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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 08:46 PM
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Al-Qaeda could stage seaborne attack within 12 months: security firm
LONDON (AFP) - The Al-Qaeda network could stage a seaborne attack within the next 12 months, in a tactical strategy to drive maritime shipping costs and travel times to record highs, a British private defense firm said.


A waterborne attack would be "spectacular -- a big bang to get people's attention'" in an ideal Al-Qaeda plot, Aegis Defence Systems intelligence director Dominic Armstrong said

~snip~

Aegis Defence System, founded in 2003 by former SAS officer Tim Spicer, won a 293-million-dollar US defense contract to coordinate private security contractors in Iraq as well as to provide its own security units.


One of its subsidiaries, Hudson Trident, is a maritime security consultancy.

more: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1538&ncid=732&e=2&u=/afp/20041210/wl_uk_afp/britainattackssea


Foreign Office quizzed Tim Spicer over coup plot

Antony Barnett and Martin Bright
Sunday December 5, 2004
The Observer

Britain's most notorious mercenary, Colonel Tim Spicer, was called into the Foreign Office to discuss the alleged coup in Equatorial Guinea more than a month before the illegal putsch attempt, The Observer can reveal today.

Spicer was quizzed by a senior Foreign Office official in early February, after the government received intelligence reports on 29 January detailing preparations for the planned coup in the oil-rich west African state. The reports specifically mentioned a British military firm formerly connected to Spicer.

The former Scots Guards officer told officials he had no knowledge of any plans to overthrow President Teodoro Obiang. The disclosure that Straw had seen intelligence naming a British company in relation to the illegal coup is in marked contrast to the original categorical assertions by his officials that the government had no prior knowledge of the plans.

Spicer is an old friend of Simon Mann, the former SAS captain who is in jail in Zimbabwe after being accused of masterminding the plot. Sir Mark Thatcher is also under arrest in South Africa after being accused of funding the alleged plot.

more: http://politics.guardian.co.uk/foreignaffairs/story/0%2C11538%2C1366944%2C00.html

Aegis is the UK's Halliburton....create a crisis and get tons of $$$$$ in contracts. :puke:
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Quetzal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 08:48 PM
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1. This just came out 5 minutes ago on Yahoo
Edited on Thu Dec-09-04 08:48 PM by Quetzal
Government Says Terrorists May Use Lasers

WASHINGTON - Terrorists may seek to down aircraft by shining powerful lasers into cockpits to blind pilots during landing approaches, federal officials are warning in a bulletin distributed nationwide.

The memo sent by the FBI (news - web sites) and the Homeland Security Department says there is evidence that terrorists have explored using lasers as weapons, though there is no specific intelligence indicating al-Qaida or other groups might use lasers in the United States.

"Although lasers are not proven methods of attack like improvised explosive devices and hijackings, terrorist groups overseas have expressed interest in using these devices against human sight," the memo said.

"In certain circumstances, if laser weapons adversely affect the eyesight of both pilot and co-pilot during a non-instrument approach, there is a risk of airliner crash," the agencies said.

more...

Government Says Terrorists May Use Lasers

Some of these "potential" terrorist tactics are just getting downright ridiculous.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:26 PM
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19. Has Condi and Powell verified this?
I won't consider it until they verify it, then I will consider it less.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:42 PM
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25. What about poison pens, and model airplanes?
We've got to make sure we cover every angle here. :D
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:17 PM
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34. Let's not forget the Anthrax corp dusters of DOOOOOM!
We're DOOMED! DOOMED, I say! DOOOOOMED!!!
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 02:24 PM
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50. Substituting round black bombs for bowling balls in bowling alleys
Can you imagine the devastation?
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:16 PM
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33. Al Qaeda Could Stage Revival of "Cats" Within 6 Months
Edited on Thu Dec-09-04 11:18 PM by johnfunk
LONDON (Variety) - The Al-Qaeda network could stage a revival of Andrew Lloyd Webber's highly successful musical "Cats" within the next six months, in a tactical strategy to drive American musicals from both London's West End and New York's Theater District, a British arts management agent close to MI5 said.

