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Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:06 AM
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Iraqi President: U.S. Troops Should Stay
Edited on Tue Feb-01-05 07:07 AM by Mike Niendorff
Iraqi President: U.S. Troops Should Stay
AP, 2/1/05
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=1&u=/ap/20050201/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq


BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraq's president said Tuesday it would be "complete nonsense" to ask foreign troops to leave the country now, although some could depart by year's end.

...

"It's only complete nonsense to ask the troops to leave in this chaos and this vacuum of power," al-Yawer, a Sunni Arab, said.

He said foreign troops should leave only after Iraq's security forces are built up, the country's security situation has improved and some pockets of terrorists are eliminated.

...

Later Tuesday, Defense Minister Hazem Shaalan said Iraq would only ask U.S. and other forces to leave when the country's own troops were capable of taking on insurgents.

"We don't want to have foreign troops in our country, but at the same time we believe that these forces should stay for some time until we are able to control the borders and establish a new modern army and we have efficient intelligence," Shaalan told reporters. "At that time ... we'll ask them to leave."

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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:16 AM
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1. As long as US troops are on Iraqi soil...
...the insurgency will thrive and grow. That's the bottom line. I don't see where we're preventing violence at this point, only fueling it.

We need to get our troops out of Iraq NOW!:grr:
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:19 AM
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2. WOW what a SURPRISE!!! rotflmao!!!
I'm SHOCKED the bush-picked Iraqi "president" says US troops should stay, against the vast majority of Iraqis who want US troops out right now.

SHOCKED! Where'd all that DEMOCRACY go???!!

:wow:

rotflmao!!!
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Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:36 AM
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8. Yep, I thought DU would get a kick out of this one :)

I mean, who on earth would've predicted that the occupation government would endorse the continued presence of the occupiers? It's shocking, I say, shocking. :D


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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:49 AM
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22. NEVER woulda predicted that! Never EVER! I'm just FLOORED!
Heh.

And anyone in Iraq saying troops must remain, would be very well advised to not leave the Green Zone.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:58 AM
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23. This deserves a great big NO SHIT SHERLOCK
We've hit the fucking tar baby there isn't anyway to painlessly extract ourselves, see what happens when you don't listen. We're so fucked, fucked for generations to come.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:09 AM
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25. Your post sums things up about perfectly.
Uh huh.

Half of America, a ton of republicans, and the very vast majority of the entire world TOLD THEM SO.
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renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:14 AM
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28. Just as we've picked their next prime minister.
Watch if Chalabi becomes the next prime minister. It's another "coincidence" that he was also on Bush's payroll.

http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues.14744291

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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:19 AM
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3. So idiot boy has put us in the position of having a foreign leader
deciding when our own troops should leave a war zone.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:31 AM
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5. Only because idiot-boy has no intention of leaving Iraq. War-profiteering
still to be had.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:26 AM
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4. This guy was not elected by the people
He is as interim as Allawi.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:33 AM
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6. he was given a "cue card" and following orders....cashing his "checks"
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:33 AM
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7. Iraqi INTERIM Puppet President!
Edited on Tue Feb-01-05 07:34 AM by leftchick




... who thinks he is a fucking rock star.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:36 AM
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9. Yikes
A Fat Blackwell
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aikido15 Donating Member (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:40 AM
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13. Gross....I could have done without the pics
Looks like a neocon sheik
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:37 AM
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10. Vacuum of power?
I thought the Iraqis now had power?

Sounds really long term to me.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:40 AM
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12. vey long term. Think "generations"....
"People need to get realistic and think in terms of our presence being in Iraq for a generation or until democratic stability in the region is reached," Dewey Clarridge, the CIA (news - web sites)'s former chief of Arab operations (and Iran-contra point man), told the Sun.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2281&ncid=742&e=5&u=/thenation/20050118/cm_thenation/132132
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:02 AM
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15. I can't help but think that somewhre along the way
Edited on Tue Feb-01-05 08:03 AM by NYC
it will sink in that the cost of occupying (and pilfering oil from) Iraq is just too high.

I realize this is a case of "privatize the profits; socialize the costs", but still this has to have too high a price tag.

What will we do with those 14 U.S. bases in Iraq? Will the soldiers be able to leave the bases? Will anyone ever be able to steal the oil in a profitable manner? I think not.

Also, I pray the neocons will be out of office, and when they are, -- never mind. I just realized that no political party will want to give up those 14 bases, no matter what the cost.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:19 AM
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17. And a permanent military communications system in Iraq!
These towers are simply more targets. You have to remember who is getting rich in this foray into Iraq.

~snip~

Now comes a report in the New York Sun by Eli Lake revealing that the Pentagon (news - web sites) is building a permanent military communications system in Iraq, a necessary foundation for any lasting troop presence. The new network will comprise twelve communications towers throughout Iraq, linking Camp Victory in Baghdad to other existing (and future) bases across the country, eventually connecting with US bases in Qatar, the United Arab Emirates and Afghanistan (news - web sites).

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2281&ncid=742&e=5&u=/thenation/20050118/cm_thenation/132132

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aikido15 Donating Member (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:38 AM
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11. More propaganda via Bush
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:56 AM
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14. I do not know what to think, on this.
We should not have been in the country and now that we are I think we make it more of a killing field but still not sure if it would be better to leave today. Maybe start leaving?The trouble is Brener has passed all those laws to let the corp. take over the country so I think we will have to stay to back up those laws. There is also something in the laws that states the Iraq people can not get ride of them. It is a mess.Bush needs to pay off those corp and so I think we will stay in force.
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:16 AM
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16. For its one, two, three what are we fightin for,
I don't know and I don't give a damn, cause next stop is (fill in the blank).:bounce:
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ze_dscherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:26 AM
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18. "... and Bush created Democracy"
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renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:14 AM
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29. We should have statues of Bush erected everywhere.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:42 AM
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19. LOL. I suppose he would want them to stay. Who's protecting his
traitorous hiney?
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:43 AM
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20. Wasn't he advocating that American troops leave just a
few weeks ago? Or is my memory lettng me down?
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:44 AM
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21. Ignore the man behind the curtain... ignore the man behiind the curtain...
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Skypilot 18 Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:09 AM
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24. What a load in all of our pants
If you believe this line of crap then you live too close to a sewer treatment plant and can't see the turds through the the crap.

Iraq is a scam to fleece us out of even more of our already sky rocketing national debt. Oh Atlantis. Please flood the neo-cons's homes and let the rest of the world live in peace. These weirdos are the worst slime on the face of our already outstretched world.

But that's what you get when America's conscience takes an extended vacation and idiots rein supreme.

Skypilot 18

www.skypilotclub.com
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:44 AM
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26. woo-hoo, welcome Skypilot 18!
--why don't you tell us what you really think? ;)
:toast:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:06 AM
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27. But I thought the terrorists were defeated???
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