Lake City Man Dies After Shock With Taser Gun (FL)

POSTED: 5:40 pm EST March 11, 2005

A Lake City man died Friday while officers were attempting to take him into custody for an involuntary mental health evaluation at a local hospital, according to the Columbia County Sheriff's Office. <snip>

Rather that reacting as a normal victim of the stun gun, authorities said Woolfolk pulled the prongs from his skin. Once officers had him on the ground, Woolfolk became unresponsive and was transported to Shands Medical Center at Lake Shore. He was pronounced dead a short time later. <snip>

http://www.news4jax.com/news/4277664/detail.html

This has to be the 10th one in the last two weeks in Florida alone.

holy crap! he was somehow supposed to know NOT to pull the prongs out?

Seems like a normal reaction to me.









not.

Conductive smocks, shirts, pants, and shoes are used in the electronics industry to ground a person and keep static electricity from building up as they move around.

I wonder if wearing one would short out the prongs and lessen the juice flowing through the body.



Anyone own a personal taser and a grounding smock, and care to run a controlled test?

nor would Gonzales since he is all for torture

should not have been able to even get them out.

That is what a normal reaction is

Some people don't sometimes due to drugs sometime due to resistance

Sounds like he had a heart attack though... or his heart had a bad reaction hence why Chicago is removing them from the field

Of course the quetion is, take the less than lethal option (which does not mean it is never lethal) and all the officer has is a gun

and so are them billy clubs, at least less than them stun guns.

them non-lethal stun guns are killing people every week now :crazy:

peace

If an officer is in a situation where his life is in danger, he WILL go for his gun. That is what they are trained to do. There is no "use the taser instead of the gun" mentality; tasers are grouped into the same category as nightsticks and mace. If a situation warranted an officer using his gun, but he pulled out his nightstick, he would be a moron. The same would be true if an officer tried pulling out his Taser in that situation.

Removing Tasers from officers does not mean all they have left is their gun. Tasers are not meant to back up or compliment a firearm; they are meant to back up and compliment nightsticks, mace, and training on how to quickly take down a suspect with well-placed blows to certain areas of the body.

...every morning. <sarcasm>

Up around here, that's become the "get out of hot water free card" for the Fuzz.

Officer: "I felt my life was in danger"

Review Board: "Hey! No problem! Go back to work, no loss of pay, sorry for the inconveinience!"

Some day, some cops are gonna claim a "perp" was trying to run them down with his car so they emptied 30+ rounds into him. And everyone will rejoice that 2 fine civil Servants were saved by their skill.

Until somebody notices that all the bullet holes are in the BACK of the car...

Yeah, I know, "Next time you're in trouble, call a Hippy!"

...pepper spray? And they can no longer wrestle a person to the floor and manhandle them to put on the restaints?

Aren't all of those options still considered to be non-lethal?

You're right...lets continue to use a device that has been proven to cause death in a growing number of cases and pretend it's non-letal. Let's go ahead and allow cops to use that device on "suspects" as young as 8 years old and those confined to nursing homes. Best of all, let's continue to use it on folks that are ALREADY restrained and lying helpless on the ground because some cop wants to be a bad-ass.

Like father, like sons...the brutality against citizens is starting to reach a fever pitch

And let you thrash about until you're tired. Then they put the cuffs on.

the coming riots and protest that are about to hit this country.

for refusing to be a "normal victim of the stun gun".

prongs out? Clearly it was his fault!

Some civil liberties lawyer should take them to court and sue their asses off...imho

"Why" would be an interesting question to have an honest answer to.

"evaluation" and delivery of mental patients. I've listened in on aid calls where the cops are called in cases when a trained mental health professional should have been called in (a relative is in the fire department). The damned cops would make a sad situation -- violent. Community mental health -- in most places this in non-existent.

Some people need full time, long term hospitalization -- many of these people end up in jail.

Most cops are NOT trained how to handle (defuse a tense situation with psychotic or other types of mental health problems). Some cops know innately how to defuse a tense situation -- but in the last few weeks after hearing about children being tasered, I am beginning to think that these cops are few and far between.

Depending what this man's problem was -- he wouldn't reaction like a "normal" person.

There is such ignorance about mental health/illness by most people in the US. I'm probably singing to the choir. . . .

But I've see cops mismanage situations with people who really can't control what is happening in their minds . . .

This news story is just one more example of what is happening daily throughout the US.

In many jails -- there is a wing dedicated to people who are there mostly because they should be in a nut house and not a jail house.

Next story -- we'll read a report "the cops acted appropriately" -- when the cops should be fired.

or they just turned up the juice to high...

professional to handle that type of situation.

but i thought they were NON-LETHAL?

i know, i know, it was the victims fault, right?
he was not following orders or the ignorant fuck had some pre-existing condition, right?

peace

No explanation is given about how this could be significant. Could removing the prongs cause more harm to him?

Also, it doesn't say how officers got him to the ground:

"Once officers had him on the ground..."

Perhaps the way they got him to the ground contributed to his death.

Overall, this story is just too vague.

they're trying to make their case with this, that he DESERVED to be tazered because of the abnormal nature of his reaction. this is new ground and they need to be called on these cases before it's totally out of control.

extract the prongs. They were able to predict his abnormal reaction. Very interesting.