A new production of "Cats" would be "spectacular -- a big bang to draw theatergoers away from far superior musicals" in an ideal Al-Qaeda plot, Columbia Artist Management intelligence director Art Hohlplfaffer said.

~snip~

Columbia Artist Management, founded in 1930 by William Paley and Arthur Judson, has been heavily rumored to have ties to the performing arts operations of Al Qaeda. Hohlpflaffer denies his management firm's formal ties to Al Qadea but did admit to having contact with senior members of the terror organization: "Our operatives have spoken to Ayman al-Zawahiri; it turns out that he is not only a logistical mastermind when it comes to spectacular attacks against the Satanic infidel crusaders, but a pretty impressive choreographer. Big admirer of Martha Graham, Twyla Tharp."
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TheSubliminableKid Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:27 PM
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36. A Cats revival, now THAT scares me
Time to kick the Broadway Alert level from tangerine to fuchsia.
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Bono71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:22 PM
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44. Or they could go nuclear and remake Ishtar.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 09:09 AM
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55. HAHAHA!!
Those blasted jellicle cats!
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 08:49 PM
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2. I have my money on terrorist mall walkers. . .
that's where the next attack will come. MARK MY WORDS! Be afraid. . .
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 08:53 PM
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3. Did Saddam nuke us from those unmanned drones yet?
No?

Wow, we are lucky.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 02:20 PM
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48. You mean the Pterodactyls of Pterror?
Man, I still wake up in a cold sweat thinking about those!! :eyes:
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 08:54 PM
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4. and iraq could nuke us in 45 min.
AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA , how much coke do you have to do to make that shit up
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 08:54 PM
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5. What else would a private security firm say?
They don't make a profit telling us everything is safe and sound.
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 09:38 PM
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13. and oh boy
they sure do want boats!
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 08:56 PM
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6. And in a related story .........
Disney reports their Big Red Boat will now have Big Bad Thugs aboard as ..... uh "security"

May I haff your papahs, plees.

Und vatt didju puhchus ven ashore?
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 08:58 PM
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7. Terrorists may be planning to disrupt
television transmissions during the Super Bowl in an attack that could deprive fans of beer commercials.
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Boosterman Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 09:33 PM
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11. Hey now dont dog beer commercials
They are probably the best written things on Main Stream TV.
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Dr Batsen D Belfry Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 09:04 PM
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8. Wow, just in time to bail out Rumsfeld
and from BOTH sides of the Atlantic.

This stinks to high heaven.

DBDB
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 09:10 PM
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9. And Al Qaeda is negotiating with SMERSH as we speak.
The project with Dr. No didn't pan out though, which is good news.
I bet this one would fly like an F-16 on Fox and "Clear" Channel.
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 01:26 PM
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45. I thought Al Queda was working with KAOS NOT SMERSH
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MatrixEscape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 09:20 PM
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10. Ah ... but the real danger might come in your
Twinkies! Keep an eye out for daisy cutters in your snack foods! Is that REALLY cream filling or ... BOOM!
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 09:35 PM
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12. media reports bush lies, incompetence...TERRA ALERT!!! TERRA TERRA TERRA!!
*yawn*

What the fuck ever.
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 09:47 PM
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14. Uh oh. Better give Haliburton $10 million more tax payer money
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 09:49 PM
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15. Got sum distractin to do
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 09:52 PM
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16. Al Queda could do so many things
It is surprising how little they actually seem to do, given all the possibilities out there. It makes you wonder sometimes.
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nagbacalan Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 09:52 PM
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17. My super secret al-Qaeda decoder ring says otherwise.
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:22 PM
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18. Miami Cruise Ships
Little bang from unwatched storage areas in iraq, ferried in from Nassau. Not a lot of money and a very big bang. Think USS Cole on one of Carnvales 100,000 Ton ships.

