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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:49 PM
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Researchers may have stopped HIV
Piscataway, N.J. — Researchers at Rutgers University have developed a trio of drugs they believe can destroy HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, according to a published report.

The drugs, called DAPYs, mimic the virus by changing shape, which enables them to interfere with the way HIV attacks the immune system.

Tests conducted in conjunction with Johnson and Johnson have shown the drug to be easily absorbed with minimal side effects. It also can be taken in one pill, in contrast to the drug cocktails currently taken by many AIDS patients.

“This could be it,” Stephen Smith, the head of the department of infectious diseases at Saint Michael's Medical Center in Newark, said.

The research has targeted reverse transcriptase, a submiscroscopic protein composed of two coiled chains of amino acids. It is considered HIV's key protein.

“Reverse transcriptase is very important in the biology of AIDS,” Dr. Smith said. “If you can really inhibit reverse transcriptase, you can stop AIDS.”

The optimism about R278474 stems from its potential to interfere with an enzyme that the virus needs to copy and insert itself into a human cell.

“We're onto something very, very special,” Dr. Arnold said.

http://tinylink.com/?JaBmYqJqaq
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:51 PM
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1. That's cool. eom
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:15 AM
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40. Oh, please let this be true!
Please let this suffering end. Please!
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GHOSTDANCER Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:59 PM
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72. You think the sufferings gonna end in Africa?
Even if they did create a cure, The pharacutical manufactures will keep them from the hands of the poor.
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 02:16 PM
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84. Exactly, or
BushCo. wont find that the crisis in afica is really that bad. hell he probably still thinks only gay people can get it.
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Bono71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 05:02 PM
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93. To Bush's credit, he did approve a huge increase in aids funding.
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Baconfoot Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:29 PM
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96. Only if you have a very strange definition of "huge" nt
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 10:54 PM
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101. but underfunded it like everything else.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 05:11 PM
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95. Frighteningly, many fundies think this
To them, the only way to spread it is through "homosexual contact," and therefore, whether the person contracting it is gay or not, at some point down the line it was a gay person's fault, and the person contracting it is also at fault for not hating and shunning gays.

I've been these people, and I know how their icky little minds work. (Someday I'll write a book about coming out of the fundie experience.)
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:52 PM
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2. Amazing! Be wonderful if this works!! n/t
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:55 PM
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4. Wonderful but, tragically, too late for so many.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:18 PM
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22. Yes, but...
millions more may well be saved. Not only from HIV but from all the other viral infections that can be prevented or cured from extensions off this research.
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:47 PM
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67. Yes, but...
... those millions are going to have to pay for it. So while Canadians, Europeans, and Americans with good health plans may have access, poor Americans, Africans and others worldwide will not have access.

Yay for science, boo for capitalism.
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legally blonde Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:53 PM
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3. WOW
that's awesome!
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:55 PM
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5. Dr. Arnold spoke to my class last week
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 09:59 PM by brentspeak
at Rutgers. His presentation was given to 1st year chem grad students to convince us to sign up with his research group for our Phd.
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George_S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:58 PM
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7. Cool! That must have been inspiring.
But was it enough?
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:00 PM
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11. I haven't decided yet
I've got till the 1st day of next semester to make my decision. He's a little more biology-oriented than chemistry-oriented, and I prefer chemistry.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:55 PM
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6. That would be cool if it works
Now just wait for the pharmaceutical companies to to try to sell this for as much as they can.

Am I cynical. You Bet.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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George_S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:59 PM
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8. Realism, that's all.
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:12 PM
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20. "They ain't never gonna cure AIDS"
There ain't no money in the CURE...the money's in the MEDICINE!"

--Chris Rock

We shall see, eh? :shrug:
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Chandler Stork Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 10:48 PM
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100. He's right. Same goes for cancer.
I gave up on terminal-illness charities when it hit me that since pharma makes more money on prolonged treatments, there's little motivation for R&D in curing anything. And now that the corporate sector sponsors so much of academic research, I doubt we'll see any real medical progress in terminal illnesses for a very long time.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:59 PM
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9. cool
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:00 PM
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10. A Nobel is in their future
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George_S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:05 PM
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12. Come to think of it, the wingnuts will HATE this...
... There goes their -

1. But you'll get AIDS!

2. Fags = AIDS.

3. Sex will kill you, like those old traditional-family-values-horror movies (pre Scream).

And they will have to figure a way to keep the cure from the 3rd world.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:07 PM
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14. Farwell is probably praying for a new disease as we speak.
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George_S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:10 PM
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17. Or he has Bush working on one in our WMD labs.
God said to.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 05:23 PM
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75. Falwell. I think.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 12:41 PM
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81. Just avoid sex with Falwell. n/t
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ALago1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:05 PM
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13. Holy Cow
I would be floored if Rutgers (my alma mater) was responsible for the first series of research that led to the elimination of HIV and AIDS.

I'm guardedly optimistic and hope this leads to nothing but good for those suffering with the disease.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:08 PM
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15. what's the source on this, please?
the link gives me a dead end. (please be something credible!)
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George_S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:11 PM
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19. link
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:08 PM
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16. we should spend money on this stuff, rather than killing brown people.
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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:10 PM
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18. But...but...gOD created AIDS to punish gays! So, sayeth Xtian Fundies.
How can man cure something that is viewed as a divine retribution for a (perceived) immoral act? Uh...

JB
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George_S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:12 PM
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21. Hey, don't complicate things
Think is black and white. It's easier on your head, and faith.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:22 AM
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51. Science defeats Religion.
yet again, as always.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:11 AM
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56. Agreed, there are some nutcases who will think this proves science is evil
Interfering with God's retribution against sinners and all that. After a while they will decide that God wanted this tribulation to end, and He will send another one bye and bye.

Fundie God - "I know, I can just send more kill-bots" (in the voice of Bender).
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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:43 PM
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23. I bet the freepers wouldn't post a thing about this
and I looked over at their site to find out I was right.

There goes one of their biggest moral issues (it probably would be better to call it a weapon then an actual issue to them)
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:09 PM
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27. Posted about twenty five minutes ago at FR
With the usual predictable anti-gay sentiments...
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St. Jarvitude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:34 AM
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58. Where?
I don't see it. But maybe it's because I'll only dive so far into the pile of shit that is FreakRepublic :puke:
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:31 PM
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64. Here:
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 05:15 PM
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73. I guess they don't know of anyone who has gotten HIV from
a blood transfusion or needle stick. Such cruelty over there. I"m glad that woman set them straight about Christ's compassion to those with sin in their lives.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 05:53 PM
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78. It does seem
to be a major problem for them. If we have 100% reliable birth control, and can cure 100% of all sexually transmitted diseases, then they lose the notion that their deity has disapproved of sexual activity. A pity, isn't it?
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 11:30 PM
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102. Like Arthur Ashe
He was no-doubt-about it heterosexual, with a gorgeous wife and beautiful child. But a transfusion with some contaminated blood doomed him. I met him a few years before he died, he looked extremely well, but at that time his illness was not disclosed. How I wept at that. He was a hero in my eyes.
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 12:47 PM
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82. Rodney needs to be more careful
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siliconefreak Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 01:33 PM
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83. they're truly disgusting, aren't they?
What sad, sad lives the Freepers must lead. Always blaming someone else for their problems. Very Nazi-like, wouldn't you agree?
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 05:03 PM
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94. They don't seem happy that there may be a cure for AIDS on the horizon.
Edited on Wed Dec-15-04 05:03 PM by w4rma
They actually seem ticked off that there may be a cure.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:54 PM
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24. Best freaking news I've read in a very very long time.
Now if this works and clinical trials really bear it out, I want to see this drug being offered not only to US AIDS patients but in Africa and Asia, too.

We need to be the good guys for once.
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:20 AM
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49. I truly hope this is it. Too many good people have died from this disease
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Flammable Materials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:57 PM
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25. Bill Hicks said:
"I dunno how much AIDS scares y'all, but I got a theory: the day they come out with a cure for AIDS, a guaranteed one-shot cure, on that day there's gonna be fucking in the streets, man."
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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:04 PM
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26. It would probably look like
VE looked in NYC almost 60 years ago in the streets of San Francisco and other places.
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piece sine Donating Member (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:56 PM
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38. ah...a sincere hedonist!
I share the happy uncurrent of your comments. You're the ONLY truly liberal person is this horribly cruel and illiberal thread. People here are eager to stand on dead bodies in order to throw cheap political darts. Remember when "liberal" implied you were a nice person?
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:13 AM
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39. I'm sure there will be something else to take it's place. eom
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Mabeline Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:16 PM
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28. Would'nt that be wonderful...
I hope it works..
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:35 AM
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60. Welcome Mabeline
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Mabeline Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 06:52 AM
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63. Thanks..
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:18 PM
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29. This will KILL maintenence drug sales. Stop it before it is too late.
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 11:18 PM by joeunderdog
<sarcasm off>

like the oil companies who buy up all the alternative feul engines, there'll be some oppostion to this. Let's hope it sees the light of day in the medicine cabinets of the afflicted.


GREAT news for so many.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:24 PM
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31. That was my first thought too
great news, but will big pharma allow such a discovery to cut into their profits?

Kind of like all those super efficient engine designs that GM buys and destroys. Let's pray that this sees the light of day!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:20 AM
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43. It sounds like a better "maintenance drug" to me.
It doesn't kill the HIV; it keeps the HIV from attacking the immune system and producing full-blown AIDS. Thus, this would be a drug that an HIV-positive person would take (probably) forever. While it's no doubt great news, it sure wouldn't eliminate the constant cash flow into the drug company. If anything, the patient will be able to pay longer. (It's not good 'business' to let your paying customers die.)

