Palestinians Impute U.S. Veto on Arafat

How can you veto a res aimed at stopping
the killing of a Nobel Prize Winner.

If the UN had a resolution condemning a Palestinian claim to the right to kill Sharon, would the USA veto that? "The reason they hate us is because we don't know why they hate us."

takeover of our foreign policy by PNAC, Likud, and their allies in AIPAC. As both Democrats and Republicans support and take money from AIPAC, both are guilty, wittingly, and unwittingly, of supporting PNAC/Likud, and their goal of a fascist takeover of the Middle East.

The politicians who support this U.N. action (and PNAC/Likud/AIPAC), and the consulting of a foreign power (in this case, Israel) in conducting our foreign policy, are guilty of violating our Constitution, and betraying this nation.

It is for the sake of Israel, and at the urging its fascist-Likud dominated government, that we are in Iraq at all. Yes, oil and power were also motives, but the main impetus, was the redrawing the Middle East's geopolitical map to Israel's liking.

Let's quit fooling ourselves, and really take a look at who, and what, is involving this nation in illegal and shameful wars, and then work to eliminate them from power, because as long as they are allowed to shape our destiny, we no longer control it, to the detriment of this nation, ......and the world.

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a meaning quite different from the one you appear to be giving it.

The idea of not consulting foreign powers in conducting our foreign policy is a Bush/GOP/corporate neo-con fascist idea - are you sure you want to post to an American democratic Constitution upholding family values site?

Are you pro-Likud?

I am pro-peace

I am pro a Jewish State of Israel

I am pro a Palestinian State

:-)

My long time support for Israel has vanished, as the majority of people in Israel (voters) have thoroughly embraced Sharon, and his fascist Likud party. Until the people of Israel decide to replace the Likud regime, and, stop interfering in U.S. government policies and politics, they will not have my support.

Like in most parliamentary systems--the ruling party has to form alliances with other parties to have a majority.

and would suggest you look in the mirror. PNAC and AIPAC, support the same goals when it comes to Israel. A cursory look at both their published manifestos and statements confirm this, even to the most biased reader. And as a fighter against fascism for almost 37 of my 52 years, I understand the word well, ......and apparently better than you.

52 years :-) I believe I - like most kids that went through WW2 - know what fascism is - and is not.

And while I agree much in PNAC and AIPAC reflect the same goal - a Jewish State of Israel - which is indeed my "goal" in the sense I realize there will be no peace until the PA gives up on destroying Israel via the "right of return" and accepts a Jewish State of Israel - the position as to methods to achieve peace and amount of support for the settlers is quite different in the two groups.

Currently there is a feeling in Israel that there is no one to bargain with for peace. When Hitler was bombing London, the Brits were not trying to discuss peace, since that did not seem to be on Hitler's agenda. Israel, after the Arafat rejection of Clinton's Taba (something Arafat now says was a mistake!), sees no point to further discussions.

Therefore, it supports the Likud. So does PNAC. Extrapolating this, anyone who supports AIPAC, or is allied with them, is therefore helping to support Likud, and indirectly, PNAC's plans for the ME.

Directly, or indirectly, the support is there, and so is the guilt. It is not distinguishable.

Israel must have a purpose for the Empire.

Israel cannot afford its IDF, the Wall, the Settlements.

Noone wants Shekels. Landlords must be paid in $.

The message was clearly sent in the UN to all who
will listen.
Resistance is futile.

There will be no peace. At any given moment
for the rest of our lifetimes, there will be multiple
conflicts in mutating forms around the globe.
Violent conflict will dominate the headlines,
but cultural and economic struggles will be
steadier and ultimately more decisive. The de
facto role of the US armed forces will be to keep
the world safe for our economy and open to our
cultural assault. To those ends, we will do a fair
amount of killing. (Source: From "Parameters" "http://carlisle-www.army.mil" , Summer 1997, pp. 4-14: US Army War College)

Oops ... I guess we have a guideline violation? (sigh)