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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:06 AM
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US tells India concerned over Iran pipeline: report
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp?xfile=data/subcontinent/2005/March/subcontinent_March291.xml§ion=subcontinent

NEW DELHI - The United States has reminded India about its concerns over Iran, as New Delhi prepares for talks on a $4 billion pipeline to bring Iranian natural gas to South Asia, a newspaper said on Thursday. US ambassador to New Delhi David Mulford told India’s Oil Minister Mani Shankar Aiyar that Washington faced serious difficulties with Iran because of its nuclear programme, and there appeared no immediate solution, the Indian Express said.

“Washington has officially conveyed to New Delhi that the Bush administration continues to have serious concerns on Tehran and can’t foresee how events there will shape up,” it said.

The newspaper said it was the first time the United States had formally conveyed its reservations about the long-running proposal to build the pipeline that will go through Pakistan.

There was no immediate comment from either the US embassy or the Indian government on the newspaper report.

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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:08 AM
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1. A warning -
"the Bush administration continues to have serious concerns on Tehran and can’t foresee how events there will shape up".

In other words, when we bomb Iran all to pieces and you lose your investment, don't say we didn't warn you.
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Niccolo_Macchiavelli Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:48 AM
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7. you beat me to it
exactly my reading as well
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:16 AM
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2. Does anyone have
"serious difficulties with *** because of its nuclear programme"?
Hint: it's Us

Does this sound like trying to get someone else to fight our godforsaken battles, or some other gimmick?

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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:22 AM
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3. nobody can plan for thier energy needs ----- only the US
ask chavez
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:23 AM
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4. Do you think the White House is concerned about Halliburton and Iran?
About $40 million worth of business in 2003, and a further $35 million in the pipeline, so to speak.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6982444/site/newsweek/page/3/
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:27 AM
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5. Translation: "We Plan On Stealing These Resources . .
Edited on Thu Mar-10-05 08:28 AM by loindelrio
in the near future. So unless you want to lose your investment like those dupes who cut deals with Saddam, you had better wait and deal with us once we own it."

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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:35 AM
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6. Is it just me
or are those "concerns" voiced by the US increasingly being ignored?
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Wright Patman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:56 AM
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8. Iran is about to open
a crude oil futures exchange competing with the New York Mercantile Exchange.

This is a far bigger threat to U.S. stability (read: collapse of the dollar as reserve currency) than the nuclear program, which can only be seen as a distant threat to Israel. This is the real reason they will be bombed.

And it is only a threat in the sense that Israel has this insane desire to possess 300 or so nuclear warheads as the monopoly regional WMD power.

We got used to the Soviet Union having nukes so it would behoove Israel to do the same with its neighbors. Either that or establish the entire Middle East as being free of weapons of mass destruction.

Does anyone in Israel want to sign the latter agreement? Didn't think so.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:02 PM
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9. kick to combine
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:02 PM
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10. U.S. tells India concerned over Iran pipeline
http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/redir.php?jid=de87c98878dcf940&cat=c08dd24cec417021

U.S. tells India concerned over Iran pipeline - report Thu. 10 Mar 2005



Reuters

NEW DELHI - The United States has reminded India about its concerns over Iran, as New Delhi prepares for talks on a $4 billion pipeline to bring Iranian natural gas to South Asia, a newspaper said on Thursday.

U.S. ambassador to New Delhi David Mulford told the Oil Minister Mani Shankar Aiyar that Washington faced serious difficulties with Iran because of its nuclear programme, and there appeared no immediate solution, the Indian Express said.

"Washington has officially conveyed to New Delhi that the Bush administration continues to have serious concerns on Tehran and can't foresee how events there will shape up," it said

more...