(Maybe I'm missing something.) :shrug:
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 12:38 PM
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80. the way I read this was that it stopped HIV from even replicating
in which case, the virus would eventually die out in the body and no longer even be present.

Am I correct in my interpretation? The article made it sound as if it were saying the drug interferes with a key protein, and it sounds as if that protein is involved with HIV replication somehow.

Tie the tubes off and the guy can't have kids, so to speak.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:23 PM
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30. Outstanding!
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:36 PM
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97. Outstanding Indeed!
:)
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:25 PM
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32. Wow. I hope this is what they think it is.
Talk about changing the world.
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freelight Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:29 PM
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33. This is wonderful.
The big pharmaceuticals are the enemy here, of course. They'll try to eliminate this drug, or failing that, control it and charge exhorbitant prices for it. I truly hope that the research teams working on this will have the hearts (and the juevos) not to let some pharmaceutical juggernaut have complete control.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:36 PM
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34. If true, this is TERRIFIC! n/t
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IHeart1993 Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:37 PM
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35. See Bush Administration
This is what happens whe you support science not just faith-based programs.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:38 PM
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36. wow, i really hope this is it! it'd be a real blessing!
before viruses were termed incurable because of the difficulty of their rapid mutations and them not technically being alive. but if this works, this will be wonderful! it means that we might have stumbled (oh, you know what i mean) the penicilin revolution against viruses, which would be an absolute revolution in medical treatment.

thank god this nation is now refocusing more on faith based research than actual scientific research. too much of a good thing y'know... :eyes:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:53 PM
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37. Johnson and Johnson
Hmm, I wonder how deep in the GOP muck they are?

But anyhow, hell with the GOP today. This is most excellent news and I hope to heaven it delivers us from the evil of AIDS all over the world.

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puerco-bellies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:19 AM
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41. I will celebrate my friends birthday tomorrow.
She has AIDS, and has been infected for a very long time. I met her through friends and had to ask her out 5-6 times before she said yes (it took tickets to I' Pagliacci and Carmina Burana to do the trick).

She said that she had nerve damage in her feet, so I always made sure to park close to where-ever and not walk too fast. A few weeks after we started hanging out together I was sitting in her apartment watching a movie and I asked her what was the deal with her health. She took a deep breath and this very sad look came over her face. She then said "Not only am I HIV positive, I have full blown AIDS". It took alot of trust on her part, because most people do not know about her condition.

I came to realize later that she fully expected me to jump-up and leave, like many others had before. We have since become very good friends and even though I move from the O.C. to the South Bay area we talk just about every day, and I visit just about every weekend.

Tomorrow I will drive down the rush-hour 405 to the O.C. to treat her to sushi and B-Day presents. She is very important to me, and I want to take stories like this to her as soon as I hear them, but she has heard too many. False hope to her is just as cruel as the disease.

A good day for my friend is a day that she can forget for just a minute that she is dying. Anything that reminds her of her situation pulls her into a very dark place.

I kind of fell for her early on (she is beautiful), but to her I've become too important of a friend to fuck it up with romantic entanglements. I have a key to her place and if she is hospitalized I am the one who gets her meds to where ever she is, and I also baby sit her obnoxious pizza pinching poodle.

Tomorrow we will eat at her favorite sushi restaurant, laugh, open presents, and I will secretly hope that this will pan out, and in time to save her. Over the last year or so, I have come to understand how hope can be a very cruel.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:15 AM
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48. Thanks for being a decent human being. We need more of those.
It ain't no hero thang. Just being available to another person who needs what we all need-companionship and caring for each other, before we ALL go eventually.



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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:24 AM
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52. Thats a very heart warming story.
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:02 PM
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68. I'm glad your friend has a friend like you
Edited on Tue Dec-14-04 04:03 PM by Strawman
I hope this or something will pan out for her too. Thanks for your story. It really lends perspective and compassion this discussion.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 03:20 PM
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88. How incredibly touching,...
,...my hurt heart melts.

"Hope" can be cruel.

But, the love you give,...is spectacular!!!

Your story actually renews my hope,...in human decency, dignity, compassion and love.

Thank you, so much.

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Sub Zero Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:19 AM
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42. herpes too possibly!
Preclinical Trials Show CytoGenix, Inc. Anti Genital Herpes DNA Formulation Virtually Eliminates Virus


http://www.cytogenix.com/en_us/Company/pr_genherpes.html
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:36 AM
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61. Welcome Sub Zero
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:25 AM
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44. The rightwingers are going to be very, very pissed off about this
No more dead gay people for them to crow about and malign. Bummer.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:47 AM
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45. It isn't the gays they want to die from the disease
Think about what race has the highest infection rate.

