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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:15 PM
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Writer who secretly taped Bush wants to give tapes to president
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/usbushtapes

WASHINGTON (AFP) - The US writer who secretly recorded telephone conversations with George W. Bush in the late 1990s wants to give the tapes to the US president, a US cable network said.


Doug Wead, a one-time spiritual adviser to Bush, cancelled an appearance on MSNBC's "Hardball" talk show and apologized for doing so in a letter to the network on Tuesday. The letter was posted on the program's website Wednesday.


"It seems the better part of wisdom for me to forgo television for a time," Wead wrote. "It would only add to the distraction I have caused to the president's important and historic work."

"I am asking my attorney to direct any future proceeds from the book to charity and to find the best way to vet these tapes and get them back to the president to whom they belong. History can wait," he wrote.

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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:17 PM
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1. I wonder what they threatened him with?
and I wonder if they'll make good on their promise not to kill him if he hands over the tapes?
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:25 PM
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9. This Guy Is Working Hand in Hand W/ Rove
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 04:25 PM by Beetwasher
I would think that would be obvious...

The tapes are in no way damaging to Bush, and are a blatant attempt to make him more likeable and moderate seeimg. "I won't kick the gays!" Yeah, right...

I mean, give me a break. You think this guy got anywhere near Bush in '98 with a taperecorder and no one knew about it? Puhleeze!
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:48 PM
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16. You are correct Sir!
Beetwasher is correct, don't waste time on the obvious.:thumbsup:
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 04:36 AM
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35. I agree, those tapes were so phony
I don't believe for a minute that they weren't totally scripted. Chimp's comments always show him in a positive light and he never admits to drug use, only "trying" it. That phony crap about setting an example for the children :puke: also the other excerpts about how great his pop was and how the worst punishment was knowing he disappointed poppy...OH PLEASE! :eyes:
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SoCalDemGrrl Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 01:27 AM
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32. Smells like Rove - an innocuous distraction from l'affair Gannon!!
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:17 PM
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2. BFEE
That's about all I can say about that... I think someone was paid a visit.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:19 PM
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3. Walt and Stand that is the same initial reaction for me too
Mr.Wead might be very worried about being history.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:19 PM
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5. I don't
I think it was all a game to begin with...theres nothing in those tapes that Hatfield didn't write about..it was a distraction to get Gannon off the front pages.......roves moved his chess piece.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:37 PM
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14. me too.
and this mea culpa is nauseating.

if he really had a conscience he would have handed them over to Bush before all this press garbage.

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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 05:56 PM
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22. Damn good point.
I'd have to say that I can see where you're coming from, as it had been something that I had wondered about myself. Entirely likely.
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 06:07 PM
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23. with a proper 'presidential assasination' plot
to uncover as a follow up.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:27 PM
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11. So the fellow wants to live-seems a reasonable decision to offer the tapes
:-)
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:19 PM
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4. History can wait," he wrote ....
as the gun was lowered from his temple and his wife and children were untied and the electrodes removed.
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SupormomFreeAtLast Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:20 PM
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6. Ahhh, Isn't That Special?
"It would only add to the distraction I have caused to the president's important and historic work."
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Stealther Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:20 PM
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7. I smell death threats.
(eom)
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:22 PM
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8. Funny, history didn't wait for the Linda Tripp Recordings
but history has a funny way of revising itself.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:26 PM
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10. They Got To Him. He Was Threatened.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 05:24 PM
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19. Threatened For Releasing Tapes On Command? Why Would They
threaten him for doing what he was told?
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:02 PM
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30. I say he was paid
Why not,they have unlimited funds. He said all profits would go to charity and he canceled his paid TV time.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 04:38 AM
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36. Yeah, it was meant to be a distraction
from the Gannon scandal, chimp wanted them released.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:29 PM
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:36 PM
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13. They were to distract from Gannon.
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 04:41 PM by LisaM
Luckily they were so lame that no one was distracted for more than a minute.

Did you get a load of that Wead guy? He looks like the Joker in the old Batman show.

On edit: read this crazy piece. http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3079173/
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:43 PM
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15. Doug Wead is a tool
a true believer

--immersed in the holy spirit , Amway , George Bush and Jim and Tammy Bakker


They want a piece of his ass in France over the Amway scam I hear
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:52 PM
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17. Oh great, so he's one of those?
No wonder he doesn't just leave and go to another country, he has nowhere to go. He'll just brown nose his way back in Bush's good graces, and maybe end up getting payola in the long run.

I'm sure he was threatened, but they probably held a carrot in front of his face as well.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 05:03 PM
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18. Old Cindy Sez WEAD Tapes "Speak Well" of Shrub
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3163631
The oldest-person-named-"Cindy" is a wingnut, but part of the cosmopolitan cocktail party set, meaning that she is pals with BOTH the PATAKIs AND the CUOMOs, and she is usually even-handed and often has Dem scoops. Here, however, she is either participating in a smear-the-messenger deal (WEAD), or else she is being satiric.

