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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 03:30 PM
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Bush urges allies "not get caught up in past bickering" over Iraq
Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

link here.

Boy, they love for people to 'move on,' don't they--the election, the '16 words,' and now this.

<snip>
White House-AP -- President Bush is appealing to U-S allies to help in Iraq -- and in his words, "not get caught up in past bickering."
The administration's seeking a new U-N resolution to authorize peace-keeping troops and other contributions from member states. But France and Germany have voiced reservations.

During a meeting with Kuwait's prime minister, the president said, "Let us move forward." He said regardless of differences over the Iraq war, it's in everyone's interests for Iraq to be peacful and free.
</snip>
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 03:31 PM
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1. Bush is sounding more and more like Jon Lovitz with his
"Yeah.... That's the ticket!"
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 04:02 PM
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14. No, more like Homer Simpson
"Look son, we could spend hours arguing over who didn't pick who up after soccer practice, but that won't solve anything. I can see that you're mad, and to tell the truth, I'm pretty mad myself. So let's just get over this, okay?"

Damn, but you'd like to see these jerks admit just once that they miscalculated, misrepresented or something. Instead, we're treated to "That's all in the past" and "Too bad about all those dead soldiers, but it's nobody's fault, really." And then their brain-dead minions show up on this board to try to argue that we're really pursuing a noble cause in Iraq. Almost makes me want to take a swing at somebody.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 08:25 PM
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31. TOO BAD THEY'RE FUCKING CHEESE EATING SURRENDER MONKEYS
Coming from a CHIMPANZEE this is very laughable

What an MF Moron
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 03:32 PM
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2. in other words...
shut up and do what we tell you. Some things never change. :-(
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 03:34 PM
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3. Let's not argued about who killed who ...
This is supposed to be a happy occasion.
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 03:37 PM
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4. Beat me to it!
who... just as he was about to recover... felt the icy hand of death upon him!
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 03:43 PM
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8. He's going to tell!
He's going to tell! (NO SINGING!)
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 03:42 PM
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7. LOL!
That's EXACTLY what came to mind as I read the headline!!

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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 04:07 PM
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15. Heh heh heh

Iraq has greeeaat tracts of land.....
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 03:40 PM
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5. "it's in everyone's interests for Iraq to be peacful and free."
It's also in the best interests of the vast majority of the world if PNACian America is contained. We're right where the world wants us, trapped in a quagmire.
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E_Zapata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 05:00 PM
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26. I like that new word: "Panacian"
Ex of usage: The 'Panacians' came to power at the turn of the century, only to be pummeled into oblivion by world opinion...
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Starpass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 03:41 PM
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6. It's like backing your car over your neighbor's kid, killing the kid,
and the saying to the neighbor, "hey, let's stop squabbling over little things"........may the world give George the finger and help us give him the boot.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 03:44 PM
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9. this guy needs to learn the art of
groveling. I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 03:46 PM
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10. A peaceful, free Iraq certainly IS in everyone's best interest
and the ONLY way that has any chance of happening is if the US get's the fuck out and let's the UN take over...
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monobrau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 03:49 PM
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11. have some freedom fries
And STFU.

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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 03:55 PM
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12. I'm waiting for Bush to say "I'll forgive you if you forgive me and..
give me some money and troops for Iraq so that I can be re-elected next year."
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 03:58 PM
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13. punishing an ally
why would any sane leadership group want to punish allies for a difference of opinion <sarcasm off>
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 04:19 PM
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20. let us count the ways
http://www.revue-politique.com/6_01_07548.htm

Friday, April 25, 2003


US plan to punish France
By Elaine Monaghan


FRANCE may find itself shut out of US diplomatic business as a punishment for trying to derail the war in Iraq, despite

offering a post-invasion olive branch this week, US officials said yesterday.

Dick Cheney, the Vice-President, and Donald Rumsfeld, the Defence Secretary, are eager to make France pay, but have yet to settle a row with the State Department about whether to do so, officials told The Times.

Although there is no suggestion of trade sanctions or other severe moves, one idea is to expand the “quad” — the informal forum grouping Britain, France, Germany and the United States, which meets in secret to hammer out common positions.

...more...

http://www.newstribune.com/stories/042403/wor_0424030913.asp

excerpt:

Potential punishment was discussed Monday at a meeting of top assistants to Powell, Vice President Dick Cheney, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and Condoleezza Rice, the president's national security adviser.

Actions could include excluding France from some meetings with U.S. allies and bypassing the North Atlantic Council, of which France is a member.

Bypassing the council, NATO's governing body, could mean excluding France from U.S. deliberations with European and Canadian allies because France is not a member of NATO's Defense Planning Committee, where the talks would be shifted.

...more...

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,896573,00.html

US to punish German 'treachery'

Peter Beaumont, David Roseand Paul Beaver
Sunday February 16, 2003
The Observer

America is to punish Germany for leading international opposition to a war against Iraq. The US will withdraw all its troops and bases from there and end military and industrial co- operation between the two countries - moves that could cost the Germans billions of euros.

The plan - discussed by Pentagon officials and military chiefs last week on the orders of Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld - is designed 'to harm' the German economy to make an example of the country for what US hawks see as Chancellor Gerhard Schröder's 'treachery'.

The hawks believe that making an example of Germany will force other countries heavily dependent on US trade to think twice about standing up to America in future.

...more...

ah but, let us not return to "old bickering"

hahahahahahaha

ROFLMAO!!!
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 04:11 PM
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16. WHAP! 'Hey, you hit me!' "That's the past. Get over it."
WHAP! 'Hey, you hit me!' "That's the past. Get over it."

