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Isere Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:13 PM
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Lieberman wants Halliburton hearings
(09-23) 14:51 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) --
Democratic presidential candidate Joe Lieberman is seeking Senate hearings into Iraqi reconstruction contracts awarded to Vice President Dick Cheney's former company.

Lieberman, a senator from Connecticut, and Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., requested the hearings in a letter Tuesday to Governmental Affairs Committee Chair Susan Collins, R-Maine. It's unlikely the Republican leadership would agree to such a request.

Lieberman and Lautenberg said Kellogg, Brown & Root, a subsidiary of the Halliburton Corp., has received more than $2 billion for its work in Iraq, much of that from an oil infrastructure repair contract awarded through a no-bid process. .........."


Any amount of hammering at Halliburton is music to my ears.

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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:17 PM
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1. now see, that's better..
redeem himself in the Congress for a few years, then worry about the big chair in '08
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:23 PM
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2. It'd Be Nice If Hearings Rose Above Mere Formalities
like with Enron
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:26 PM
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3. Yeah. I remember that one
And since Holy Joe was one of the moving forces behind the 1998 legislation that gave accounting firms like Arthur Anderson a "get out of jail free card", it was a pretty pathetic performance.

Almost have to wonder if BushCo orchestrated Holy Joe asking for Halliburton hearings so he can hold his kangaroo court and do a few tsk tsks and then say "oh well".
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 09:20 AM
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32. Well, guys, HERE'S WHAT TO DO:
Call Susan Collins' office:

in Washignton (202) 224 - 2523

in Bangor, Maine (207) 945 - 0417

URGE her to investigate this FULLY! And YES, go ahead and express your wishes that this not be some once-over-lightly investigation like Enron was.

While you're at it, tell her to support Ted Kennedy because he's correct about the war being "a FRAUD MADE UP IN TEXAS!!!" Let her know!

Then, call your own reps and urge their support as well.
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FauxNewsBlues Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:27 PM
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4. I could say..
that Lieberman is being confused. He is attacking a republican, not a democrat. However, I am in a better mood since whistle ass has begun imploding.


Way to go Joe!

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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:33 PM
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5. Did Joe grow some Nads?


I kinda doubt it
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:33 PM
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6. Got Link?
Something's up. I think they really got the goods on something and they're setting things up...
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southern democrat Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:33 PM
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7. Yeah right,and there's people in hell wanting a fucking ice cube
Good luck with it Joe.
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Sliverofhope Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:39 PM
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8. Lieberman who? Why surely you don't mean Joe!
Because the Joe Lieberman I know would never think of doing anything ever that could possibly show distaste for the GOP's agenda!
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:40 PM
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9. As Lyndon Johnson used to say,
"Even a blind hog can find an acorn or two."
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PennyLane Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 11:42 PM
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27. Did he really say that?????
It sounds like him!:silly:
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 02:19 PM
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34. Yes. n/t
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:43 PM
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10. Why not Enron hearings, too?
?
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 09:23 AM
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33. Because Kenny boy Lay is bush's best 2 million dollar pal.
Lieberman is a DINO. He sold out a long time ago. Too late now Holy Joe !
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:51 PM
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11. If Jagoff Joe had actually DEBATED Cheny instead of sucking him off
during their "debate", Lieberman would be in his rightful place - in the White House backstabbing Al Gore.
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:04 PM
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14. I like that one.
Do you know this man?
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:18 PM
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15. Perhaps if Gore hadn't f*cked up so badly in that first debate
Lieberman wouldn't have been forced to "play nice" with Cheney during the VP debate.

