Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Pentagon secret unit helped find Saddam (rummy's SS)

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:15 PM
Original message
Pentagon secret unit helped find Saddam (rummy's SS)
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apwashington_story.asp?category=1152&slug=Pentagon%20Spy%20Teams

WASHINGTON -- When U.S. troops pulled Saddam Hussein from a hole in the ground a year ago, the capture was described afterward as the work of a team of conventional and special operations troops.

Nothing was said about an assist from an intelligence unit that the Pentagon created after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks to expand the military's ability to collect human intelligence - information from spies as opposed to listening devices or satellites.

The unit's existence was revealed by The Washington Post on Sunday.

Pentagon officials said Monday that the unit, called the Strategic Support Branch, had a hidden hand in interrogations and other aspects of the clue-sifting work inside Iraq that narrowed the search for Saddam and led eventually to the cramped underground chamber where he was hiding


... The plot thickens. Interrogation?? Abu Ghraib perhaps? We will never know.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:22 PM
Response to Original message
1. Saddam was held by Iraqis. Now that the secret unit has been outed
Edited on Mon Jan-24-05 04:23 PM by hector459
the Pentagon is just trying to justify its existence. The truth be known, Saddam was turned in by folks close to him who collected a windfall of money. Go back to the original tapes of his "capture" and you will see that he had been drugged and held until the US forces came to collect him. This news story is just a cover to try to legimize the existence of these secret organizations that operate outside of government. If Rummy can have a secret organization, then any number of high level intelligence folks can have their own secret organizations. The American people just don't realize how much of hidden secret government is controlling their lives.

Folks, we are dealing with renegade government that even Bush can't control.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:24 PM
Original message
Is this the same unit that didn't exist this morning?
and I thought the Kurds captured Saddam and turned him in for the reward. :shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rockedthevoteinMA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:27 PM
Response to Original message
6. Exactly.
it existed yesterday am, didn't exist this am, and now, it's responsible for finding Saddam? :wtf:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #6
9. I stole that from you off the other thread
hey at least I am honest about it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rockedthevoteinMA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 06:39 PM
Response to Reply #9
14. That's cool...
:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Guns Aximbo Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:24 PM
Response to Original message
2. B.S.
As the story was originally reported. It was like a 3 stooges short - you know the one where the stooges are coming out of the manhole between a gangster's legs or a cops legs.

It was the same thing. A soldier just happened to be standing there when Saddam stuck his head out.





Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:25 PM
Response to Original message
3. LOL Frist doesn't know enough about it to know if there should be hearings
Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., said he did not know enough yet about the matter to judge whether Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld had exceeded his authority. "I'm not sure whether it's going to require hearings or not," he said.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:26 PM
Response to Original message
4. Or is it possible the Rumster is trying to justify their existence
Edited on Mon Jan-24-05 04:55 PM by Judi Lynn
by claiming they found Saddam Hussein? We can be reminded that his office announced a long time ago it could be expected to publish lies to confound and amaze the "enemy." Then they claimed they wouldn't, after all.

I'm starting to think the "enemy" (in their eyes) is actually 'lil ol' us, the U.S. public.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:32 PM
Response to Reply #4
8. Aw, Jeez!
You'd think with all the Milions this guy and his buds are worth, he'd at least get his teeth cleaned! J*&*K-A-S!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #4
10. I thought that too- this diverts attention away from their existence
and the RW'ers will hail them as manly MAN-GODS

All Hail the manly MAN-GODS and those who hail them are manly MAN-GODS as well !!!!

:eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:42 PM
Response to Reply #4
12. That is exactly what I was thinking Judi Lynn!
They are scrambling fast to find a way to justify rummy's secret death squad.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:27 PM
Response to Original message
5. Special Rummy torture unit?
"the unit, called the Strategic Support Branch, had a hidden hand in interrogations..."

Herr Rumsfurher's private SS? or Gestapo?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:31 PM
Response to Original message
7. And they couldn't find B-Ladin because...
??? Of course, the bounty waa higher, and Saddam was at a all new low (intrenched, that is).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:37 PM
Response to Original message
11. Really? Last year they credited Iraqi forces. Has someone been
making up stuff?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 06:25 PM
Response to Original message
13. In OPERATION since Oct. 2001!! yahoo link...
Was this in the original WP story? If it was I missed it...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=542&ncid=716&e=6&u=/ap/20050124/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/pentagon_spy_teams

Pentagon Tries to Explain Secret Group


~snip~

Another official, who discussed the matter on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to reveal details, said the unit's origins can be traced to the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan in October 2001, when commanders of special operations forces found they lacked the interrogation experts they needed.


This official, who has direct knowledge about the unit, said it is not a standing force but rather a "task-organized" group that is put together to meet a battlefield commander's special needs.


William Arkin, a former Army intelligence officer and author of a new book, "Code Names: Deciphering U.S. Military Plans, Programs and Operations in the 9-11 World," said in a telephone interview Monday that the DIA unit may be a permutation of a secret intelligence unit known informally as Gray Fox, which reportedly has played a role in the hunt for Osama bin Laden (news - web sites).

Arkin said he was concerned that the Pentagon's expanding use of such secret intelligence units is blurring the lines between combatants and noncombatants, since some in these units don't operate in military uniforms but appear on the battlefield.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 30th 2024, 07:43 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC