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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:52 AM
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No troops to Iraq even if UN asks: India
http://web.mid-day.com/news/nation/2003/september/63659.htm

New Delhi: After playing hide and seek with the United States for more than four months, India has finally decided not to send troops to Iraq, even if the United Nations gives an explicit mandate to send troops under its command.

So far, the Prime Minister's Office (PMO) has maintained that it was willing to send troops to Iraq under the UN banner. Realising the Indian position, the US moved the UN for a draft resolution, which it was willing to alter.

However, the government got feedback from across the country that sending troops to Iraq would cause widespread resentment among the people.

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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:54 AM
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1. Okay, folks, I smell a draft!
There's no way Junior can sustain this charade without one!

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paulsbc Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:57 AM
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3. sure there is
just start withdrawing troops, or rotating troops, from other areas, such as Iceland, Germany, etc. Rumsfeld talked about this recently as one way to solve the problem of troop rotations.

but I see this administration not taking the smart approach, since they have yet to demonstrate anything of the sort yet, and just push tours to a year or more, and keep reservists called up well beyond where they should...
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 03:57 AM
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9. privatization is another way around the draft
and Congressional authorization. All troops are learning to be infantry men. So if you signed up to be an electronics technicican, you may find yourself on the front lines while a contractor is doing your job.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:56 AM
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2. Related news from France:
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Doug Decker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 01:02 AM
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4. Why can't we do that? n/t
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 01:11 AM
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5. wow
World to BFEE: GO FUCK YOURSELF!

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tinnypriv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 01:35 AM
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6. Democracy is a bitch, Wolfo!
:D
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femmecahors Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 02:04 AM
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7. BOYCOTT INDIA!!!!
Will any of the Freepers bother to note that India just sent the US back to face the UN . . . knowing all along that they weren't going to send troops.

Oh the humiliation!
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colorado_ufo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 01:56 AM
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18. Yes! A boycott!
Let's all refuse to buy brass incense burners and madras shirts!
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 10:45 AM
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23. Boycott.....wonderful idea!!!
If only the US would boycott every country that has refused to help us in Iraq, then we would be in a position to slove our unemployment problem. We would have to buy US made goods since there are only a handful of countries that actually support us.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 11:01 AM
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26. I know! Let's start sending them jobs!
With cheap, educated labor, India can tell Dubya to eat shit and die and his corporate handlers would tell him to send a thank you note telling India he enjoyed the shit.



Feel safe.
Ashcroft watches over us all.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 03:53 AM
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8. there was no way this was going to happen
India is the worlds 2nd largest muslim state... there would be riots
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 01:30 AM
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16. India is a majority Hindu nation
n/t
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E_Zapata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 06:05 AM
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10. Those national election in India - they must consider the will of voters:
From the yahoo story in the other thread:

Indian media reported Friday that India will not send troops to Iraq even if the United Nations agrees to mandate multinational peacekeeping operations in the war-torn country.

Quoting top government sources, newspapers said New Delhi is now claiming it cannot spare any of its million-strong army for peacekeeping operations due to security threats within the country and on its borders.

However, the reports said the real reason was that national elections are due in India by October 2004 and the ruling Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party believes it would be politically disastrous if any Indian soldier died in Iraq.


-----------thoe darn election woes. Bush wouldn't know anything about making decisions exclusively to influence the outcome of elections. No, he sure wouldn't.

Besides, Indians will be very busy processing all those US tax returns. With the tax cuts, there will be a learning curve to be met next year. Indians can't afford to spare one worker for cannon fodder with all those new jobs coming in. Their labor force is just too well educated and highly skilled in the technical fields to spare. Face it, we will have round up a bunch of unskilled Americans who don't have jobs anyways. Just the way of the world. uh hum.
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E_Zapata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 06:29 AM
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11. We need to have one thread for all the no shows: now Japan NOPE!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=116&topic_id=1319

I thought they had approved sending troops last month -- for the 1st time since WW2.

Now they won't even come up with money.

Bush has suddenly become persona non grata.

Any guesses on who is calling the shots? Russia? China? Or both?
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 10:55 AM
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24. PM Koizumi up for LDP (his party) election
Head of the party becomes PM as LDP has majority in the Diet. Not likely to take a risk like trying to push through an overseas deployment in a combat zone.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 07:15 AM
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12. Take that georgie*
If India isn't sending troop then Pakistan sure as hell isn't sending any. How long before the danes, poles, and spaniards figure out it's a zero sum game?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 07:28 AM
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13. When they figure out the checks we wrote them are made out of rubber n/t
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 01:05 AM
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14. OK. Bush reviews his options.
1) No India. I was really counting on them. (they're such nice people).

2) All the other countries are "wimping out" on me. Let's see...France no, Germany no, Japan definitely no, Canada, a few + a few bucks. Maybe we can scrounge up about 30,000 more troops worldwide....hope they take along their Berlitz dictionary so they understand us. Besides, it costs us so damn much $$money$$ to pay these soldiers. (they're not doing this out of the goodness of their heart, obviously).

3) The draft....hm

4) more sign-ups! snaps fingers....oh wait, very few sign-ups because of the bad publicity.

5) maybe it's time to forge ahead and take care of Iran. Except I've burned through a few $$billions$$ and don't have any troops to spare.

SHIT what next
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 01:26 AM
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15. You know --
I don't think he and his administration even have enough self-awarenss for a self-dialog like that. I really don't.

Bush has NO capacity to contemplate what other people think or do or consider what self-interests they might have.

All of this is perfectly delicious ... until I remember that our troops and Iraqis are suffering and we're going broke FAST mired in Iraq. In some ways this thing is WORSE than I expected.

Hmph. And there are people here at DU who expect us to forget about certain Senate and House votes last October, when our national wealth is being depleted by an immoral, illegal, unjustified and unjustifiable war with no end in sight, and our sons and daughters are dying daily and getting physically and psychologically maimed, and we've wreaked chaos and destruction on a sovereign nation and raped and pillaged (or allowed it), and poisoned it some more for 4 billion years.

Yeah, right.

Eloriel
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 01:32 AM
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17. This is the bottom that Nader talked about
and it's not much fun.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 01:57 AM
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19. I've said it before and I'll say it again
Why would any of the western democracies send troops to die in Bush's war when they would get defeated in the next election. The rest of the world sees the quagmire Iraq is and sorry guys,but the USA is alone on this one. Thanks whistleass.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 10:16 AM
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20. I wonder if Bush will get even and help stop the flow of hi-tech
jobs to India! And he's mad at China. Gee, maybe there is hope for all the unemployed computer programmers after all.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 10:32 AM
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21. And who really thinks Pakistan is going to send troops?
They keep talking about India and Pakistan and I thought that India, while not likely, would be the more likely of the two.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 10:44 AM
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22. The contingent of countries giving Bush a collective finger
seems to be growing larger with every effort Bush makes to beg for help.

What the frick did he expect?


Feel safe.
Ashcroft watches over us all.
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StandWatie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 10:58 AM
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25. it was an insane idea anyway
Edited on Sat Sep-13-03 10:58 AM by StandWatie
Whoever the hell thought sending Indian Troops to police Muslims was a great idea had a sick sense of humor.
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