Dems Tell Bush To Lay Off Gays

http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/01/011405bushDNC.htm

The Democratic Party launched a petition Friday telling the White House not to push for a Constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.

The DNC in its Pride at the Polls newsletter to more than 100,000 party supporters calls on President Bush to abandon his call for the amendment and to tell House Majority Leader Tom Delay to " stop discriminating against Americans."

DeLay (R-Texas) has made it clear that it's at the top of the Republican legislative agenda, warning, "We will come back and come back until this is passed." (story)


oh my gods--someone has developed a backbone at the DNC

here's the link to the petition

http://www.democrats.org/glbt/action/200501130001.html?psc=web

Dems speak out!

:eyes: I'm guilty of pessimism about Dems

It's easy to TELL the bully to stop hitting you. It's much harder to punch that fascist fuck right in the face when he doesn't.

so true..so true...

It gets tiresome when they always wear the white party gloves when the boxing gloves would be so much better.

> It's easy to TELL the bully to stop hitting you. It's much harder to
> punch that fascist fuck right in the face when he doesn't.

The Dems' ability to "hit back" at this point consists of...

And if the Republicans attempt to re-write the rules, take EVERY measure (lawful or not) to stop them. If those rules fall, the Democrats should refuse to show up, or better yet show up and physically take action.

The pure realization of fascism is precariuosly close. I now require the few remaining representatives I have to act as though they see the danger too. State sponsored propaganda everywhere, government agencies being cleansed of dissent, rampant nationalism and social conservatism, and perpetual warfare. These are becoming desperate times...

I don't think the majority of the Democratic party "gets" how close we are to boiling over into a fascist superpower.

The bully is going to be hitting harder, and soon.

It's about time!

Now, we just have to get them to stop suppressing the black vote, and maybe we'll have a REAL Democracy!

It should be soon!


Ooops. That was in the wrong thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1151147#1151619

It doesn't tell us how loud the laughter was in response.

"Um...president bush...could you please not ban gays from marrying each other?" "....PWAHAHAHAHAHA! Get out." "Yes sir."

and for the people saying "finally," where have you been? The DNC has been against the gay marriage amendment from the beginning of the dem presidential primaries.

when there's not enough work for everyone.

Why? Because this action should have been taken BEFORE the election. It's been a year since Bush* launched his Gay Bashing Ammendment. By waiting until now, when the Repubs no longer need the Ammendment charge to steel their base, the Dems tacitly endorse this tactic.

It's a crying shame.

I never understood... Why, GOP is going after Gay and not Bi?? Bi's have sex with men too! So, GOP is saying, Bi is acceptable? What a bunch of F@#kin Hypocrites!!!

...they probably subscribe to the ridiculous notion that bisexuals (like myself) don't actually exist, and are just "eager for attention" or "trying to stand out" and "have our cake and eat it too".

Sadly, I've even heard that tripe from some DEMS - and gay men! - I know...

I always supported any sexual oriented, color, disability and nationality. GOP really discuss me.

the DNC did take a clear position against this amendment.

Does anyone at this NEWS SITE read the news?

DEMS did speak out on this issue before the election!!!

Unfortunately, as usual, they are very short on action. They could have mustered up about 2 or 3 moderate repugs and passed some of many, many pieces of LGBT legislation when they had 49-51 in the senate. Even if they lost it would have been admirable and showed they had some spine. If they EVER did things like that they wouldn't be in the minority because more people would vote for them.

But they don't have any spine. And they got con lite (aka DLC) running things anyway. Sucks, but there you have it.

The point is that they allowed Bush* to use this issue in spite of the fact that it is extremely unpopular. Did they hold his feet to the fire? I don't believe so. The Dems have (mostly) been enablers for Bush*, not opponents. This is my opinion.

