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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 12:22 AM
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Italian Agent Killed by U.S. Had Negotiated Release of Previous Hostages
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBLLCQCX5E.html

Italian Agent Killed at U.S. Checkpoint in Baghdad Had Negotiated Release of Previous Hostages

ROME (AP) - Nicola Calipari was a veteran Italian secret service agent and practiced negotiator who had helped return two hostages kidnapped in Iraq home to their loved ones in Italy.


At least once before, Calipari reportedly came close to negotiating the release of yet another Italian hostage - the journalist Giuliana Sgrena - but left Baghdad empty-handed, according to the news agency ANSA.

It finally happened Friday, when Sgrena was handed over to Italian officials following a month of captivity in the hands of Iraqi insurgents. But the happy occasion quickly turned sour when the car taking Sgrena, Calipari and other agents to the Baghdad airport was fired upon at a U.S. checkpoint.

Calipari was killed as he threw his body across Sgrena.

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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 12:29 AM
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1. how emensly tragic ...
for everyone involved.

I feel for everyone including the soldiers.

THis did not have to happen. This war was and is unecessary. Not to mention illegal.

WASS
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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 12:40 AM
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2. Chaos Unleashed-Everyone's a Target
The "peace correspondent" as she is mostly referred to by her colleagues, Sgrena has been the quintessential anti-war activist, writer, and journalist throughout her long career. She was captured outside a mosque in Baghdad while waiting to interview Falluja refugees for a story on the impact of the raid on their lives. Like many female correspondents, Sgrena tended to focus on the effect of war on ordinary people rather than recount the battle stories.

<snip>

With so little information at hand, no one is saying that the Iraqi secret service is behind the latest kidnapping, but the nagging question as to who benefits from terrorising anti- occupation civilians persists.

Two recent developments are worth noting. Earlier in the year, Newsweek reported that the Pentagon is considering using the "Salvador Option" in reference to a counter-insurgency strategy of the 1980s which saw the CIA-train local secret forces to go after leftists insurgents and their sympathisers in the Central American country and which led to tens of thousands of deaths.

A few weeks ago, and of particular interest to Italy, researcher Daniele Ganser with the Centre for Security Studies at the Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich published a book on the NATO's Secret Armies after WWII. The research offers plenty of proof on how NATO and the secret services in various European countries collaborated in attacks on civilians that were blamed on left-wing groups. It was not till the early 1990s that a former Italian prime minister, Giulio Andreotti confirmed that the secret group, code- named Gladio, existed.

Ganser's book contains various documented confessions including this chilling statement by former Gladio member, a right-wing extremist who was convicted for his part in one fatal attack, "You had to attack civilians, people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple. They were supposed to force these people, the Italian public, to turn to the state to ask for greater security."
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2005/732/in2.htm





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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 08:15 AM
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15. Psychology that this admin is using on Americans...
Pulled from your link...

<snip>
"You had to attack civilians, people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple. They were supposed to force these people, the Italian public, to turn to the state to ask for greater security."

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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 10:12 AM
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24. i didnt see that snippet in the article....
if they edited it, which i guess is reasonable, but still.. makes ya wonder just what else gets edited along the way and in other veins.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 12:41 AM
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3. The Bush administration screws up EVERYTHING!!!
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 09:45 AM
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23. Read post #15. They are doing EXACTLY as planned. n/t
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 12:56 AM
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4. Berlusconi calls in U.S. ambassador after Italian shot dead in Iraq
http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=a7c2bba2a605f040



Berlusconi calls in U.S. ambassador after Italian shot dead in Iraq
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Big News Network.com Friday 4th March, 2005

The U.S. has launched an investigation while Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi has lashed out over an incident in Iraq on Friday.

A car carrying a former hostage, Italian journalist Giuliana Sgrena, and Italian intelligence officials, was driving to the Baghdad Airport when U.S. forces fired on the car, killing an intelligence agent, and wounding Sqrena.


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This is incredibly horrible!!!
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 02:04 AM
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7. Possible motive?
From your article:

Sgrena also asked her partner, Pierre Scolari, to show pictures she had taken of Iraqi children being hit by cluster bombs.

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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 08:00 AM
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11. Yes, possible motive.
As i posted in another thread, WHO BUT BUSH WOULD WANT TO HAVE SGRENA SILENCED? She was first silenced, disappeared, when she went to interview survivors of the fallujah massacre, and as your quote reports "she wanted to show pictures she had taken of iraqi children being hit by cluster bombs. So, who would want her silenced? The insurgents as the TBO reports? THAT HARDLY SEEMS CREDIBLE. WOULDN'T THE INSURGENTS WANT THE ENTIRE WORLD TO KNOW WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED IN FALLUJAH? and ... wouldn't the american intelligence, which BUSH CLAIMS has OSAMA BIN LADEN running and in hiding form HIS power, have known the sgrena had been freed, that the agent who had negotiated her freedom was travelling with her... and WHY would they fire on that car?

