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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:16 PM
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NYT: Bush Finds a Backer in Moynihan, Who's Not Talking
WASHINGTON, Jan. 25 - As he pushes ahead with his proposal to remake Social Security by adding private investment accounts, President Bush has so far failed to attract any prominent Democratic supporters.

At least, no prominent Democrats who are still alive.

Instead, Mr. Bush is taking cover under the reputation of Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, the New York Democrat who died nearly two years ago. Mr. Moynihan served as co-chairman of the commission Mr. Bush established in 2001 to recommend ways of establishing personal accounts, a fact the president and his aides mention almost every time they discuss the issue publicly.

"Much of my thinking has been colored by the work of the late Senator Moynihan and other members of the commission, who took a lot of time to take a look at this problem and who came up with some creative suggestions," Mr. Bush said to reporters last month in the Oval Office.

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But in implying that Mr. Moynihan was a supporter of his approach to Social Security, Mr. Bush and his team are open to challenge, based on Mr. Moynihan's record and documented indications that he was not totally happy with the commission's work. Moreover, their use of his name has drawn criticism from the Moynihan family and people who worked with him.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/26/politics/26moynihan.html?oref=login
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:17 PM
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1. Well, that was nauseating.
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aikido15 Donating Member (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 12:22 AM
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11. Very...
:puke:
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:18 PM
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2. Again, they will stop at nothing
Lying means nothing to them. Using and misrepresenting dead people is not a big deal, either, if it helps them become more powerful.

Nazis and fascists, y'all. This is how it all starts.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:18 PM
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3. SWINE! HAS HE NO SHAME!!???????
Edited on Tue Jan-25-05 11:38 PM by Chicago Democrat
DAMN HIM FOR USING THE BEST DAMN DEMOCRAT THAT EVER LIVED TO FURTHER A LIE THAT MOYNIHAN WOULD HAVE FOUGHT TO HIS DYING BREATH!


(ok I'm crying now!, Fuck you Mr Fucking Liar BUSH!)
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:30 PM
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4. Stooping to using a man who's dead and can't defend himself
Just when you think he can go no lower he surprises you with his abilities.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:33 PM
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6. He's been doing that all along if you take his Jesus talks into account.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:36 PM
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7. Good Catch!
I stand corrected. :thumbsup:
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 12:00 AM
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9. Heh-heh! Couldn't help myself...Perhaps the devil made me post it
:evilgrin:
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:31 PM
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5. Moynihan was a Nixonite, and not even King Milhous I would give the time
of day to the Tiny Emperor (even if only because he's raving paranoid)
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:39 PM
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8. It's like saying Jesus tells him what to do. Jesus isn't denying it.
That's why I would love to get the bumper sticker I saw on a car in Newton, MA the other day:

JESUS TO BUSH: STOP USING ME AS A REFERENCE!!!

I'm sure Sen. Moynihan would say something similar -- if less polite -- if he could. There is, of course, no question that he would be outraged, appalled and horrified to have his reputation used this way to attempt to give the gloss of respectability to squalid fascist corruption.

The blivet** has set new lows so many times, I'm no longer sure about what constitutes the newest personal low. I mean, how low can you go? It all gets relativistic at some point, all down the black hole.

I do hope the Moynihan family can do something in the legal arena to stop this. This must be extremely painful for them, not to mention a bald-faced lie.
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necso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 12:16 AM
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10. Any Democrat who crosses the line on privatization,
Edited on Wed Jan-26-05 12:17 AM by necso
must be made to pay the (political) price. This is a battle that we can win -- and that we must win. Desertion, in this case (unlike in others, where we can neither win nor need to win -- or where we will be worse off for winning) is not be tolerated.

Using deceased Democrats to argue for privatization is, of course, despicable. But what can you expect from these guys? They are desperate for crossover Democrats, alive or dead, real or imaginary, to provide cover for Republicans who would otherwise vote against privatization.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 12:30 AM
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12. If you can't find a live one, dig up a dead one.
The dead are less argumentative.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 12:39 AM
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13. Bush's mandate supercedes common decency. Get with the program folks.
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