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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 11:52 PM
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Weather Service Memo Says Cuts Could Curtail Life-Saving Warnings
A National Weather Service official said Congress has cut the agency's budget so drastically that it will impair its ability to warn the public of all sorts of foul weather, which, in turn, "will" lead to "unwarranted loss of life."

The warning, which came in an internal memo, said the budget Congress approved late last year will require the agency to slice a number of operations and programs "critical" to its duties. "The reductions in the FY 05 budget for the National Weather Service (NWS) will have a critical impact on its vital life-saving mission," the memo said. "These impacts will be 'felt' throughout the nation."
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The National Weather Service Employees Organization, a union that released the memo to the news media, also declined to say who wrote it other than to say it came from the agency's "management" in Washington.

The imbroglio comes as Congress begins to debate the agency's -- and the rest of the federal government's -- budget for the next fiscal year. The NWS, which provides meteorological and oceanographic data and forecasts used across the country and around the globe, saw its operating budget shrink in fiscal 2005 by about $13 million, or 2 percent, to $617 million. The agency now faces a cumulative shortfall of $37 million, union and weather service officials said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A40320-2005Feb20.html?nav=rss_politics
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:00 AM
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1. Strike Two for the farmers.
Stupid. Really stupid.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:00 AM
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2. They'll have faith-based siren systems instead
And maybe some new wide-spectrum Prayer-Powered doppler radar.
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Sparky McGruff Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:07 AM
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3. Way to stick it to the red states!
I don't ever remember hearing any "weather alert" that wasn't a test in my 20 some odd years living on the west coast. This should hit Oklahoma, Kansas and Texas hard.

We should be moving to a newer, more advanced weather alert system, using cell phone networks, or HDTV bandwidth. A 21st century weather alert system should be able to tell YOU, not everybody in a 300 mile radius, that you are in harms way. And, it should be able to tell you specifically what to do, and how fast you need to do it. With the technology we have, this would be easy to implement, and could save many lives. Instead of advancing to new technology, though, we're disabling the antiquated warning system that we rely on. Another GOOD REPUBLICAN IDEA!
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 03:23 AM
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6. Yes, but idealistic :)
a system such as you propose would never be implemented by today's government. It would be auctioned off to private industry to sell as a "value added" subscription service, that only "a few" could afford.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 04:50 AM
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10. You know what
I used to make that argument on vouchers. We don't voucher out police protection or fire protection. But now I suspect you're right and I think I better be quiet for fear of giving them more "good ideas".
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 04:47 AM
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9. They don't want those pesky taxes
Fine, let 'em look out the back window and see if a twister's blowing. I do not feel sorry for these people.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:42 AM
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4. Life is cheap in BushAmerica. Move on! Nothing to see here. NT
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:42 AM
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5. ...Does Air Force One rely on such warnings? :) n/t
Edited on Mon Feb-21-05 01:42 AM by Lori Price CLG
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 04:10 AM
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7. This is all part of the * plan...
...to rid America of baby killers and gays--by ensuring that they will be carried off by giant twisters!

I pity the poor lesbians who live in Oklahoma!
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 04:36 AM
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8. The bu$h "administration"
Edited on Mon Feb-21-05 04:36 AM by Art_from_Ark
Penny foolish AND pound foolish
:argh:
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 08:27 AM
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11. Wow, and to think that I just started reading "Isaac's Storm" last night!
It's horrifying to see how helpless the fledgling weather trackers were back in 1900. The worst storm ever to hit the U.S. is just hours away, yet the day at dawn is beautiful there in Galveston. Isaac the meteorologist has been told that Cuba got soaked, but it's widely believed that the storm turned up towards the Atlantic coast. He keeps riding his horse and buggy down to the beach to time the tides. He is concerned that the tides are so slow, even with a north wind. (Remember the tides before the recent tsunami?) He knows it isn't a good sign, and he sends a wire to his boss. His boss at the national office won't let them issue warnings at state level, and they are never to use the word "tornado" lest panic ensue. The anemometer spins. In a matter of hours, between 8000-12000 people will die. Isaac will be blamed. Excerpt:

http://www.randomhouse.com/features/isaacsstorm/book/excerpt.html

Can't wait to get back to those good old days! Thanks, Georgie!

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Willy Lee Donating Member (925 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 10:26 AM
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14. Great book.
As you read it, you'll see horrifying shades of the direction * is taking us.
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:21 PM
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20. So far, it's a fantastic book for weather geeks like me! LOL
I've read a great deal *about* the book, visited websites about the storm, etc., but finally got the book for myself and can't put it down! This author makes it all so understandable -- I was concerned that it would be dry or too scientific. He writes well about the human side of the story, too. Amazing how it changed the history of Galveston forever. They blamed Isaac, and yes, Isaac believed that a huge storm could never demolish Galveston, and maybe he was a bit cocky; but he had so little information with which to predict anything! He lost many family members, too, that day. So sad.

As for GW Bush, yeah, he wants us to have as little info as possible about everything: science, drugs, sex, foreign policy, you name it. Then the Bushies fill in the ignorance gap with their own claptrap. That's their plan. NO THANKS. Sometimes I worry about my 5-year-old, but so far, here in a blue state, his teachers seem to lean to the liberal side of things! But if we ever sense a void somewhere, my husband and I will fill it. I won't have my child undereducated, period. Just this morning my husband was teaching him about Darwin, and he was quite fascinated! It occurred to me that this would probably be illegal in some places, right?
<sigh>

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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 10:28 AM
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15. Saw that on PBS
They were also crippled because the head of the National Weather Service wouldn't allow any communication with the dark heathens in Cuba. So when Cuba tried to warn the US that a hurricane was heading for Texas, the warning wasn't allowed through.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 10:44 AM
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17. I read that. They had no warning at all.
They played on the beach with no knowledge that there was a major hurricane fixin to trounce Galveston.
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 08:36 AM
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12. No worries...only a couple thousand people die each year
From weather related disasters.

They're expendible anyway...nothing to see here.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 10:19 AM
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13. kick
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 10:34 AM
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16. Totalitarian Nations like Amerika is transitioning to care little about
their citizens.

This seems just about right for a nation that is not yet a full-scale Tyranny, yet also not Free either.

Half-meaures, so to speak.

This makes perfect sense for Imperial Amerika.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 10:47 AM
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18. Just another way this administration is keeping us safe
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 10:47 AM
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19. I bought Interwarn software.
Works great unless they dismantle the radar and advisory system.
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