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:31 PM
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20. Terrorists take Tommy Thompson's advice, instead, surprising the world.n/t
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:35 PM
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21. so if we put this all together....
a computer hacking will alter the course of a university lab's laser, knock down several planes from the sky by blinding the pilots, which will then crash into multiple boats heading into dock, igniting all those cargo boxes filled with the stolen plastic explosives, releasing biological weapons which will cripple our food supply which will starve immigration officers allowing nuclear weapons in suitcases to be stowed and exploded in each major american city. k, check, i think i got it.

this is the house that jack built. this is the terrorist who hacked the code, which triggered the laser, that crashed the plane...
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:12 PM
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30. Aw, poo, I spewed pop reading your post,...
,...hilarious. :bounce:
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:37 PM
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22. What is all this "terrorists can attack us like so" shit, anyway? Bait?
Are they TRYING to get Al Kayda to hit us by one of the above-mentioned methods?

"Hey, you know it would really hurt us if Al Kayda attacked with nail clippers and toothpaste! We really hope they don't hit us with those."

Weak. The most obvious method is the one they don't dare to mention: a suitcase nuke in a major city. How exactly are we going to defend against that one? They can't say.
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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 03:16 AM
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39. Well, they DO need an 'excuse' for the draft.
;)
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:40 PM
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23. Bush was worried about submarines sneaking up the Arkansas River.
And taking out the Clinton Library. (No kidding)

I do not doubt something is coming, the assholes in the WH are too damn stupid to stop a mugger.
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FreeCajun Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 02:15 PM
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47. Don't underestimate them.
These are evil people we are dealing with, and cunning as the serpent coiled within them. This sounds like a MIHOP event in the making.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 02:35 PM
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52. They may think some Democrats are getting too independent
which could cause trouble, if we disenchant the mindless tools who support them. Maybe they think we need to be nudged into line.

A good old-fashioned MIHOP could really get the ball rolling, and sew enough confusion we couldn't climb up out of it until the NEXT election.
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 09:15 AM
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56. I agree.
They are priming us for the next installment of terror.

The sheeple are being kept scared as well as being programmed to accept the notion without question that Al Q is behind the attack
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:42 PM
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24. Yes, carrying special hip mounted lasers.n/t
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:48 PM
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26. This Possibility Has Been In the News Over A Year Now
That al Qaeda could launch a seaborne attack on some target or other has been a possibility for well over a year. A Mark Schapiro wrote an article in the Atlantic Monthly magazine titled The Lawless Sea and part of the article speculated that al Qaeda controlled at least several tramp freighters. Crew such ships with fanatics, stuff the hulls with explosives, and terrorists could make a pretty big bang. I would guess that if al Qaeda is unable to launch an attack on either the mainland US or some of its island territories or commonwealth, it might well have a go at some Caribbean playground frequented by large numbers of American or western European tourists.

I might not trust the wanna-be kleptocrats ruining the USA or their tools, but I fear that al Qaeda threatens all of us.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:57 PM
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28. Well, What is Bush's advice?
Last time it was duct tape and plastic sheets.

Like I said, when Bush, Condi, and Powell warn us, I will consider it...less.
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 09:26 AM
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40. Gee Dubya's Advice
Generalissimo Gee Dubya's advice would no doubt be for worried Americans to have prayer meetings and to vacation on inland American lakes rather than go near salt water. Kinda' rough on the folks with vacation homes on the beach or from people who make their living on the beach crowd, though--even for such folks in such "red" states like Texas, Florida, Georgia, the Carolinas, etc.

BTW, to get some idea of what it would be like during such an attack, there was a devastating ammunition ship explosion at a Canadian port during World War One. The explosion was so destructive, there was a prayer that said "From Hell, Hull, and Halifax, Deliver us, Oh, Lord" that was prayed for years afterwards.

No doubt that's another little unpleasant bit of historiography forgotten by Banana Republican apparatchikii.
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belab13 Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:53 PM
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27. Funny stuff tonight folks... thanks for rallying my spirits!!!
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:09 PM
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29. Is Halliburton selling them a used sub?
Holy Batman Movie!
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:12 PM
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31. experts say My House could be targeted -- I need millions to fortify!!
Please, US government, give me millions to build a shield around my house! Top-level but unnamed sources say that my house could be targeted by a "spectacular" air-borne attack!

