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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:08 PM
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U.S. BEGINS TO HAND OVER COMMAND TO IRAQI FORCES
http://www.menewsline.com/stories/2005/february/02_24_2.html

BAGHDAD -- The U.S. military has begun to transfer authority to Iraqi security forces.

Officials said the U.S.-led coalition has been quietly handing over the command to Iraq's military and security units in the four most violent provinces in the country. Fourteen of the 18 provinces have already been under Iraqi security control.

In the latest move, the U.S. military has transferred control to the Iraq Army in Baghdad. The U.S. Army's First Cavalry Division has handed over authority in several areas to Baghdad to the Iraq Army's 40th Brigade.

"We have reached a certain stage," Iraqi Brig. Gen. Jalil Khalaf said at the handover ceremony on Feb. 21. "The Americans are very accurate. They saw that we reached a certain stage in advanced training and in take over responsibilities."
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:09 PM
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1. Mission Re-accomplished!
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:11 PM
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2. LOL....
Great now the country is getting ready to plunge into chaos.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:17 PM
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28. "... getting ready ..."?
It's fucking chaos, has been, will be, and then it'll be the meanest goddamn theocracy the Middle East has.

Way to go, President Fuckface.

<saluting>
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:15 PM
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3. The source, menewsline, is a very right wing news source
It's connected to 'worldtribune.com', another right-wing site (and plenty biased). WorldTribune's president is Robert Morton, managing editor of the Moonie-financed Washington Times.

Just a head's up.
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SupormomFreeAtLast Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:16 PM
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4. Alrighty then! Bring 'em home!
Let's declare victory and bring our troops home.
:mad:
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:17 PM
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5. Yeah, we need those troops ...
for Iran. :eyes:
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 06:27 AM
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34. D'OH! ("Don't forget Iran.")
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:36 PM
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6. That's good KoolAid, I really like the grape. nt
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yinkaafrica Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 05:09 PM
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16. I like the Rootin' Tootin' Raspberry for me
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 05:26 PM
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21. Shouldn't you call the grape
"Patriotic Purple"?
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:41 PM
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7. "in the four most violent provinces in the country." We can't do it...so
give it to the untrained Iraqi forces to do it???

What a plan!

LOL!
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:51 PM
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13. That's the first thing that caught my eye, too.
They're new guys so break 'em in gently, eh? Kee-rist! :wtf:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 05:09 PM
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15. This whole thing is nothing but propaganda for the
six o'clock snooze....
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:43 PM
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8. Bwahahahaha!! What a pants-load!! Those 14 permanent bases....
...will NEVER fall under Iraqi control as long as the Fourth Reich occupies them. Additionally, no U. S. military unit will ever fall under the command of any Iraqi.

More smoke and mirrors from the self-proclaimed Masters of the Universe.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 05:24 PM
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20. Exactly
ChimpCo did not create the Iraqi Army to defend Iraq.

It created the Iraqi Army to suppress the Iraqi people on its behalf .

ChimpCo will never allow the Iraqi Army to acquire the military equipment needed to defend the country from outside threats (the reasons most countries have armies in the first place).

That's the real reason for the 14 "enduring" bases.

And...let us not forget that ChimpCo's CIA is creating an Iraqi Secret Police force with $3 billion of your tax money.

Why does a free and democratic Iraq need a CIA-run Secret Police service????

Is it to protect ChimpCo's petroleum interests and to suppress anti-US dissent????

Say it ain't so.

Free Iraq = US petroleum protectorate.

period.

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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:45 PM
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9. This is just more of Bushi#$ and pig rove
planted lies and half truths.

Their game hasn't changed, just the dates, some names and faces.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:47 PM
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10. Your army is in control now
unless of course they get in the way of something our army is doing.
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VirginiaDem Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:48 PM
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11. More evidence that there won't be a draft...
I know I'm in the minority around here but I don't think there will be a draft. There will be instead a declaration of victory by the Republicans, a phased pullout of the troops, and then a cold shoulder turned when the civil war proper heats up. The Bushies desperately want out but they are waiting for a chance to save face. Unfortunately, they only need to save enough face to keep the base from splitting. Bush is going to extricate himself from this man-made quagmire and fiddle while Baghdad burns.
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VirginiaDem Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:51 PM
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12. Just to clarify--we won't pull out entirely...
We'll keep enough troops there to man the bases and take potshots here and there against whoever they think are the bad guys as the civil war gets rolling but I believe they're getting out of the nation-building game.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:52 PM
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14. What nations have "we" built recently?
Invading, destroying & occupying seem to be the plan.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:39 PM
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31. Oh, you mean that isn't nation building?
Someone better tell the chimp....
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VirginiaDem Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 06:57 AM
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35. I should have given nation-building scare quotes...
He's "nation-building" in the worst sense.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 05:12 PM
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17. When the draft is enacted...sooner rather than later...I want to see...
...your response on the issue at that point in time.
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VirginiaDem Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 06:58 AM
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36. It's a deal. I'll need you to keep me honest though n/t
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yinkaafrica Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 05:12 PM
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18. I think we are not pulling out and there will be a draft
Once Bush steals a toy he never gives it back
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 05:14 PM
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19. it is nation destroying...
not nation building. If you think the USA is going to leave BILLIONS of dollars worth of Communications equipment along with those 14 bases for the Iraqis well, I got some land in FL to sell you...It will take more than a token amount of US military to defend all of those fancy expensive targets as well. Yes Virginia, there will be a draft.

