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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:01 PM
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CITY, FED PROBES EYE PARDONGATE BILLIONAIRE AS A 'MAJOR PLAYER' IN SADDAM
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 09:02 PM by Must_B_Free
Investigators still do not know how recipients of the vouchers led to Rich, but say his relationship with Saddam goes back more than a decade.

http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/36359.htm

(meanwhile Cheney was doing business with Saddam out in the open in 2000, but I guess Clinton isn't involved in that...)
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:03 PM
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1. i saw this on the cover of The NY Post this morning
sounds like a right-wing fairy tale
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:03 PM
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2. Oh please...
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 09:04 PM by Tandalayo_Scheisskop
Consider the source.

On edit: Notice how Big Dawg's name just HAD to be injected in there? Next up: It's all his fault.
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fairyduster Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:11 PM
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4. Smokescreen
bushco can't supply or protect the troops in Iraq,soooooo we have to go back to Clinton pardoning Rich.

Everything is Clintons fault in the right wing fascists eyes.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:05 PM
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3. Is Marc Rich THIS guy?
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fairyduster Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:12 PM
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6. NO
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 09:13 PM by fairyduster
n/t
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:32 PM
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8. Oh?? Who is it in the picture, then?
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Pale_Rider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:46 PM
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11. Someone else with a hell lot more power ...
... than Rich to wage war.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:12 PM
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5. Wasn't a prominent neo con that pushed for the pardon of Rich?
Wasn't Rove or someone like that?
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fairyduster Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:24 PM
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7. I found something
Leonard Garment, White House counsel under Richard Nixon, and William Bradford Reynolds, the number-two person at the Reagan Justice Department. Both Garment and Reynolds worked for Rich – who would later show that he was right to trust in high-priced, politically connected legal help when Jack Quinn, former Clinton White House counsel, would do the crucial work to win Rich his pardon.
http://www.sfbg.com/focus/120.html
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:37 PM
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10. Israeli Prime Minister Barak and Nobel Prize winner Shimon Peres
Yea, and the sky is falling too.


WHY AN INVESTIGATION OF THE MARC RICH PARDON IS IMMINENT
By JOHN DEAN
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Friday, Feb. 02, 2001

Still, the fact that Congress has no real business investigating an exclusive presidential power, such as the pardon power, has never stopped such investigations in the past, nor will it stop this investigation. Congress is good at finding tenuous excuses to investigate whatever it wishes. Most likely Congress will claim it is investigating whether campaign money purchased the Rich pardon, or will invoke the old saw that it is doing it to inform the American people (Translation: we're doing it because of pure politics).

Without Clinton's Cooperation, Congress Can Learn Little

According to press accounts, former White House counsel Jack Quinn, who represented Rich, presented a "pardon package" to the White House for the president to consider; Quinn also advised the Department of Justice (the Deputy Attorney General) of his plans to seek a pardon directly from the president. Quinn has been criticized for not filing his request with the Justice Department. But neither the constitution nor any laws require that an application proceed via the Department of Justice.

Apparently the fact that Israeli Prime Minister Barak and Nobel Prize winner Shimon Peres personally solicited Clinton for a pardon of Marc Rich was an important factor in granting the pardon. Indeed, Barak called the president regarding this subject on at least two occasions. But how is the Congress going to obtain what may be the most important information about the pardon, the information conveyed in these conversations with Barak and Peres?

Neither Mr. Barak nor Mr. Peres is likely to have anything to do with this politically inspired investigation. And Congress cannot subpoena either Barak or Peres. Thus, unless the president volunteers this information, it may remain unknown, and its impact unknowable.
(snip)
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20010202.html

For anyone foolish enough to think a major part of US foriegn policy is not run out of the Kenessit I got a bridge for sale

Feith to 'Post': US action against Iran can't be ruled out
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1066352
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:34 PM
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9. Cheney's man in the White House now -
what's his name - Scooter ????? worked very hard for a pardon for Rich - remember old Scooter got called in when they were doing the hearings on Rich
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talk hard Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:53 AM
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12. This should read like this ...
"Investigators still do not know how ... led to Rumsfeld, but say his relationship with Saddam goes back more than a decade."

Hey, wait. I saw a picture of this.
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