WHAP! 'Hey, you hit me!' "That's the past. Get over it."

WHAP! 'Hey, you hit me!' "That's the past. Get over it."

Dubya will play the game as long as others will let him.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 04:16 PM
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18. Lol!
Yep, that pretty much sums up standard operating procedure at Bushco!
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Panda1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 05:18 PM
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27. Hahaha
That was great....exactly the BFEE method of diplomacy.
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 12:37 AM
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38. Hahahahaha
That's great! Thanks for the chuckle....what a wonderful sunday morning newspaper cartoon that would make.

RC
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 04:15 PM
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17. What a complete and utter idiot!
Edited on Wed Sep-10-03 04:17 PM by laylah
But then I state the obvious. I lived with an abuser for 12 years...they "beat" you up, apologize, urge you to forgive them, promising the behavior will never happen again, only to repeat the behavior when their target displeases them. Sounds like Shrub has the part down well! Whistle Ass is SUCH a freaking idiot. "What's mine is mine, what's yours is mine, and no, I won't share"....GAWD, I have never detested another human being in my entire life (I am a die-hard believer in karma); however, this low-life piece of feces I hate with every fiber of my being! :mad:

Edited cuz I can't spell :silly:
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priller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 09:35 PM
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33. I'm with you on that one
I've been proud of the fact that I've never really hated anyone before. Plenty that I didn't like; bosses, bullies, the usual bad actors. But hate? No. Things have changed now, though. I have dreams of meeting up with Bush (or Rummy or Wolfie or Cheney or Asscrack) and just laying into them with a ceaseless barrage of the most vile obscenities.

It's amazing to me, though, how other reasonably intelligent people can think he's the greatest, even "chosen by God" and all that crap. Fascinating to see such total, absolute blindness.
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NickDanger Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 04:17 PM
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19. He really loves you cheese eating surrender monkeys--really
eom
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BonjourUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 04:53 PM
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22. Who ?
:hippie:
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 04:20 PM
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21. This really is pretty frickin ridiculous.
What a joke our foreign policy has become.

"Bush urges 'freedom toast' eating French and jack-booted Germans to stop bickering". Didn't a US diplomat call them a bunch of chocolate makers just last week?

We blew off Kyoto, tore up the ABM treaty, withdrew from the ICC, and then demanded everyone vote with us on Iraq based on made up evidence, and now, Bush is whining about the bickering? You tell'em Lone Ranger.
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 04:54 PM
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23. Just last week, a guy at the SD called them 'Chocolate Makers.'
At the friggin' State Department!!! I might expect that from the Pentagon, but from State?

I guess that's the extent of our diplomacy. Gee, I wonder why the French and Germans aren't on board.
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 04:58 PM
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25. It's the 'insult 'em till they give in'
strategy of diplomacy. Bushco have the insulting part down, it is getting the other side to cooperate they are having trouble with.
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E_Zapata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 04:56 PM
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24. lessee......Coalition = 30 countries
Edited on Wed Sep-10-03 05:06 PM by E_Zapata
All 30 could send 5000 troops ......that's 150,000 troops.

He shouldn't have to go to the UN. Unless there isn't really a coaliton. Nah - that couldn't be. Nah.

My worry is that Bush will find something so appealing and impossible to turn down to bribe the french and germans with that they will concede to our resolution of Total Control.

I would have never dreamed the Killer Ds from Texas would have folded. And on that matter - now they have all killed their political careers. The Tex Dems have wasted almost $4 mill fighting two redistricting special sessions, which was for naught since they gave in. Has anyone noted that when the turncoat dem returned to Houston that a different dem could have left the state? No one is on the butt of the remaining tex dems who could have maintained the block. sorry - off topic.
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pink_poodle Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 05:41 PM
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28. These people just have no shame whatsoever................
no class, no pride, no compassion and so on and so forth ad nauseum..........
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 06:07 PM
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29. God, I love it when Bush* has to BEG!
It's so demeaning and I flat love it! Anything that demeans Bush* is alright with me.
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 08:11 PM
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30. Gotta hand it to *
Beneath that lunacy, plasticity, hypocrisy and gall is an intense genius for lunacy, platicity, hypocrisy and gall.
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Warren Stuart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 08:35 PM
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32. Hey Weasels, I mean allies - Get over it!
We was just kidding you about being able to go it alone if need be. And that newspaper picture, ya gotta admit that was a scream right?

C'mon can't take a joke?

http://www.preventtruthdecay.com/mainmiscweasels.htm

Can't we all just change the tone?
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hussar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 09:44 PM
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34. Hey Bushy Boy
You can't afford to dictate to the rest of the World what you want coz you got the biggest defecit known to man.

How about you kiss my arse ?
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 09:54 PM
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35. Remember when the GOP/media insisted the U.N. was "irrelevant"?
And now Mr. Bush asks for help from an "irrelevant" organization?

Bush is purposly decietful, very stupid, or both- "you decide!"
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 09:57 PM
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36. Isn't that like Ted Bundytelling people to forget
the couple of bad dates he had?
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 12:32 AM
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37. Golly what happened to that huge coalition of the willing?
I thought 2/3ds of the world was behind us on this little venture....was that a lie too, AWOL?

RC
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Pert_UK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 12:42 AM
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39. "Forget that I said you're all weak idiots and HELP ME OUT!"
That's what he's saying, n'est ce pas?

Not even apologising, just ordering us to forget his abuse.

Nice.

P.
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