~snip~

While the exact figure may change, suspicions of undisclosed US imperial plans--exemplified by permanent military bases--rightfully linger. Before the war, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz suggested moving US troops stationed in Saudi Arabia into Iraq. In October, a survey by the University of Maryland's Program on International Policy Attitudes found that two-thirds of respondents disapproved of a permanent military presence, even though more than half thought the US would build the bases anyway.

Now comes a report in the New York Sun by Eli Lake revealing that the Pentagon is building a permanent military communications system in Iraq, a necessary foundation for any lasting troop presence. The new network will comprise twelve communications towers throughout Iraq, linking Camp Victory in Baghdad to other existing (and future) bases across the country, eventually connecting with US bases in Qatar, the United Arab Emirates and Afghanistan.

"People need to get realistic and think in terms of our presence being in Iraq for a generation or until democratic stability in the region is reached," Dewey Clarridge, the CIA's former chief of Arab operations (and Iran-contra point man), told the Sun.

The fabled "exit strategy" may be not to exit. Thomas Donnelly, a defense specialist at the American Enterprise Institute, said the new communication system resembles those built in West Germany and the Balkans, places where American troops remain today. "The operational advantages of US bases in Iraq should be obvious for other power-projection missions in the region," Donnelly wrote in an AEI policy paper.

Next time the Bush Administration hints at withdrawing troops, keep these grand plans in mind.


http://www.thenation.com/blogs/outrage?bid=13&pid=2132
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:54 PM
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30. My thoughts exactly, I never thought they would leave which
is why an exit strategy wasn't important. Anyone who thinks this was about spreading freedom is delusional.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 05:31 PM
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24. This is just for the redeployment to Iran. Rumsfeld always says
that the Army has been tasked with a lot, and will be tasked with even more.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:35 PM
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29. Troops will stay there to guard the pipeline. Bet on it.
Just like Rummy undersetimated the number of troops for the occupation, he is probably doing the same for the "Pipeline Security" phase. The Iraqis have become very good at bombing the pipeline. It will become clear that it was an oil war after all as Iraq becomes more chaotic, and US forces do nothing to intervene. It was all about the oil from day one and it still is.

It will take at least as many troops as we have there now to secure oil profits for the Bush cronies. Don't expect a mass redeployment.
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VirginiaDem Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 07:04 AM
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37. I agree but if they can't protect the pipelines now...
they won't be able to protect them during a civil war. Imagine a pipeline running from North Carolina to D.C. and every square foot had to be guarded. We don't have enough troops now to protect the pipeline so by your logic we will see a draft because this is all about oil. My logic, contrary to the vast majority here, is that instead of being a near-fascist growing cabalistic death-star like threat, this administration is horribly--almost perfectly--incompetent. They want the oil and they want to protect the oil and they can't and they won't be able to because of the holy hell clusterfuck quagmire they have built almost from scratch in less than two years.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 05:29 PM
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22. Yeah, because they are getting ready to
invade Iran, that's why. This Administration is moving all too fast.

It's feeling really drafty here.:scared:
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 05:29 PM
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23. I take this to mean that we will soon stop all reporting from Iraq.
Then, we can all imagine that everything is peaceful and democratic, just like Afghanistan.

No news = no war.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:08 PM
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26. !
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 05:32 PM
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25. WAIT A MINUTE
I thought this is what the Repubs were all against Kerry for - because HE WOULD CUT & RUN in Iraq and not finish the job??? Wouldn't this be considered cutting & running?????
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:15 PM
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27. You guys handle the cities, and we'll take the oil fields
No problem.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 12:45 AM
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32. Yeah right.
As if.
Uh, huh.
I'm sure.
Whatever.
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 01:29 AM
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33. "Certain stage"="We don't want to be killed and we can't stop insurgents"
Until we remove the bases we set up and stop building others, we are still occupiers under a fake election.
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