Funny how all the "Lieberman is a Judas" ranters ignore this inconvenient fact.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:41 PM
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17. How did Gore fuck up???? He clearly won the debate.
Did you watch it or did you just swallow the mainstream media propaganda whole? Did he sigh too much when bush uttered his lies and couldn't answer any questions? Was his make-up too pink as bush uttered his liesand couldn't answer any questions?
How can you be on this site for so long and learn so little?
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 10:41 PM
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20. He became a laughing stock overnight
I listened to the debate on the radio. I thought Gore won the debate. And indeed, he probably won on points. But from the clips I saw on television (and I suspect that far more people watched the clips than watched the actual debates) Gore came off as an obnoxious, overbearing jerk. And clearly Gore's own campaign staff thought there was merit to the criticism. They even played Gore tapes of the SNL skit. And how else to do you explain Gore's sedate behavior during the second presidential debate? Everyone around here talks about the Lieberman-Cheney debate, but nobody ever mentions the second presidential debate, which was no less cordial.

Sorry, but just because YOU thought Gore did well in the debate doesn't change the fact that the overall impact on Gore, justified or not, was negative. Nor does it change the fact that the media response to the first debate shaped the Gore campaign's strategy for the VP debate and the next presidential debate. I just wish the Lieberman bashers around here would remove their blinders long enough to consider the VP debate within the context of the campaign. And frankly, I find all these "Lieberman is a backstabber" posts odious. Other than Gore himself, no politician worked harder to elect Gore than Lieberman did.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:51 PM
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18. oh, it was gores fault...
interesting.

peace
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 10:44 PM
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21. No less interesting than the "Lieberman is a backstabber" theory
And far more accurate. Gore's performance in the first debate shaped the campaign's strategy for the VP debate and the second presidential debate. That's obvious. Was Gore to blame for his performance in the first debate? Certainly. But so were the people on his debate prep team.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:00 PM
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12. cheney must be psyched ;-)
who would you want investigating if you were cheney :evilgrin:

jk: give'm HELL joe :bounce:

peace
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Flying_Pig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:01 AM
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28. On the mark BP. As with the Enron and 9/11 hearings, .....
it looks like someone wants a "controllable" patsy to get some hearings going. A quick sweep under the rug, delays (until after the election), and then exoneration.

Holy Joe is a PNAC'er, plain and simple. He's a tool of the PNAC/Likud/JINSA/JDL/AIPAC cabal, and will do exactly what they tell him to do, which is to deflect as much heat away from his compatriots as possible.

I do not want Joe Lieberman chairing any hearing on anything important to this nation. He's already proven he's willing to sell us out and betray this nation, and will do so again!

:grr:
!!!
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:01 PM
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13. The Repubs wouldn't agree to such a request? I wonder why
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 09:03 PM by rocknation
Aside from the Cheney connection, I mean.

From Baghdad Burning:

"...Major reconstruction contracts are being given to the huge companies, like Bechtel and Halliburton...These companies, in turn, employ the Iraqis...(by) ask(ing) for bids on specific projects. The Iraqi company with the lowest bid is selected to do the work. The Iraqi company gets *exactly* what it bid from the huge conglomerate, which is usually only a fraction of the original contract price. Hence, projects that should cost $1,000,000 end up costing $50,000,000.

"...Wouldn’t it be a) more economical and b) more profitable to the Iraqis to hand the work over directly to experienced Iraqi companies? Why not work directly...with the factories and companies...that produced everything from candy to steel girders? Why not work with the bridge, housing and building companies...that have been heading the reconstruction efforts ever since 1991?

"Some of the best engineers, scientists, architects and technicians are currently out of work because their companies have nothing to do and there are no funds to keep them functioning...(An Iraqi businessman) was told that he shouldn’t bother doing anything if he wasn’t known to (Kellog, Brown and Root)...if KBR didn’t approve of him, or recommend him, he needn’t bother with anything..."


rocknation


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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 11:40 PM
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25. Be it Republican or Democrat this is simply wrong
"It's unlikely the Republican leadership would agree to such a request."

We should ask why. This Halliburton mess is so terrible that it transcends party politics. The day is coming when things become so bad that the right wing can't even abide this stuff anymore and the best interests of this country are finally served.

However that may be when hell freezes over.