India don't use Iranian oil Ya gotta be kidding!!!
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:02 PM
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11. US wants no economic development in any third world countries.
It's really as simple as that. The rightists view development as a "zero-sum game" in which there is a winner and a loser. In reality, developing Iran and India will benefit the whole human race.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:02 PM
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18. So true! It's not "economic development" unless a handful of
American corporations benefit! How dare any country try any development programs without our corps.?
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Neverarepublican Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:02 PM
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12. Heads up India
Don't waste your money on a pipeline because the US is going to blow it up anyway
sometime in the near future.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:02 PM
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13. What the bushistas need is the Dale Carnegie Course--
"How to Win Friends and Influence People"--without bullying!



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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:02 PM
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15. They are still reading "The Prince"
eom
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shantipriya Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:02 PM
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14. India & Iran trade pact
Edited on Thu Mar-10-05 10:59 AM by shantipriya
India is trying to secure its energy needs by negotiating trade deals whereas the Bush admin. secures its energy needs by attacking and occupying other oil rich countries.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:02 PM
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16. So many fires to put out.....
so little time.

I'm watching Washington right now. I'm smiling. There seems to be a landslide of "must-do's" today.

Like a dumpster that just backed into the White House full of crises, oil contracts, alliances being formed, big-mouths accusing them of assassination plots, double-crosses, and a world standing up for itself.

It just seems like such a daunting task. They must be QUITE busy today. heh he
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:02 PM
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17. I knew it! I knew it! I knew it!!
If it isn't stamped with Halliburton, it's an evil endeavor and must be met with vitriolic rhetoric!
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:02 PM
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19. Translation: "We Plan On Stealing These Resources . .
in the near future. So unless you want to lose your investment like those dupes who cut deals with Saddam, you had better wait and deal with us once we own it."


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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:02 PM
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20. exactly, a warning that Iran as you know it may not be fulfilling its
commitments.

In the legal world, it's call Tortious Interference with Contracts.
But law don't matter to folks like Prof. Condi.
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Bhaisahab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:02 PM
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21. on a lighter note... amerika better not mess with india...
remember - all your data are belong to us :) (think outsourcing)

but in all seriousness, the bush cabal seems to be reposing enormous faith in the "sole superpower" myth. its high time that myth was busted... the world belongs to ALL of us, regardless of whom god chooses to bless.
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bloodyjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:33 PM
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22. This is probably less likely about India
than it is about further isolating Iran—emasculating Iran, basically.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 09:07 AM
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26. We are literally at war over oil.
I'm agog

It has already started.

For a good case of depression read:
http://www.copvcia.com/free/ww3/031005_globalcorp.shtml#0
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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:02 PM
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23. interesting on several levels
"The ambitious pipeline project was stalled for years, mainly because of differences between India and Pakistan, and concern in New Delhi that its energy supplies could be held hostage to Islamabad if tensions rose.

But the nuclear rivals have revived talks over the pipeline since they began a cautious peace process more than a year ago."

Gosh, what happens to the lone hyperpower and its arms merchants if peace and cooperation breaks out all over the world?

Nations looking to their own self interest and allowing their neighbors to do the same; buying and selling resources and products rather than trying to steal and conquer - what a concept.

I think the more of these sorts of deals the better; it makes it more difficult for the empire to decide where best to attack, and the longer it sits indecisively, the more the world finds empire is unnecessary, and will be more opposed to whatever actions empire might finally try to take.
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Bhaisahab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:37 PM
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24. you got that right ken
notwithstanding 50 years of hostility towards india, pakistan wants the gas pipeline project to fructify and succeed. india will pay pakistan close to $80 million annually as transit fees. that's a lot of money for us 3rd worlders.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_17-11-2004_pg5_1

peace pays, it ALWAYS does...
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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:54 PM
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25. peace pays
Edited on Thu Mar-10-05 01:55 PM by Kenneth ken
yep; unfortunately, we've spent the last 60+ years building a war-based imperial economy, so we're going to have a hard time getting in on all those peace profits.

:hi:

hey - nifty hobby you have by the way. :)

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