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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 08:54 PM
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(Gitmo)Detainees 'bashed, given drugs'
PRISONERS at the US detention centre in Guantanamo Bay had been beaten while blindfolded and handcuffed, terrorised by attack dogs and forced to take drugs, Australian detainee David Hicks said in an affidavit released today.


Hicks, 29, was one of the first prisoners to arrive at the camp in eastern Cuba in January 2002, where he was later joined by another Australian, Mamdouh Habib.

"At one point, a group of detainees, including myself, were subjected to being randomly hit over an eight-hour session while handcuffed and blindfolded," Hicks said in an affidavit sealed in August and released by his attorneys today.

"I have been struck with hands, fists, and other objects, including rifle butts. I have also been kicked

more: http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,11647533%255E2,00.html
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 09:00 PM
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1. david hicks, a cowboy who went on an adventure
at age 24. ended up in afghanistan in his persuit to understand islamic religion. sold to the americans as a terrorist for $10,000.
in prison for three years now, tortured isolated and fearful of madness.
i pray for him
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 09:40 PM
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2. worse
Edited on Thu Dec-09-04 09:41 PM by Djinn
was the capture of another Australian Mamdouh Habib - no proof he was ever in Afghanistan and he does have proof he was in Pakistan for the very reason he said he was.

He was first taken to Egypt - no legit reason other than the ability to torture him out of sight as he is an Australian citizen, according to former cell mates he has been told his wife and children (in AUstralia) have been killed.

Hicks did actually train with Afghan forces although there was NOTHING illegal about it at the time.

America will not subject it's OWN citizens to this "justice" why is it OK for citizens of the rest of the world?
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soaky Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:07 PM
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3. howard, ruddock etc
allow it to be ok...

didn't the brits (and others perhaps) demand, and get, the return of their nationals from gitmo?
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:11 PM
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4. The Brit's are complicate
and who knows how the other governments were paid off or what they've been threatened with.
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:45 PM
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7. yep
given that the US wont allow their own nationals to be subjected to it Australia is the only nation that has accepted it - makes me very very ill!

several people from a few nations have been released with no charges David and Mamdouh will probably be there forever.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:11 PM
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5. Another day in Bushenwald.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:18 PM
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6. First Dachau, then Buchenwald
The precedent is established in GITMO. A legal doctrine of torture is promulgated. Then Abu Ghraid. Who's next?
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:48 PM
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8. more info in The Guardian
Another charged detainee - accused al-Qaida paymaster Ibrahim Ahmed Mahmoud al Qosi of Sudan - alleged in a habeas corpus petition last month that interrogators wrapped prisoners in an Israeli flag, showed them pornographic photographs and forced them to watch military personnel having sex.

The military has acknowledged 10 cases of abuse since the detention mission began at Guantanamo, including a female interrogator climbing onto a detainee's lap and a detainee whose knees were bruised from being forced to kneel repeatedly.

Those cases are not among three incidents detailed in the FBI letter to Maj. Gen. Donald J. Ryder, the Army's chief law enforcement officer investigating abuses at U.S.-run prisons in Afghanistan, Iraq and at Guantanamo.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4664497,00.html
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KDLarsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:05 AM
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9. David Hicks offered a prostitute to spy on other gitmo prisoners!
Australia terror suspect offered prostitute - court

CANBERRA (Reuters) - An Australian terror suspect was offered the services of a prostitute by the U.S. military if he agreed to spy on other detainees held at the Guantanamo Bay base in Cuba, according to court documents.

In an affidavit unsealed by a U.S. District Court and seen by Reuters on Friday, David Hicks, a 29-year-old convert to Islam, said he was also beaten while blindfolded and handcuffed, threatened with weapons and had his head rammed into asphalt.

-Snip-

"Interrogators once offered me the services of a prostitute for 15 minutes if I would spy on other detainees. I refused," Hicks said in the affidavit, which is dated Aug. 5 and witnessed by his U.S. military lawyer Major Michael Mori.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=7047260
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 08:41 AM
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10.  * "family values" all the way to Gitmo
:eyes:
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 02:57 PM
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11. Faith based prisoner intimidation and bribery.
The mind tumbles in upon itself trying to imagine how people can treat others like this. It takes some real deviants.
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