Plus, something else has stunk about this tapes thing from the get-go: It has seemed like another ROVE-type way of getting some damning tidbits about Shrub out there while innoculating him at the same time, then locking everything up for 50 years. After all, what wingnut supporter is going to lose respect for Shrub for his ridiculing Al GORE? And when he does his pharasaical schtick of not-admitting-for-the-children's-sake, the fundies wet their respective pants and panties in love.

Perhaps Old-Cindy went to press before Tweety got an e-mail from WEAD yesterday to the effect that he is donating all of the proceeds of the book to charity AND that he is turning over the tapes to Shrub. Tweety was crestfallen that WEAD turned down an appearance on Puffball more than that evidence was being locked away for 50 years.


*******QUOTE*******

http://www.nypost.com/gossip/cindy.htm

February 23, 2005 -- DOUG WEAD? The nice man who unleashed private telephone tapes he secretly made back when he was buddying with then Governor George W. Bush as the Gov was considering a White House run and was also considering that this friend was truly a friend? Although the contents speak well of the president, we've read Dubya's become a Burning Bush over it. And rightly so. With pals like Friend Wead, who needs enemies?

Friend Wead has stated he didn't actually intend to release these tapes willfully nor would he ever . . . ever . . . ever do it in any way to profit from his old friend.

Really? Friend Wead has also said editors audited these tapes purely solely and only to confirm stuff in Friend Wead's coming booky, which was also something never expected to ever happen so far as the president of the United States of America was concerned.

Really? Not exactly how the literary industry hears it. Around publishing water coolers it's being whispered and rewhispered that Friend Wead played them for his publisher as a marketing tool. Marketing for himself, that is. It was Friend Wead's financial ploy. The tapes are what got Friend Wead an extra few quid in his contract. Part of the money Friend Wead got for this book deal was as a direct result of knowing there existed these tapes for playing and replaying.

What is it with these in-close nobodies who have access to a Somebody's innermost secrets who then turn on those they swore they'd protect? JFK Jr.'s joined-at-the-hip buddy who wrote a book? Princess Diana's devoted piglet butler confidant who wrote a book?

Et tu, Wead?

********UNQUOTE*******

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DUgosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 05:30 PM
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20. Why bother, Rove engineered them in the first place. He has the script.
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Imalittleteapot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 05:35 PM
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21. This is a lot of bull.
A. Bush knew he was being taped.
B. The recordings were made more recently than claimed - IMO.
C. They are a useful tool to distract, not from the "President's important and historic work", but from his many screw ups. Funny how the Bush conversation timely release distracted the MSM from the 52 warnings and the Gannon/Guckert affair.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 06:30 PM
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25. I completely agree with Point B
I don't think the tapes were made in 1998, either. They seem more recent - mainly because the incidents discussed dovetail too nicely with other events. What caught my ear about the them were these two things:

1) His excuse for not wanting people to know about the pot smoking was exactly the same one he used (effectively) when his DUI record turned up at the 11th hour in 2000 (didn't want his kids to know, in that case)

2) He discussed how he wanted to "lead". This language is exactly like that he uses now (like his nauseating gibberish about getting together with "fellow leaders".) Do most potential presidential candidates talk that way? Not that I've ever heard. In fact, I don't remember it initially coming up in his campaigning either.

There are probably other instances like this - language and message that were polished during both campaigns suddenly appearing on these tapes.


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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 06:08 PM
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24. The President wishes to meet you at 2 am, in the middle of Lake
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 06:08 PM by DS1
Michigan. Please bring a 5 pound bag of cement, a bucket, ladle, and some comfy shoes.

/end Whitehouse Transmission
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mwdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 06:34 PM
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26. Rove's shill, check it out....
http://www.villagevoice.com/

Nobody threatened him, this is all a plant. Smoke & mirrors.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 06:35 PM
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27. What have here...
..is failure.... to communicate. Boy, you need to get your mind right.
Gimme them tapes.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:24 PM
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28. Those Tapes Should Go To a Grand Jury
Such a pathetic attempt at blackmail should be rewarded appropriately.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:46 PM
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29. I'n't that sweet?
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 01:00 AM
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31. I tend to agree, it is a big manufactured Bush religious psycho-drama
Probably for the religious base - Wead is tempted to betray the Saviour Bush but changes his mind and gives back the 40 pieces of silver. Then he begs forgiveness of the anointed one.

Life is becoming more and more like being trapped in a ten year old's fantasy (and not a very mature one at that).
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:04 AM
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33. fuck him.
and fuck the story he concocted.
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98geoduck Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:09 AM
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34. Jon Stewart said something in the lines of "now that i have the media
publicity for my book"....basically the author and book would go know where without the medias attention.
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