WHO AMONG US ARE GULLIBLE ENOUGH TO BELIEVE THAT BUSH ISN'T CAPABLE OF USING THAT OLD "HALT THE OLD CAR THERE--BUT THEY DIDN'T STOP SO I HAD TO FIRE" excuse for silencing their TRUE INTENDED TARGET(S).

This was no accident and the american excuse smells like the old stinking SOB (SON OF BARBARA'S) THAT BUSH IS.

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 08:10 AM
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13. Why does this remind me of Dana Mazen?
Tell me again? The US doesn't target anti-war journalists?

Giuliana is so lucky to still be alive. Now they won't be able to stop her from telling her story.

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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 08:47 AM
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18. that is, if she gets out alive from the US facility where they took her to
have her wound repaired...and I HOPE SHE DOES GET OUT ALIVE. AND I HOPE SHE DOES TELL HER STORY ... I will look for it on Democracy Now with Amy Goodman--she will probably be the only US news organization carrying her story.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 08:58 AM
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20. I hope she is on a plane to Italy...
she won't be safe until she is far away from amerikans.
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 08:49 AM
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19. I can't disagree
with any of the above, still there's one thing I find slightly odd: if the "insurgents" who kidnapped her were indeed working for the US, then why did they release her just to have her shot by US soldiers? They could of course have been a criminal group who received money from Allawi/CIA/whoever to kidnap her and then accepted a ransom from the Italians to free her. Just speculation, but it's not beyond the realm of the possible.

But then they could just as well have been a criminal group acting on their own, ie not "insurgents" but kidnapping westerners for monetary gain. Thus they wouldn't give a damn if she was anti-war or not. She could still have been targetted deliberately at the chekpoint. But I'm just as inclined to think that it was an accident until we here more about the circumstances.

It IS odd though, that the journalists (and others, like Margaret Hassan) who are kidnapped and targeted are usually strongly opposed to the war and dedicated to expose its effects on the civilian population. But then, most journalists who are not embedded and actually leave Hotel Palestine - thereby exposing themselves to kidnapping and killing - tend to be critical to the war, how can they not be when they see what's really going on.

It will be interesting to hear what she has to sayabout it all.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 01:03 AM
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5. Another hero is dead, and bush snores away at the Monkey Palace
I hope Italy has a mass demonstration about this outrage.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 08:01 AM
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12. WE SHOULD TOO HAVE A MASS DEMONSTRATION HERE IN THIS COUNTRY TO SHOW
BUSH THAT WE DON'T STAND FOR THE MISCALCULATION AND WRONG INTUITION OF OUR AMERICAN ARMY.
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Last Lemming Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 01:10 AM
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6. Ooops!
Did we do this accidently on purpose?
Had the car already gone through the check point?--who was targetted

what kind of mad house is this!???????
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 02:07 AM
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8. We've established that dead Italians are worth $2M each
so let's do the typical American thing and throw some cash their way:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/archive/topic/113638-1.html
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 02:08 AM
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9. We just keep winning those hearts and minds, don't we?
This stinks to high heaven!

We are supposed to believe that such skilled, experienced professionals (on a high-priority mission), just suddenly decided to RUN A U.S. ROADBLOCK?

These guys are real security PROS- if they were running a roadblock, it was because they had a damn good reason.
And if they WEREN'T, then our people are LYING about what happened.

Too bad for the US that some of them escaped alive.(inconveeeeenient!)
I can hardly wait to hear THEIR description of events!
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 02:19 AM
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10. Makes one wonder
if the occupying forces have a problem with communication. You would think the people at the checkpoint would be made aware of who the occupants of the car were.
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FourStarDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 08:13 AM
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14. I agree..there's something more to this story.
This incident is absolutely shameful--I don't know how such an "accident" could have occured. I hope there will be some investigative reports, from Europe, if not the US that will shed a little more light on hwat the hell happened.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 08:18 AM
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17. Italian papers are suggesting she was being held by "our" Iraqis
And that this was an intentional ambush by the US. This may get interesting?

Don

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 09:00 AM
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21. really?
I can't wait until she has recovered and writes of the American atrocities she has witnessed. Including her almost assasination.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 08:17 AM
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16. The US blew it big time


Berlusconi had the Colosseum in Rome lit up to welcome her home. This is how big a deal this lady is in Italy.




I can't wait to hear Bush and Rummie's responses to this incident.


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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 09:12 AM
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22. Here's her newspaper
http://www.ilmanifesto.it/


Many of her articles are linked.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 09:49 AM
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25. Recent related threads in LBN ...
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