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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 01:50 PM
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Bush Says Syria Out of Step (2nd CNN/Syria story today)
The anti-Syria, PR engine is now running on all four cylinders. This crap is pathetic and so obvious--it makes me want to hurl a lung. If Bush and the neoConartists want to invade a country, they immediately wage a disinformation war against them. Of course, their willing accomplices in the media--are all too willing to blare their talking points.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/02/17/bush.ap/index.html

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush on Thursday said Syria is "out of step" with other nations in the Middle East and said the United States will work with other countries to pressure Damascus to remove its troops from Lebanon.

Bush said he did not know if Syria was involved in the assassination of former Lebanese prime minister Rafiq Hariri.

"I can't tell you yet," Bush said. "I don't know that. I'm going to withhold judgment until we know what the facts are."

Bush said he would consult with allies about Syria when he visits Europe next week, and said the United States supports an international investigation of Hariri's assassination.

The United States has withdrawn its ambassador to Syria, Margaret Scobey, and that "indicates that the relationship is not moving forward," the president said. He said Syria was "out of step with the progress being made in the greater Middle East."

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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 02:29 PM
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1. Archduke Ferdinand assassinated
Bush's outrage appears to rhyme with the forementioned pretext for war.
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BrendaStarr Donating Member (491 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 04:41 PM
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9. Hariri killing could very well have been Mossad too.
Not one bloody voice in corporate news will say it though.

Is the Bush administration having trouble passing its extremist agenda?

Well then it's time to start a war (it worked in 2003 when Bush faced a battle in Congress until they switched to war mode--the news media has to be "patriotic"--and Bush's ratings went up.

If you want to stop this you need to get out on mixed message boards where we are talking to more than just ourselves.

We have to fight the RNC talking points goons that fill up the message boards with disinformation.

The corporate news is never going to change much. It's corporate. As one writer suggest until we convince the other--the people who don't come to DU and other liberal boards of how they are playing the Bush administration's games.

Of course we still need DU for information and grounding, but being here is not activism and we see how little our LTEs have done in the last 4 years.

Take the publics eyes away from them and from the Rovians internet squads by getting what we know out to the mixed boards and chats all over the internet.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:24 PM
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14. He's going to Germany next week. Think he's going to be welcome?
n/t
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 07:24 PM
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19. I was thinking US black ops. n/t
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 03:18 PM
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2. do you feel the media drum beat to war...just a slow gentle thud right now
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:48 PM
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15. Reminds me of that Jackson Browne "Lives in the Balance" anti-war song.
"I've been waiting for something to happen...
for a day, or a week, or a year
with the blood in the ink of the headlines
and the sound of the crowd of my ear.
You might ask what it takes to remember
when you know that you've seen it before
where a government lies to a people
and a country is drifting to war

There are shawdows on the faces
of the men who send the guns
to the wars that are fought in places
where their interests runs.
On the radio talk shows and TV
you hear one thing again and again
how the U.S.A. stands for Freedom
as we come to the aid of a Friend.
But who are the ones that we call our Friends,
these governments killing their own.
Or the people who find they can take it no more
and they pick up a gun, or a brick or a stone.

And there are lives in the balance,
there are people under fire,
there are children on the cannons,
and there is blood on the Wire.

There's a shadow of the faces
of the men who fan the flames
of the wars that are fought in places
we can't even say their names.
They sell us the President the same way
they sell us our clothes and our cars.
They sell us everything from youth to religion
the same way they sell us our Wars.
I want to know who the men in the shadows are
I want to hear somebody asking them why
they can be counted on to tell us who are enemies are,
but they're never the ones to fight and to die.

And there are lives in the balance,
there are people under fire,
there are children on the cannons,
and there is blood on the Wire."

"LIVES IN THE BALANCE" (Jackson Browne)

(P.S. - It's even more amazing to listen to.)


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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 01:18 PM
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21. yes, it does...thanx zann, i'll be passing that along.
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pinerow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 03:33 PM
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3. I have a feeling that Syria will remove its' troops from
Lebanon, (although they are there at the "invitation" of the Lebanese government) at around the same time we withdraw our troops from Iraq.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 03:38 PM
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4. Lebanon occupation nothing compared with Iraq occupation!
Bush, look in the mirror and see the Nazi staring back at you.
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 04:01 PM
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5. "out of step"
Bush is out of step w/sanity.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 04:25 PM
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6. I can just see Bushitler
chomping at the bit on this one, with an ear to ear dumbass grin on his face. He's just dying to start Armegeddon and just looking for an excuse.
The trouble is all of us who disagree with his policies are in the line of fire if something really goes down:scared:

Sometimes I think about what used to be the best country in the world to live in is now the worst, and the most dangerous:nuke:

Anyone have a one way ticket out yet?
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LinuxInsurgent Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 04:33 PM
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7. hmmm...what other country is "out of step"...
wait...I can't put my finger on it...

Oh yes...the rogue State USA....

Except...they are "out of step" with the entire world, not just the Middle East.

Pot Calling Kettle Black alert!
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 04:49 PM
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11. No, No, No...the US is never "out of step"...
We have God on our side, remember??
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 04:35 PM
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8. How much is CNN getting paid by the WH? n/t
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:12 PM
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12. I think it's called lobbying
not cash. The media beat the war drums for Iraq, why would they not do it for Syria, Iran, - - - stocks go up for the war chest. Stocks are as high as during Clinton's day (nearly) and yet our economy is screwed. I don't understand the stock market but figure things don't balance out when it comes to "money in and money out" for our country's finances.

How do we fight another war without more troops and equipment? We don't have enough for the war at hand? Obviously many americans do not realize that, for sure other countries are wondering what is wrong with us. Course we all know our troops are only fodder for the idiot. Sick
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 04:48 PM
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10. Fuck you Bush, you lying sack of shit.
You lied and got us into one war...and if you get your way you will lie and get us into another one.

His handlers must be telling him that we are kicking ass in Iraq. "No worries, Mr. President -- our military can handle it."

Fuck all of them; lying war criminal shitbags.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:14 PM
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13. What facts? The one you are creating each and every day?
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inspectorgadget Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:52 PM
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16. Haha
And when we have this international investigation of Syria, and the UN comes up blank... Georgie will simply stand firm, get that glare in his eyes - and feed bullshit straight into every American's doggie bowl. And they'll cringe in fear, because - after all, Syria hates freedom and could possibly in another dimension have Nuclear Weapons, and we just protect our right to wage war without a cause. How long can I talk like this without making any sense before someone throws a rock at me?
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ausiedownunderground Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 06:10 PM
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17. Nobody dare mention "The Mossad". if you want to continue growing up!
Even Robert Fisk won't mention "The Mossad"!! With good reason! They are ruthless. If the "Mossad" want you dead you'll need the highest level of protection- probably close to Allawi protection. I don't think your average middle eastern journalist can afford that. Thats not to say that this was a "Mossad" hit. There are a lot of people who wanted this "Shady" character dead, and my Lebanese friends both Maronite and Muslim reckon he was "Shady" with a capital "S"!!!We have a huge number of Lebanese in Oz and they are heavily involved in our building game!
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 06:24 PM
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18. "progress"??? Does he mean the US soldiers killed today? Or the Iraqis
killed today?

What a lying stupid ignorant POS he is.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 09:59 PM
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20. "out of step," like the goose-step?
They keep pullin' left, man. To far left....
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