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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:27 PM
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16. way to go, Joe
Nicely done. Very late, yes, but I WILL TAKE IT AND SAY THANK YOU!
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:54 PM
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19. After seeing the last 60 minutes bit on Haliburton all I can say is
IT'S ABOUT FUCKING TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 11:00 PM
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22. But-but DUers told me he was "in on it"...
...and that Holy Joe, Al Gores running mate was "republican"- and that he "kisses Bush's ass"- Who to believe, who to believe!!!
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 11:20 PM
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23. Let's investigate Lieberman
Why has he so faithfully backed this war in Iraq? Why does he say Democrats don't deserve to win unless they endorse his peculiarly Republican worldview? What animates his oddly anti-American position of favoring media censorship? How could any self-respecting Democrat support him?

Sad little joyless dwarf...
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 11:35 PM
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24. Let;s investigate your post
<<Why has he so faithfully backed this war in Iraq?>>

Like most of his Democratic colleagues in the U.S. senate (including fellow presidential candidates Kerry and Edwards), Lieberman voted for the Iraq resolution. However, Lieberman has been highly critical of the Bush administration on its lack of a post-war strategy, and has consistently called for greater UN involvement in the rebuilding of Iraq.

<<Why does he say Democrats don't deserve to win unless they endorse his peculiarly Republican worldview?>>

There's nothing peculiar or Republican about Lieberman's world view. And here's the actual quote:

<<If we're for middle-class tax increases, if we send a message of weakness and ambivalence on defense, if we go back to big government spending when we're already so deeply in debt because of the Bush fiscal irresponsibility, if we're against trade for protectionism, which never created a job, we don't deserve to govern the country. We're not going to be able to meet the challenges that America faces today.>>

I think Bill Clinton would agree with this statement wholeheartedly.

<<What animates his oddly anti-American position of favoring media censorship?>>

When has it become "anti-American" to oppose the marketing of graphicaly violent adult-orinted entertainment to children? And how does supporting FCC restrictions in advertising R-rated entertainment on programs watched primarily by children constitute censorship?

<<How could any self-respecting Democrat support him?>>

How could any self-respecting Democrat NOT vote for Lieberman over Bush? Lieberman's the most moderate Democrat seeking the nomination, but he's still left-of-center, and would be a HUGE improvement over Bush.

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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 11:41 PM
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26. Darn it- you ruined our DEM bashing party!!!
How dare you debunk such ardent DEM bashing here at "Democratic" underground...
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Isere Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:23 AM
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29. Anti-american, now?
I knew Voltaire. Voltaire was a friend of mine. And you are no Voltaire.

What's with all the posts calling Lieberman anti-American? I thought that kind of discourse was confined to wingnut Republican circles. But, sadly, no. It infests and infects DU as well and it stinks just as badly.

Flying_Pig covers a lot of territory here : "Holy Joe is a PNAC'er, plain and simple. He's a tool of the PNAC/Likud/JINSA/JDL/AIPAC cabal, and will do exactly what they tell him to do, which is to deflect as much heat away from his compatriots as possible.
I do not want Joe Lieberman chairing any hearing on anything important to this nation. He's already proven he's willing to sell us out and betray this nation, and will do so again!"

"His compatriots" is just shorthand for Jews. And "betray his nation" is just another way of saying "traitor."

This is amazing discourse, folks! And it's right here on DU! Ain't we proud?



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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:43 AM
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30. Lieberman said the same things about Enron...
...and you know where THAT went.

- Sometimes politicians ASK for things they know they can't have simply to look 'tough' on corruption.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 09:10 AM
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31. My two cents.
More power to whoever goes after Halliburton. They are robbing us blind.
As to Gore and the debates. I voted for Gore and thought he would tear up Bush. He really lost the debates and made shrub look 1/2 intelligent. Lieberman has a wimp factor IMHO and never stood up for Gore when the vote count charade started. Gores real mistake was to distance himself from Clinton and not picking someone else as VP.
Lieberman finally turned me off completely when he was over kissing Sharon's behind and thinking that slaughtering Palestinians was a good thing.:9
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