Now think about the continent.

Now think about the mineral wealth.

Long term planning, courtesy of the Neo-ConJob compassion machine.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:36 AM
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54. Naw.. I think they are prefectly happy having kids with
missing body parts dig it up for them.

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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:50 AM
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46. Now all we need is a cure for DAPYs...
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:53 AM
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47. The invention of the medication alone cures nothing. People have
to be able to afford it. Will it be made affordable for African children?
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:22 AM
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50. and you can have it for one million, billion dollars.
and not a penny less.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:27 AM
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53. I do not want to spoil the mood, but I must point out...
that it will take a while before we really know if it works, one research project does not a medicine make.

But, from what I can see, progress has been made, and I do believe that the cure will come someday.



Believe in science.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 04:42 PM
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91. The RH Research Community is Very Encouraged and Guardedly Optimistic
about this. I speak from experience! But you are indeed correct. It will be a while before the drug hits the streets.
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purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:09 AM
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55. I don't pray...
But I will make an exception tonight, just in case!
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:28 AM
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57. I'd do anything to make this work
pray, give up chocolate, dance naked and howl at the moon....anything. Please let this be true.

:)
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PittPoliSci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:10 AM
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59. I'd love to see this work...
Of course, I wonder if we're going to export the drug en masse to really try to kill AIDS if the cure is developed. Big drug money may want to just make money off of it, which is horrible.
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:44 AM
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62. Amazing
I pray it's true!
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:04 PM
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65. Question:
Please do excuse my ignorance concerning the subject, however, how much of this research success is due in part to stem cell research in any form? Additionally, there was news this morning about clinical trials to prevent the onset of Type I diabetes through vaccination, same question regarding these results.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 02:54 PM
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85. short answer-- nothing whatsoever....
Inhibiting reverse transcriptase is straight biochemistry and has nothing at all to do with stem cell research. I don't know anything about the diabetes announcement you mentioned, but it sounds unlikely that stem cell totipotency has anything to do with that research either.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 03:07 PM
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86. I saw that too on BBC World day before yesterday (Type I Diabetes)
Fantastic....on both counts.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:45 PM
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66. Can't supress life saving drugs once they are published.
It will be published in a journal, and that means countries that do not respect IP (patent) law will break the patent to produce it. Brazil and India have done this with existing AIDS cocktail drugs.

The AIDS situation has these drug companies bending over back-wards to accommodate the need for cheap drugs for third-world countries because they think once there is a breech in the drug-patent Dam the whole regime thing might fall apart.

I'm saying they are doing enough. They are doing just enough to stop a big PR disaster that may lead a larger examination of the patent monopoly/high drug cost racket.

So expect AIDS and other life threatening drugs to be more and more discounted so that they can keep making $110 a month for the 5 or 6 prescriptions we'll all be convinced we must have.

Plus if Rutgers gets public funds, the US Government owns part of the action although the Republicans dont go after the goverments fair share.
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:18 PM
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69. If this is true lets HOPE it will be affordable for all.
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 05:44 PM
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77. Three drugs is more affordable than dozens.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 05:33 PM
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76. No, but Chimp can cut off funding and tell the FDA not to approve it. n/t
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:25 PM
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70. sounds like some researchers are about to be killed
by the cocktail drug manufactures.

It does sound awesome.

Just remember, the health industry/medicine is the number one political contributer and number 2 is insurance companies. This is big business they are screwing with.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:26 PM
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71. of course Johnson and Johnson is big
so this is good...
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Liberal Grant WI Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 05:23 PM
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74. Awesome
that will be freakin awesome that one day we will have something that will hopefully destroy it. now its probably a good couple of years away but still..nice to see science doing well!
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Freebird12004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 12:22 PM
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79. Wonderful
Success would give the whole world a reason to celebrate !:toast:
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 03:15 PM
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87. Well, well. The "compassionate" God is back!!!
Operating through human potential and science!!!

All arrogant persecutors,...get OVER IT!!!
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 04:02 PM
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89. These guys are already way behind.
Magic Johnson did this already. By himself! :eyes:
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 04:32 PM
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90. Would the Christian Coalition demand it not be brought to market?
I could see it. Hell, Faux Snooze might put out fake stories about how it turns people into anteaters.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 04:58 PM
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92. I so, so wish this had happened ten years ago
but I will be grateful for anything that stops the river of misery known as AIDS.

Julie
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 09:52 PM
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98. Only $500,000 per pill.
What a deal! :party:
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 10:40 PM
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99. Man, if you can't get laid the day this pill come to market...
...you're once sorry bastard. Now, seriously, we really need this to happen quickly. Africa is getting worse by the day.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:04 AM
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103. i'm saying a prayer it ends AIDS for good
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