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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 04:09 AM
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US deserters flee to Canada to avoid service in Iraq
By Charles Laurence in New York
(Filed: 09/01/2005)

American Army soldiers are deserting and fleeing to Canada rather than fight in Iraq, rekindling memories of the thousands of draft-dodgers who flooded north to avoid service in Vietnam.

An estimated 5,500 men and women have deserted since the invasion of Iraq, reflecting Washington's growing problems with troop morale.

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The Pentagon says that the level of desertion is no higher than usual and denies that it is having difficulty persuading troops to fight. The flight to Canada is, however, an embarrassment for the military, which is suffering from a recruiting shortfall for the National Guard and the Army Reserves.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/01/09/wus09.xml&sSheet=/portal/2005/01/09/ixportal.html
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toymachines Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 04:18 AM
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1. so they are saying 5500 people deserting is normal?
is that right. it sure doesnt seem like 5500 army personell would flee to canada in a normal two years. dam hypocrisy, thine name is government.
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chelaque liberal Donating Member (981 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:43 AM
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16. When is the last time the government issued a statement that
didn't smack of out right deceit? It gets so damn insulting!
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 04:19 AM
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2. "the level of desertion is no higher than usual"
Yeah right !
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 05:19 AM
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6. Say it twenty or thirty times
and apparently it will be true.
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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 05:46 AM
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8. The level of desertion is... Aww, fukkit.
I'm sure the RW talking heads will finish the job for me. :eyes:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 04:54 AM
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3. Will Canada let them stay?
I hope so.
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evolvenow Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 05:09 AM
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4. I thought that Canada issued a statement that would accept people avoiding
joining the %^&*#$%^!! illegal war.

Those are my words. Canada is the best. Humane, smart and Emotionally intelligent.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 05:10 AM
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5. The way out is----
Not to join this Cluster Fuck in the First Place. Anyone who joins the military now is either crazy, or has a DEATH WISH like Pat Tilman
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:28 AM
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9. you've got THAT right.
i'd say if you just HAVE to do some kind of military service, I'd opt for the Coast Guard or the Navy. Even then, with the leadeship we have I am not sure if even THAT would keep you out

There is NO WAY I'd even consider ground forces. It would be a good way to get greased or disabled for life.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:55 AM
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11. The stories that ESPN and FAUX told abut Pat Tilman were
indeed rich!
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:06 AM
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13. Many of them Joined Before the 2000 Coup
Edited on Fri Jan-14-05 09:06 AM by AndyTiedye
and before the Crusade. They never imagined what our country would become
in a few short years.

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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:33 AM
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15. My thoughts exactly! n/t
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theresistance Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 05:26 AM
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7. As soon as some right-wing war loving loon
rants about these deserters - get them to sign up and go to Iraq to fight the war they support.

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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:40 AM
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10. Bless these true patriots & Canada.
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wildwww2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:06 AM
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12. As a former Marine. I say more power to them. They are the real heroes.
Refusing to be cannon fodder. In a war of aggression that goes totally against our constitution. Is a brave thing. And a good example for "We the people" That we should stand up against this war criminal Bu$h and his band of lunatics. It is our country to protect. Not his to destroy. And Bu$h is destroying our country. Mark my words.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President
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DFWJock Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:13 AM
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14. This just in...
BushCoInc: Canada has "tons" of WMD's - let the bombing begin!
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