I picture a big moat around my house ....... a bullet proof dome ..... security guards keeping out the riff-raff ....... and spy-babes in spandex bringing me soft drinks
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:14 PM
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32. My worst serious fear .......
A crude nuclear bomb in an overseas shipping container. Maybe even with a few "suiciders" inside the container with some flashlights, crackers, a falafal or three, and a portapotty.

They arrive at the Port of Newark or Philadelphia or Baltimore or Norfolk and push the button.

That would be a bad start to anyone's morning.

As I see it, this is an easy one, assuming such a device could be assembled. There's virtually no security on these containers. They're all pretty annonymous. They have shady histories until they get here. Hard to track where any given container has been. They don't need to start in the Middle East.

Can any say "loose Soviet nukes?"

And by the way, if anyone thinks any open discussion of these notions gives a "special clue" to a determined terrorist, you're daft. The people who do this sort of thing are probably smarter than 1/2 of us on DU, maybe smarter. And they're determined. They don't need Tommy Thompson to clue them about our food supply; they know more about such things than he does.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:19 PM
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35. OBL wanted to place fear into our lives and take away our freedom
Bush has obliged. No, thanks. Live free or die.
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 09:00 AM
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54. When the Mushroom Clouds Go Off
When the mushroom clouds go off from the detonations of ex-Soviet "nukular" warheads that were either stolen or sold on the black market because cheapskate Banana Republican-controlled Congresses wouldn't provide adequate funding for adequately guarding such stockpiles, right-wing pundits, politicos, and spin-doctors will be there to comfort the burned, the maimed, and the bereft with words of comfort like "It was all Bill Clinton's fault."
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Autobot77 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:55 AM
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37. Terrorists may try to attack with lasers also
Maybe they stole Dr. Evil's sharks with laser beams mounted on thier heads.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:59 AM
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38. Oops. Pirates of the Caribbean.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:10 PM
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41. Ooooooh, spooky KICK!! Pirates of the QAEDAbbean
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:13 PM
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42. What splendid timing...
...for * to be obsessed with getting the Presidential yacht back.
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:15 PM
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43. So 2 years into the War on Terra they are 12 months out from this.
How many months out were they before Der bush*ler started his catastophically successful war? 60 months? Never? 3 months?
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 02:02 PM
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46. Breaking........................
Terrorsists plan to use Hostess Twinkies in future attacks....more later...:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :silly: :wtf:
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radar Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 02:22 PM
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49. I miss those holiday terror alerts
Beware the Almanacs, ice coolers...

We're about due for those "large gift wrapped boxes" that may be explosive.

Maybe guys dressed as Santa are not really who they claim to be...

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 02:26 PM
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51. Gee whiz.. they are probably intensively training right now...
Edited on Fri Dec-10-04 02:27 PM by SoCalDem
We would be caught totally unaware... The feindish AlQaeda..will they stop at NOTHING???


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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 04:04 PM
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53. Homeland Security warnings
For Your Own Security




A little dead birdy told me that the country was under biological attack.




An escape plan for any microscopic organisms wishing to leave your body in the event of an attack.




In the event of an attack, you may want to relocate to Texas, a state well-protected by numerous militias and hillbillies.



Attend to the safety of others before your own. Yes, even if you're on fire.





Terrorists may try to injure you by placing small objects at the foot of the stairs. Make sure to check for such objects carefully before going up or down stairs during an attack.




Do not play Leapfrog during a terrorist attack.





Terrorists may use the overpowering stench of fish to drive you from your home. Make sure to stock up on potpourri and other fresh-smelling implements.




It is a bad idea to contemplate the meaning of reality during a terrorist attack.





Attatching high explosives to your car, truck, or SUV will deter terrorists from attacking your vehicle.




If a flaming terrorist rushes at you with a fish, calmly walk away and pretend he or she is not even there.






Escaping a terrorist attack is relatively easy if you are well-prepared.



It is hard to put food on your family.


The President knows this.
So do terrorists.





Major Radio has been terrorizing America for decades on end.




And for god's sake, cover your mouth when you sneeze! Really, that's just disgusting. . .


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