PS - Why do you find the need to insult me and my education level so quickly? Did you consider that maybe I know more about this issue than you do? I suggest a more reasoned approach to dialogue than insults. I'm happy to be proven wrong and admit my mistakes when they occur. However, my statement was that my diminished faith in the Dems is furthered by their soft responses to hard issues. Noone has shown me otherwise, though I'd be happy to entertain any proof you have to offer that the Dems have faught hard for my rights as a gay american to be treated equally. The progress we've made has come from grassroots efforts and a changed environment in the national media (i.e. Ellen, Will & Grace, Queer Eye, etc.) mostly.

I guess it's good news since I was beginning to assume the dnc was going to turn against gays altogether, adopt a republican agenda, and make me go green even though they don't have a chance in hades of winning.

Thanks dnc you slow-to-act-hide-your-head-in-the-sand-republican-bootlicking-jerks. Give me hope in you and string me along a little further.

and links. Sounds good to me so I passed it along.
After reading the thread ..... yes the DNC should have done way, way more during the election and every frickin' day.
It sure can't hurt to encourage the DNC to do something now, though. :shrug:

I think it should be kicked.:kick:

Dee-lay or is thee Lay needs to get bitch slapped and sodomized by lots of gay men. But he's such an evil, ugly f*#k I wouldn't even have oral sex with him for that matter. A bitch slap will have to do.

But i'm very pessimestic about the repuglicans complying.

For now.. When it's time for the '06 elections, they'll dust it off, and start whipping up the frenzy again..

Their trusty old issues get trotted out every election, and their faithful fall for it over and over and over.

They never want to "solve" their GAGG issues, because it's their "bloody shirt" that must be waved every election to fire up the "base"..(and they are the "basest" people on earth)

gays
abortion
guns
god

The issues for democrats are too cerebral, and there's no bloody shirt to wave

healthcare
retirement benefits
good jobs
decent schools
clean water & air
affordable and clean energy

These are not "bloody-shirt" issues, and require more than a 30 second soundbyte screamed out as they "cut to commercial"

They owe the Dominion big time for "delivering" the electoral votes
with their voting machinez.

They will be more than happy to deliver gays to the lions in exchange.

time, they cannot "resolve" it....ever ..

There is nothing "in it" for them now that they actually HAVE the votes.. A few months before the next election they will promise to "fix it" again....and so on and so on..

In fact there will probably be a new flurry of ballot initiatives to make sure the faithful turn out again.

If they ban gay marriage this year,
they'll be campaigning for sodomy laws in the next election.

If they overturn Roe v. Wade this year,
they'll be going for a national ban next time,
or they'll go after birth control.

They own the voting machinez. There are no limits.

Where was the DNC when 11 states voted to approved anti-gay marriage laws in November? Where were they when my state (Missouri) passed a similar measure in August?

For the first time in years I voted a split ticket in November because I was so disgusted at the way some Missouri Democrats ran from the gay marriage issue in August, then came slinking back asking for our votes in November and saying what a shame it was that the marriage law was passed.

Frankly, it appears that the DNC is now trying the same thing. I hope they come around asking for money because I'll love the chance to tell them they can count on donations from me when I can count on action from them ... and not just a little sympathy after the fact.

And I right with you on this:

"I hope they come around asking for money because I'll love the chance to tell them they can count on donations from me when I can count on action from them."

Ditto x 2 in this household!

couldn't have said it better myself.

The Dems need to hire lawyer Randy New of Atlanta, a gay rights activist (and my brother's partner), to kick some ass for them. They won't kick said ass. Randy will. He is the guy suing the Druid Hills Country Club. I love Randy like a brother. In fact, my parents now love him. Since the "outing" with this Druid Hills Country Club thing, my parents have rallied around my brother and his great partner. Randy said he knew he was "in the family" when there was an envelope ($$$) for him under the Christmas tree this year, from old "Dr. T." God bless my old, tolerant parents.

I am a liberal through and through, vote democratic though I lean Green, and frankly Dems in office have really upset me by staying quiet on this issue. Something NEEDED to be said, to be done...and it's about time.