reply #89 |
121. Like bu$h*? |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 04:29 AM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Nailing you |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 05:16 AM Response to Reply #39 |
47. The world needs to be released from Bush's grip |
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SlavesandBulldozers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 08:39 AM Response to Reply #39 |
60. why not make a list of all the places you'd like the US to invade |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:39 PM Response to Reply #60 |
90. A bit irrational relative to my post don't you think? I never said |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 04:05 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. The people |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 04:11 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. I always saw that Cuban-Americans disliked Castro hence they |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 04:20 PM Response to Reply #96 |
101. Easily corrected |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 04:25 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Well, I am skeptical of Americans because we are ill-informed |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 04:43 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. informed |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 09:01 AM Response to Reply #39 |
63. If you are so into bush and his invasions |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:40 PM Response to Reply #63 |
91. Ahem...invasions? Come on guys...read the post and the article. EOM |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 02:58 PM Response to Reply #39 |
83. America "needs to be released" from the Religious Right's grip |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:07 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Thanks for your post. I didn't know this. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:29 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. The Cuba-America Jewish Mission |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:49 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. They're great. So much to study here! |
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arikara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 04:06 PM Response to Reply #39 |
94. What business is it of bush or the US, pray tell... |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 04:51 PM Response to Reply #39 |
107. Are you sure you're in the right place? |
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NurseLefty (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:13 AM Response to Original message |
40. Carnival Cruises, Taco Bell, Disney Havana |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 04:14 AM Response to Original message |
43. There are still many people who are unaware of Kennedy's changing attitude |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 07:44 AM Response to Reply #43 |
54. My Daddy always said listen to their words but judge 'em by their actions. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 07:52 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. The plans to transform relations were in the earliest, unpublicized stage |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 08:46 AM Response to Reply #55 |
61. Say one thing, do another. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 08:57 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Tremendous site! I've just swiped it for my own future reference. |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 04:14 AM Response to Original message |
44. maybe Cuba is why bush hates Canada |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 04:22 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. You're so right. Trudeau's and Castro's friendship spanned decades. |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 05:23 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. I miss PT |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 06:00 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I'll bet his sons will.They've been given an education in politics already |
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flordehinojos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 06:24 AM Response to Original message |
51. Bush wants LIBERATION OF CUBA? PLEASE TRANSLATE into |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 06:45 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. I've read that the Diaz-Balarts' dad was active in Cuban politics |
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flordehinojos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 09:25 AM Response to Reply #52 |
65. there was a Lincoln Diaz-Balart who used to be a congressman in theBatista |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 07:16 AM Response to Original message |
53. History... |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 08:11 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Just looked up Shackley. It's said he was the "blond ghost" |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 08:26 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. That's the man. |
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American Tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
57. How retro |
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LakeCohoon (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
59. Like Arafat |
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Rose Siding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 10:17 AM Response to Reply #59 |
69. Why? |
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LakeCohoon (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 08:08 AM Response to Reply #69 |
115. Because I think it would be good for the people of Cuba. n/t |
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Rose Siding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 09:44 AM Response to Reply #115 |
117. Interesting. Do you live in Cuba? |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 09:49 AM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Here are the stats that confirm your post |
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Rose Siding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 11:04 AM Response to Reply #118 |
123. Thanks Mika |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 10:07 AM Response to Reply #115 |
119. You could use some time brushing up on the facts. |
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anarchy1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
64. Why can't we make all these criminals go away? |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
66. Noriega's statements just unite the Cuban people behind their hero, Castro |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
68. Oh, just like we "Liberated" Haiti, right? |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 12:05 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Haitians who make it to Cuba are not deported back. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 12:40 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Found something interesting. A Haitian-Cuban singing group |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
71. Still fighting the Kennedys |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 12:34 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Not fighting Kennedys |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 12:43 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Fair enough. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
73. Oh shit. I hope the recount works in Kerry's favor. Dunno how |
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rhyfeddu (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
77. We just watched "Fog of War"... |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 01:57 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Cuba has no powerful ally, as it did when RUSSIA moved the missiles |
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rhyfeddu (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 02:19 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Look, I wasn't claiming to know the current situation... |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 02:23 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Allies |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 02:44 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. That sounds hopeful..... So glad for Spain's wisdom in choosing Zapatero |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:01 PM Response to Reply #77 |
84. Is it okay for the US to deploy nukes in England while USSR could not |
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rhyfeddu (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:26 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Some assumptions are being jumped at here... |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 03:30 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. It is US policy to launch nukes preemptively against any country |
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rhyfeddu (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 05:31 PM Response to Reply #88 |
109. Maybe we're just arguing semantics here... |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
78. By worsening life for them through enacting harsher restrictions? n/t |
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Piperay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
106. Cuba another place |
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Az_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
110. Never happen. Cuba doesn't have any oil |
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Gloria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-04 10:37 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Ah, but there IS oil offshore and Europe is already nosing around.... |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 10:27 AM Response to Reply #111 |
120. That's so amazing, knowing Cubans have already read the plans Bush has |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 10:39 AM Response to Reply #120 |
122. Americans would respect Cuba for the gains made, post Batista |
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JohnLocke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-04 02:14 AM Response to Original message |
112. Kick (nt). |
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