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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 07:30 AM
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BIG SCENE: Tonight's face-off may be Schwarzenegger's defining moment
Edited on Wed Sep-24-03 07:41 AM by jamesinca
BIG SCENE: Tonight's face-off may be Schwarzenegger's defining moment

Carla Marinucci, Chronicle Political Writer Wednesday, September 24, 2003

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Riverside -- Jelli Gauthier, a fund-raiser with the San Jacinto Valley Republican Women's Club, doesn't know Arnold Schwarzenegger personally, but she spent Saturday afternoon sporting a "Join Arnold" T-shirt and handing out flyers for his next rally.

She wants desperately to recall Democratic Gov. Gray Davis. But Gauthier -- one of the relatively few voters who immerse themselves in issues, party fund raising and political activism -- is getting more concerned about the GOP actor's chances.

"The debate is going to tell all," she says of the recall candidates' forum scheduled for today, the first Schwarzenegger will attend. "It'll kill him, or it will help him."

The reason for her assessment: Schwarzenegger "seems to keep saying the same things over and over again," she says. "He has to come up with something more outstanding."

<SNIP>

LOW EXPECTATIONS
"Ironically, maybe we're in the same situation as the first Bush versus Gore debate. Bush's people so deflated everyone's expectations, that if Bush could answer a question without picking his nose, he won," he said.

<SNIP>
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Recall debate on TV
6 p.m. - 7:30 p.m.

Live broadcasts:

-- CBS5, Channel 5; KGO, Channel 7; KRON, Channel 4; KNTV (NBC11).

-- Radio stations KCBS (740 AM), KGO (810 AM), KQED-FM (88.5 FM).

Taped delay broadcasts:

-- KQED, Channel 9, 11 p.m. today, 5:30 p.m. Saturday.

-- TVU, Channel 2, 11:30 p.m. today.
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the last paragraph of the article I like "low expectations". Do you think Rove will be able to pull that off again?

on edit, the link: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2003/09/24/MN189339.DTL
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 07:33 AM
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1. let's see, Jelli
Arnold is a grab-ass pig with no political experience who "seems to be saying the same thing over and over". WHY THE F*** ARE YOU CAMPAIGNING FOR HIM????? :puke:
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 07:41 AM
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2. One word...

I D I O T.

Sonds like she would vote for Bush for the same reason that a lot of people did: he'd make a great fish'n buddy.

::sigh::
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DK666 Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 10:19 AM
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7. LOL
Good One....
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Sideways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 11:53 AM
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11. Jelli And The San Jacinto Valley Republican Women's Club
Wow we have the name of a really BAD band. Shit can you imagine spending an afternoon with these women? I mean really how much about the last Nordstrom sale can a normal person endure?

In her heart I'm sure she understands Arnie because her quote "seems to be saying the same thing over and over" is probably what her husband says about her.

Fuckwittage.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 07:42 AM
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3. AS blew a HUGE hole in his battleship when he was on Oprah, so THIS one
will SINK his battleship.

The man just isn't leadership material. He needs to stick to movie characters. But it WILL be fun to watch!

VOTE NO ON THE RECALL!
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 09:21 AM
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4. On the Today show this morning ...
Katie and MWNO (media whore #1 - Tim Russert) were kind of making fun of the fact the this debate is the only one Arnold agreed to do. They also mentioned that because the questions are provided before hand it is hardly realistic. Russert said that the Governer of California (worlds 8th largest economy) will have unexpected situations coming through his door every day.

Russert even said that the debate seems to side step Democracy, and he was glad that he did not have to host the debate.

I'll bet Arnold looses ground in this debate. People have been waiting for him to answer a single question regarding what he is going to do to solve the states problem. This debate will keep the people waiting. He will no longer be the front running republican. Look for the republicans to ask him to back out so that a serious candidate can win. In the end it will not matter, because the recall does not look like a sure thing.

Davis is starting to gain ground (there is a balenced budget in place).

Cheers
Drifter
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 09:54 AM
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5. If Timmy "whoreboy" Russert is saying that this format is....
unfair then it must be really bad! Russert isn't being a "bitch" of the right on this one at least! On the other hand do you really want Arnie the Groper in charge of one of the world's largest economies??? Look at Bush, it's FRIGHTNING!!!!
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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 10:39 AM
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9. I think Ca is the 5th largest economy in the world
I am just being bitchy and picking at details.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 10:05 AM
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6. I am hoping for a good debate from Arianna
Ah-nold's going to need a shove off the track...
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DK666 Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 10:20 AM
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8. Arianna
Shes gonna nail him. Ohhh I cant wait...
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:04 PM
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12. No, Arianna is going to make a big ass out of herself. She'll be
grandstanding, horning in, butting in, interrupting and generally being VERY VERY rude.

I DO like the woman's positions on many things, but she IS NOT A POLITICIAN.

She should remain a pundit, and not pig's ear herself into a politician.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:04 PM
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13. She can say things Bustamante "can't."
But I also believe that Bustamante will be a stronger than expected presence. He's the one for the working class in this carnival.
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kclown Donating Member (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 10:55 AM
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10. Bill Maher said this morning on Imus
My question about Arnold is "What does he know and when
will he know it?
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