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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 07:59 AM
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US not expecting German troops in Iraq force
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20030912/wl_mideast_afp/iraq_us_germany_powell&cid=1514&ncid=1473

BERLIN (AFP) - The United States is not expecting German troops to take part in any future multinational force in Iraq and is satisfied that Berlin is playing its role, US Secretary of State Colin Powell said.

"I'm not expecting any German troops," Powell told ARD public television. "Germany is playing its role. We fully understand the German government's position," he said.

With US troops under steady attack in Iraq, Washington has proposed that the UN Security Council create a multinational security force to counter the instability, and to legitimise the US-installed Iraqi Governing Council.

Berlin opposed the US-led war on Iraq, which was waged without UN approval, and has been lobbying ever since for the United Nations to return to the fore and be given a central role in rebuilding.

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 08:03 AM
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1. Sorry seems to be the hardest word
Alone again naturally
One is the loneliest number that you'll ever do

Germany already has the most troops deployed as peacekeepers. They are running Kabul.
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papou Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 08:11 AM
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2. Paris also rejects current US in Charge of everything resolution
http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,1040801,00.html

Paris dispatch

Plus ça change ...

France has not exactly jumped at the latest US proposals for troop deployments in Iraq. Jon Henley experiences a sense of déjà vu

Friday September 12, 2003

"France and Germany, the leading opponents of a US-led intervention in Iraq, have rejected an American-drafted security council resolution aimed at ... " Sounds horribly familiar, doesn't it? As I recall, the same kind of opening paragraph appeared on the top of a great many news stories earlier this year, in the run-up to the American and British invasion of Iraq. And, looking pretty much identical, here it is again, this time in relation to Washington's unexpected call last week for more countries to contribute troops and money to its embattled post-war occupation.

Two days ago, Paris and Berlin (just as they did before) submitted amendments to the US draft, essentially offering Washington a deal: we will approve American military leadership of a multinational force in Iraq, but only if US political control is downgraded in favour of the Iraqis themselves and the United Nations. Predictably, the US secretary of state, Colin Powell, stamped on that one robustly, publicly ridiculing the idea that America might give up power quickly and - in another depressing echo of those bruising pre-war clashes - rather misrepresenting the Franco-German position.
"Suggestions that ... all we have to do is get up tomorrow morning and find an Iraqi who is passing by and give him the government and say, 'You're now in charge and Ambassador Bremer and the American army are leaving', that's not an acceptable solution," he said. Nor, of course, is it exactly what France and Germany are proposing.
So are we heading inexorably towards another transatlantic power struggle, a wearying repeat of the daggers-drawn, over-my-dead-body non-diplomacy that saw the death of dialogue and the birth of "old Europe", "cheese-eating surrender monkeys" and "freedom fries"?

I can't speak for the likely US response, but from France's standpoint at least it seems unlikely. First, despite what must be at times an almost overwhelming temptation to say "I told you so," there has been little if any sign of official Gallic gloating at America's current predicament in Iraq. French officials, from President Jacques Chirac down, warned repeatedly before the war that America was biting off more than it alone could chew. A all-but-unilateral invasion would only encourage further terrorist attacks, create a vast range of new and unpredictable political, economic and security-related problems in Iraq, and risked destabilising the entire region, they said. Most of this has proved true. But perhaps surprisingly, no one in Paris is reminding Washington of that now. <snip>
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kintaro Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 08:41 AM
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3. more to know ...
We'll send no troops, but Berlin would help to train the Iraqi police and to rebuild the water and electricity supply.

THW (Technisches Hilfswerk) our civilian technical help organisation is currently helping in Iraq with some few men and is preparing to send more THW-"troops" if Berlin gives the official admission (after a new UN resolution).



Greetings from Europe, Frankfurt


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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 09:16 AM
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5. Heißen Sie willkommen zu DU
Ich habe in Schweinfurt in den USA Armee für drei Jahre gelebt

Don't think I can actually remember that much.

http://www.freetranslation.com/
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kintaro Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 09:48 AM
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6. :)
thanks for your welcome
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 05:06 PM
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7. Hi kintaro!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 08:44 AM
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4. India said no, as well
Edited on Fri Sep-12-03 08:45 AM by SoCalDem
Thank goodness we still have Dahomey,Cameroon,Gabon,Eritrea, and those hundred or so Lithuanian soldiers ...
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 07:37 PM
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8. "Whatever it is, I expected it!"
The problem? PIck one!
Budget surplus
Budget shortfall
Budget surplus
Budget shortfall
Guerrilla war in Iraq
Resurgent al Qaeda in Afghanistan
Dropping poll numbers
Soaring poll numbers
UN Recalcitrance
World hates us
World loves us
WMD
No WMD
Strong Dem opposition
No Dem opposition
Terrorist attack
No terrorist attack
Good economic news
Bad economic news
Natural disaster
Nuclear war
Alien invaders
Bin Laden on the loose
Bin Laden captured
Saddam on the loose
Saddam captured
Israel
Syria
Jordan
China
Russia


And the answer is (choose one--or as many as you like):

Attack Iraq
Just say "Nine eleven!"
Drill in ANWAR!
Blame Clinton!
Tax cuts!
Cancel civil rights!

It's easy! It's fun! Let's all play!
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 12:22 AM
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9. They must not want UN help
They can't really be in need of help. If they really wanted it, they would change their attitude and be reasonable.

As amazing as it may seem, this administration actually has SOME flexibility. I thought it would never happen. Amazingly, the US moved out of Fallujah when the situation got out of control. Also, the army came out publicly with an apology when they aggravated the Shia clerics in Baghdad.

So they're obviously capable of it WHEN the need arises. Obviously, that's not the case with the UN. They don't want em. They don't need em. They're still playing Texas gunslinger.
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