Putin sets up youth group to stop 'orange revolution'

Independent
By Andrew Osborn in Moscow
01 March 2005


A mysterious new Kremlin-backed youth organisation with the working title One of Us has been set up to ensure Russia does not fall victim to a Ukrainian-style velvet revolution. The group, Nashi, is being touted as the vanguard of a political party that could usurp the pro-Kremlin United Russia Party whose usefulness as a vehicle for the establishment has been called into question.

Nashi will face off against an alliance of anti-Kremlin youth groups and is designed to "reach maturity" well ahead of presidential elections in 2008. Its leaders, whose identities remain secret, are said to want to "get 300,000 people on to the streets to defend Russia" from the threats of "external governance", "orange revolution" and "American intrusion".

Significantly, it is said to be patronised by Vladislav Surkov, deputy head of Vladimir Putin's presidential administration, and a man often credited with wielding enormous power behind the scenes.

To its organisers' anger, Nashi's first Moscow congress, held in secret last Saturday, was infiltrated by the leader of the youth wing of the liberal party Yabloko, Ilya Yashin. Mr Yashin, a student, says he was forcibly ejected, had his face rubbed in the snow and was repeatedly kicked while on the ground.

http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/story.jsp?story=615711

He should have thought of this before he had the KGB poison Yuschenko with Dioxin.

Some ex-spooks I've met say that CIA knew way back in '63 that these are father and son, and that this was wiped from US Justice Department records in 1971.

Lay is 63 and Putin 53, so I find this a touch implausible...

allegedly both members of the Gelli family......whose scion Licio is in the slammer awaiting resumption of the "God's Banker" murder trial in Rome....

sounds plenty esoteric though... :tinfoilhat: :)

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He should have thought of this before he had the KGB poison Yuschenko with Dioxin.

Yeah, I wouldn't have used dioxin, alright, a sniper rifle is muchmore effective!
And would have spared a bullet for the neo-con wife!

than that. In my opinion it was the USA. In order to influence public opinion against the pro-Russian candidate. And it worked beautifully.

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turn the college Republicans into his own version of Hitler youth--whoops they already are!

the nazi examle?

"...Vasily Yakemenko, a leading Nashi ideologist, told The Independent: "We must understand what methods people who calls themselves 'democrats' use....
...But he conceded its formation was being "actively discussed". Its name has already been ridiculed by opponents who play on the phonetic similarity of Nashism with fascism. Mr Yashin said: "I wouldn't rule out clashes . We expect tumultuous times. The main task of the Nashists is to frighten us. They will form shock brigades ... to ensure people are afraid to march in the street under opposition banners."

In the Moscow Times, Masha Gessen, a well-known commentator, said the Nashi name was alarming. "An organisation that openly divides its own country into those who are 'us' and those who are 'them' is despicable."

sounds like saurove from where I'm sitting.

BushPutinism really is a single philosophy.

And I would be remiss if I didn't point out that much of the impetus and ideas come from the Imperial Family of Amerika.

And poor Mr. Yashin has now experienced what the Freepers do to people when the odds are 10-1 in their favor.

Good luck, you poor Russian Bastards. Enjoy your BushPutinist Russian version of Free Republic.

We here in the Enslaved Third World, in Imperial Amerika (the richest country in the Third World, in fact) your brothers and sisters under the Tyranny of Bushputinism, we have been dealing with the same thing multiplied by 50, for much longer.

One of us... One of us...

Not that it would surprise me...it's the kind of thing one would expect from the spirtual descendants of the Nazis.

Got a link which corroborates this?

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what does that color signify?

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Has Rev. Paisley been missionizing in Russia?

Reminds me of the College Republicans. Always stirring up shit on the home front against political opponents, but too afraid to put their money where their mouth is and enlist to truly support their beloved leader.

in another country's elections seems good to me. I am very fed up with US influence in Europe, especially on the new members of EU. Without the US the elections in Ukraine would have looked a little different, and I would like to read what a historian is going to write about it twenty years from now.

I certainly would`t want the US to finance ANY political group in Europe. Putin forsees massive US meddling and acts accordingly. Can't blame him, wish him luck.

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So you want Ukraine to be a Russian backyard? Russia can poison Ukraine's political leaders, start civil wars in Ukraine and otherwise influence the way of life of small puny "hohly" as Russians disgustingly call Ukrainians thinking they are backward or something.

What country are you from Neweurope to dictate which path Ukraine should choose? Mr. Nice Guy with sniper rifle for our President?

anybody's backyard I'd rather it be Russia's than the USA's :)

There is absolutely no proof that Russia poisoned anybody - to me from the first moment it has had the handwriting of the USA. Russia had nothing to gain, only to loose by this act.

Russia has not started a civil war in Ukraine.

The way of life of a whole lot of countries is being massively influenced by the USA and has been so for decades. So I'd go a little slower there.

What country I'm from doesn't matter.

I have not "dictated" anything - I have voiced an opinion.

Whether I'm Mr. or Mrs. or anything in between is none of your business.

How you can assume that only because I've said that I have understanding for Putins youth organization I'm laying in wait "with a sniper rifle for your president" is beyond me. For this I expect an apology.

Have I forgotten anything? Ah yes, I don't like your tone :)

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You don't know what you're talking about.

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You conveniently forget how many countries the USA has been treating as their "backyard". All different when another country does it, right? - And I still don't like that tone.

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colonies.

They finally have self-determination after being under the russian boot.

Just because they don't like or trust the stooges that Putin put up AGAINST THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF UKRAINIANS WISHES, doesn't mean he's in bunkerboy's lap. Sometimes the confluence of world events is not what some on this board are seeing.

Only time will tell, but I'm betting on the Ukrainians who finally have a say in their own affairs.