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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 08:54 PM
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U.S. implicates Syrian-based group in Israel attack-'Firm evidence' cited
We've got evidence, it's "firm" but we won't describe the evidence, except to say that it is based on "U.S. intelligence." Somehow I don't feel any more enlightened by this report. Or more comfortable about the veracity of evidence, since it's coming from "U.S. intelligence"-- the same place all our other "slam dunk" intelligence has come from.


U.S. official implicates Syrian-based group in Tel Aviv attack

'Firm evidence' cited on Palestinian Islamic Jihad's alleged role
From John King
CNN

Tuesday, March 1, 2005 Posted: 7:48 PM EST (0048 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN)
-- The United States has "firm evidence" that leaders of the Syrian-based Palestinian Islamic Jihad authorized and were "actively involved in planning" Friday's suicide bombing in Israel, a Bush administration official said Tuesday...The conclusion is likely to add to the pressure the White House already is placing on Syria because of what it considers that country's interference in Lebanon and Iraq.

A U.S. official in Washington said that Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was addressing the new information in London, where she was attending a conference on ways to help the Palestinian Authority. At that conference, Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas condemned Friday's bombing outside a Tel Aviv beachfront nightclub, which killed five people and injured at least 65 just three weeks into a fragile cease-fire.

<snip>

In Washington, the Bush administration official, reading from an internal administration communication, said the United States obtained "firm evidence that the bombing on the 25th of February was not only authorized by Palestinian Islamic Jihad leaders in Damascus but that PIJ leaders also were actively involved in planning." The official declined to describe the evidence, saying only that it was based on "U.S. intelligence."

Nor would the official say whether the administration had or was planning to share the information with the government of Syria; the White House has repeatedly accused Syria of allowing terrorist organizations to operate within its borders.

<snip>

The Palestinians, however, urged Israel not to let those who aim to undermine Middle East peace achieve that objective. Islamic Jihad has a presence in Syria and is considered to be under that country's patronage. Syria denied any link to the suicide bombing.

<snip>

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/03/01/syria.attack/index.html

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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 09:05 PM
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1. Ahahahahahahah!!!!!!!
Edited on Tue Mar-01-05 09:05 PM by RoyGBiv
Firm evidence!!!

From a US Intelligence source!

Oh, stop it! You're killing me!!!


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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 09:05 PM
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2. Is "firm evidence" anything like "bulletproof evidence"?
NYT, Sept. 27, 2002:

"Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said today that American intelligence had `bulletproof' evidence of links between al-Qaida and the government of President Saddam Hussein of Iraq."

http://rwor.org/a/1202/iraqlies2.htm

I have no idea if they have it right this time but their reputation proceeds them.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 09:15 PM
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3. well, George Tenet got a fancy medal from the president
for his "slam dunk" evidence on Iraqi WMD, much of it coming from the extremely reliable (NOT!!!!) Mr. Curveball. So really anything is possible.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 09:23 PM
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4. And the WMDs are right over there. Its a slam dunk n/t
Edited on Tue Mar-01-05 09:24 PM by NNN0LHI
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 09:24 PM
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5. "We've got evidence, it's 'firm' ..."
"Firm evidence," like the bogus evidence of weapons of mass destruction? Give me an fscking break.




"Prosperity is just around the corner." -- Herbert Hoover
"The economy has turned a corner." -- GW Bush

Herbert Hoover = GW Bush

Neither man cared about the Depression their economic policies created.

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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 09:30 PM
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6. And let's not forget Powell's "evidence" about WMDs before the UN:
'Every statement I make today is backed up by sources, solid sources. These are not assertions. What we're giving you are facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence.'
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torque Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 09:38 PM
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7. Then how did the Syrians get their hands on
the American military explosives used for the bombing? I contend that all great unnatural tragedies are the direct result of criminal government. Ask yourself, whom spreading global demockracy benefits the most?
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 09:50 PM
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11. wrong incident
this is the nightclub suicide bomber which Islamic Jihad already appears to have taken credit for, that was the big bomb in beirut which killed the former prime minister. The beirut bomb was obviously the work of syria as everyone except syria and the victims benefitted from it.
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Wrinkle_In_Time Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:06 PM
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15. Careful Warren...
The beirut bomb was obviously the work of syria as everyone except syria and the victims benefitted from it.

Irony doesn't always represent well in text form. I admit that I had to read that sentence twice before getting it. Maybe it was just me... However, :thumbsup: .
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 08:01 PM
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16. my last name ain't stupidity for no reason :-)
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 09:38 PM
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8. The way this should play out is
that we should share the "evidence" with someone we trust so that they can then also support the evidence or even (shock) corroborate it.

But, we don't trust anybody but Blair, who's credibility is less than zero already.

If only Chirac, or Schroeder, or even Pooty Poot could be trusted. Don't even think about Kofi. Who's the guy in Australia? Does he have any credibility?
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 09:40 PM
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9. Still waiting for the Jeff Gannon "firm evidence " joke.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 09:46 PM
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10. "We KNOW!" ..."There is NO DOUBT!"... "Damn good intell!"
Heh.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 09:53 PM
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12. Wonder what firm made that evidence...?
Wolf! It's the wolf!

Just wait to hear the indignation when their pronouncements of irrefutable proof are questioned.

How many Common-ists are there in the State Department, Mr. McCarthy?

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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 10:01 PM
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13. Same kind of "firm evidence" as "yellow cake" and WMDs.
LOL
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 06:56 PM
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14. Well OK, as long as it's based on U.S. Intelligence.
/-sarcasm
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 08:06 PM
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17. Syria, here comes King Chimpy.
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