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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 12:50 PM Original message |
Venezuela Archbishop Concerned Over Chavez |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. Scratch the surface of accusations of a cocentration of too much power... |
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Bono71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 12:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Does Chavez have term limits? If he does, I thik all this |
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radric (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Not sure about the term limits... |
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Bono71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I have my doubts about him as well... |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 05:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
48. He will give up power when he loses an election... |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Couple of Venezuelan priests were at my church this summer |
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Bono71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Sounds like what happened where my people are from... |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. These guys used to travel to and from extensively.... |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-15-05 01:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
59. Where your people are from, the Catholic church pulled out.. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Sounds like the same group that feared the Sandinistas, but |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:27 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. I thought of Nicaragua too |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Presidential term in Venezuela is 5 years... no 2nd term. |
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radric (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:07 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Well, I guess that gives you some idea.. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Yes, popular re-election and serving a 2nd term.... |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:15 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. LOL! |
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radric (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. LOL I'm sure he won't be bothering with.. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:29 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. I'm not LOL. |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 02:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
38. Cronies? you mean |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-15-05 02:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
64. then he's only learning from the best "*" |
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Bono71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Like I said...we'll have to see how it plays out... |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Yes, the same goes for the Bushies, Putin, the Saudis, and on and on... |
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Bono71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:37 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I will bet you a $1,000,000 that Bush is gone in 4 years. That is one law |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:44 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. I didn't say Bush. I said the Bushies. This isn't a one man deal here. |
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Bono71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:46 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Whatever...I am talking about the man...he will step down when |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 05:06 PM Response to Reply #30 |
47. Isn't that convenient. |
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Bono71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 05:48 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. If the thread was about Bush or Putin and people where |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 06:52 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. LOL! |
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Bono71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-15-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Admitting what? That I dislike Bush and Castro and that |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. You can SAY anything you want to |
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Bono71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Oh get over yourself..."irresponsible in the extreme" lol... the initial |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 02:18 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. I know what you said |
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Bono71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 02:29 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Hey illiterate one...where in this thread have I called |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 02:46 PM Response to Reply #26 |
41. Why do you say these baseless things?? He was elected |
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Bono71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 02:52 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. I believe Human Rights Watch. n/t |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 05:04 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Where was HRW in the years before he was elected? |
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Bono71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 05:49 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Talk about convenient... |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 06:53 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. Nope. |
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Bono71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-15-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. Write something intelligent and you'll get a response. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-15-05 02:43 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. LOL! |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-15-05 02:52 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. L(ots)O(f)L(abels) = L(ack)O(f)A(rgument)! |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-15-05 02:34 PM Response to Reply #52 |
66. I'd applaud HRW if they'd condemn someone on the right in VZ... |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 09:10 PM Response to Reply #46 |
58. I never heard what they had to say about former Pres. Carlos Andres Perez |
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Bono71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-15-05 01:57 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. It is illegitimate to defend something or someone by pointing |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-15-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. No need to defend Hugo Chavez, Boner71. n/t |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 02:31 PM Response to Reply #20 |
40. Pray God he does a tenth |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 05:11 PM Response to Reply #9 |
49. Oh, yes, the evils of being re-elected! |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. He can stay in until 2012, if re-elected in 2007, I believe. |
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Bono71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
31. Thanks. n/t |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 03:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
44. A good summary, |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
2. Looks like the moral values meme has flown south, and why not? |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
12. US investigates risk of losing oil supplies from Venezuela |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
14. The church should not side with the oligarchs. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Exactly. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:19 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Unfortunately, The Catholic Church hierarchy... |
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WMliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
21. the archbishop mentioned is another member of the hierarchy appointed |
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bin.dare (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:29 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Porras has a negative history with Chavez since 1999... |
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WMliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. and if Porras wasn't archbishop, it'd be a right wing parrot. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Oops. What happened to that statement about the church not |
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anarchy1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
32. go here to these sites first for real journalism out of Venezuela. |
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gorbal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-15-05 02:54 PM Response to Reply #32 |
70. I like "Truthout's" articles on Chavez |
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anarchy1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-16-05 07:06 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. go to al giordano and bigleftoutside. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
35. On the other hand, Chavez should prepare for untimely demise |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
36. HE's a pip, isn't he? A real Venezuelan Jerry Falwell. |
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bin.dare (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 02:56 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. certainly is if the following is to be believed. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 03:13 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Isn't that amazing! So glad to see this info. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 05:57 PM Response to Reply #43 |
53. So the guy the AP is quoting has been REJECTED by the Catholic hirearcy |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
50. I wish the Catholics in America were worried about Republicans... |
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Bono71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 06:03 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Not this Catholic. Many of us are agianst the Repubs. I think the |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-05 06:51 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. The hierarchy appears to be, that's for sure. |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-15-05 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
65. Priest's death highlights divisions in Venezuelan church |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-15-05 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
68. Could it be the increase in women's rights that bothers the "Bishop"? |
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